Friction happens when contractor cannot deliver as promised, or delay your time, or cannot agree on what you ask them to do, or irresponsible, or try to squeeze everything start to charge u $$ for every single thing.

So, when you stop/terminate your contractor, how to settle? Some contractors turn into gangsters and insist you pay them or let them finish the job despite your lost of confidence in them.

Police report

weikee..police got care for such matters?

Well...either you have strong back ground, or just pay and let it be history.
Polices can protect you for how long?
Refer this maybe could help you make decision

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1377224

Some kontractor act tough oni, shout at them & say 'i also know some ppl' *fierce expression* & they will stop & think. Just business, no one would wan to get involved in criminal act & mess up their lives. Police report, laminate it, hang it where yr kontraktor can see, that is if kontraktor is unreasonable & joda's way did not help.

i paid him off like 70% and say bye bye to him

WHere the stage payment was? Or pay extra?

if $$ can solve the problem, i would rather jus pay and avoid any fights.

zheilwane, how about if it's 5-10k or 10-20k. would you still pay?



didn't pay extra. but i didn't manage to minus off his faults, coz if i minus off he'll take peanuts.

From what I hear, if u have a disagreement with your current contractor and terminate their service, a new contractor would be unwilling to continue where your old contractor left off.

This is how contractors protect their business and their industry. Not sure how true this is though as I've never faced this situation personally.

5-10k i might, 20k is a big no no ahha. It depends how fierce the contractor is, if he has 3 - 4 guys with parang, even 100k u nd 2 pay them

adrianjc, perhaps u think a bit too much la..sure someone will continue..want to protect what le? they dont know each other oso. running business all they wanna do is earn some living, and all we owners want is u live up to ur promises and not give us unreasonable works, that's all.

zheilwane, if they got 3-4 parang want 100k i oso wont give them coz i oso don't have how to give?

so moral of the story from renovations is: don't buttock itchy suka-suka renovate, end up waste time, waste money, lots of headache and also tempers might fly. Better buy renovated unit if price ok, design can accept and if one really don't have so much cash, time and money to go play play

This post has been edited by @Adele: Sep 13 2011, 11:49 PM

This is call ROB

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Added on September 13, 2011, 11:54 pmThe world is small, I won't be surprise. Many contractor know each other.


Is all about managing and setting the correct expectation.. I learn something. If you want 10, you tell you contractor you need 12, if you luck he may give you 9.5.

This post has been edited by weikee: Sep 13 2011, 11:54 PM

Really
maybe the new contractor worry that
1. The house owner darn kwai lan until the previous contractor cabut...
2. The previous contractor gonna hentam him later.

hahaha

i think they are not so free to go call each other and say ..eh u kena terminate eh? they dont even ask me who's the previous person, so nobody cares la really.

phoenix69, if they dont take up this job, they take up other job, is there guarantee they wont meet even worse ppl...doubt that lo..

next time make agreement on % of partial payment before the work starts .

i have a friend working as consultant for house owners who want to renovate their houses to avoid disputes and help owners monitor progress and consult them how to keep their budget low

well i'm a interior designer and tis totally explain different between a design firm and contractor. If earlier u had attach with some id firm. this wont be happen. coz we have everything with copy and sign letter. Btw good luck to u.

coldman86, u seem to be gloating over other ppl's mistakes which is not so nice. imho, i dont think use id with letter and everything guarantee anything at all. my neighbour use id to do whole house cabinets 50k, already paid 20k, already 4 months also didnt finish. Just for cabinets! she also had to terminate, so it really depends on how responsible the contractor/id is. like my lawyer says, u can have 100 pages of legal paperwork , at the end of the day paper is paper, action is action.

by the way, this thread is for ppl to share their experiences on how to settle the disagreement..so far nobody has posted any real life events.

This post has been edited by @Adele: Sep 14 2011, 03:13 PM

for my experience don't pass the renovation job to any friends even them are contractor,we are believe them and give them job finally a lots of thing to headache ,fights . the reason is cost cannot cover .................who can accept this?????

This post has been edited by hhaf: Sep 14 2011, 03:37 PM

Sounds scary. I think it's better to get reputable and recommended contractor from friends. Those who has renovated your friend's house and u have seen it.

My experience nearly same, except i allowed him to con't, but he did a not so good job intentionally/unintentionally i duno. So i think u did it right, boot out unreliable kontraktor who won't listen to the BOSS & get someone who pleases the customer & not worry whether he will sabotage the property.

Contractor just fall into rough ppl categories and not necessarily gangster. Gangster nowadays also very smart, not just fight but money come into their mind first.

For worst, u just paid them as equal to their job done, I believe that is fair enough. If they have no rugi, they should leave.

2 bad experiences. Settled by acting firm and compromising a bit - 'OK, you just do this last thing properly, I am going to pay you this much less - then don't want to see you again'. Normally they will follow. Also want to cari makan what.

The lesson I learn from 3 times doing renovation - never give whole package at one go to one contractor. And never pay everything upfront (this should be common sense, but my colleague still did this a while ago b'cos contractor was relative. Cabut also in the end...)

Break up the package and do things bit by bit. It cost a bit more, need more time and more monitoring. But less heartache.
my last reno was to redo front proch, inside staircase and backyard extend.
Told the contractor phase 1 porch - if OK will also give him 2nd job. Then if still happy - will give him last job.
Happy with the results although paid 5% more.

Contractors normally go 'bad' halfway thru, after collecting more than 70%, because they want to move on to next job to make more money.

Personally, I wouldn't give in to the demand of the contractor. I had a case where the contractor was supposed to do up three floors of buildings for me. The schedule payment follows and suddenly there is a price increase in material (prior to Beijing 2008) they demand extra. They are already late in delivery and if they had delivered earlier according to schedule, then they would have made enough to cover the price increase. They went on strike and I got another group in to finish up the work for a renegotiated price. I don't mind paying extra but will not pay for people's faults and problems.

It is very furious if we need to pay extra money to cover/repair their SHIT (bad workmanship).....