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 Micro Four Thirds (m43) User Thread V4, Pana & Oly mirrorless system camera!

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post Jan 30 2012, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(vneefong @ Jan 30 2012, 02:43 AM)
hi... I'm thinking to get GX1 or EP-3, please suggest which one should i pick? and I think I will get 45mm f1.8 lens to shoot portrait (specially under low light). I don't have much budget to get 25mm f1.4.


Added on January 30, 2012, 2:44 ami've do some research and view some of the picture of them, what I feel is lumix picture color is a bit grey? and olympus can produce quite nice color.
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I've been thinking about this too for some time already. I would suggest you to get E-P3 if you dun wan post-processing, their JPEG looks nicer, but E-P3's sensor is old already compared to the latest GX1 sensor. icon_idea.gif I will get GX1 if it comes with X lens and lower price. brows.gif

Maybe this helps you to decide (Note: Steve is more biased towards E-P3) tongue.gif
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/12/29/p...s-and-high-iso/

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post Jan 30 2012, 10:33 AM

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go try the cam.
my bro in-law got the gx1 and i had a chance to place with it.
i dun like how u hv to share the dial for both shutter speed and aperature.
i stick with my ep2 for now
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Wuahaha @ Jan 30 2012, 08:21 AM)
I've been thinking about this too for some time already. I would suggest you to get E-P3 if you dun wan post-processing, their JPEG looks nicer, but E-P3's sensor is old already compared to the latest GX1 sensor. icon_idea.gif I will get GX1 if it comes with X lens and lower price. brows.gif

Maybe this helps you to decide (Note: Steve is more biased towards E-P3) tongue.gif
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/12/29/p...s-and-high-iso/
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I played a bit with the GX1 + 14-42 X since a friend bought one.

It seemed to tick most boxes for me... AF super fast... good ISO1600.... but I think Steve's right... somethings not right.. doesn't feel alluring like the GF1 did when it was new... can't really tell what's wrong.. the mojo is just not there.


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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jan 30 2012, 12:06 PM)
I played a bit with the GX1 + 14-42 X since a friend bought one.

It seemed to tick most boxes for me... AF super fast... good ISO1600.... but I think Steve's right... somethings not right.. doesn't feel alluring like the GF1 did when it was new... can't really tell what's wrong.. the mojo is just not there.
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i tested ep3 and 14-42 kit lens and gx1 with x -zoom lens. The color obviously ep3 is better. But what is bothering me is the AF speed when using the touch screen to take pic. The EP3 is like iphone touch screen..touch and it will zap ...but the GX1 is like an old touch screen technology..touch and it would not response most of the time..have to touch very hard. and the AF speed is slower when using the touch screen on the GX1. Other than that i notice there is a buffer issue with GX1...it lag cause the buffer not enough to store the files before it writes to the memory card...

the difference above is not obvious when you are just using GX1 but if you compare them side by side...the difference is very obvious...
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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jan 30 2012, 11:33 AM)
i tested ep3 and 14-42 kit lens and gx1 with x -zoom lens. The color obviously ep3 is better. But what is bothering me is the AF speed when using the touch screen to take pic. The EP3 is like iphone touch screen..touch and it will zap ...but the GX1 is like an old touch screen technology..touch and it would not response most of the time..have to touch very hard. and the AF speed is slower when using the touch screen on the GX1. Other than that i notice there is a buffer issue with GX1...it lag cause the buffer not enough to store the files before it writes to the memory card...

the difference above is not obvious when you are just using GX1 but if you compare them side by side...the difference is very obvious...
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Well... the PEN has a touchscreen and the Panny has a pokescreen. That's the difference tongue.gif

I damn like the +/-5EV exposure compensation on the GX1 (veli good for those super high contast shots) and the ISO1600 (check out the G3's RAW comparison in dpreview especially the watch).
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yeah i like GX1 sensor but other than that i prefer ep3.. and the new OM-D that is going to launch somewhere next month make the choice harder...

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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jan 30 2012, 12:02 PM)
yeah i like GX1 sensor but other than that i prefer ep3.. and the new OM-D that is going to launch somewhere next month make the choice harder...
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I'm more curious about the XZ-2 tongue.gif


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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jan 30 2012, 11:06 AM)
I played a bit with the GX1 + 14-42 X since a friend bought one.

It seemed to tick most boxes for me... AF super fast... good ISO1600.... but I think Steve's right... somethings not right.. doesn't feel alluring like the GF1 did when it was new... can't really tell what's wrong.. the mojo is just not there.
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Yeah, I feel the same, seems nothing much impressive except the new sensor. Didn't have chance to test X lens as not in M'sia yet sad.gif

QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jan 30 2012, 11:33 AM)
i tested ep3 and 14-42 kit lens and gx1 with x -zoom lens. The color obviously ep3 is better. But what is bothering me is the AF speed when using the touch screen to take pic. The EP3 is like iphone touch screen..touch and it will zap ...but the GX1 is like an old touch screen technology..touch and it would not response most of the time..have to touch very hard. and the AF speed is slower when using the touch screen on the GX1. Other than that i notice there is a buffer issue with GX1...it lag cause the buffer not enough to store the files before it writes to the memory card...

the difference above is not obvious when you are just using GX1 but if you compare them side by side...the difference is very obvious...
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E-P3's touch screen is capacitive and GX1's resistive slightly harder to press but lesser lag than E-P3. I'm used to Lumix menu, E-P3 looks a bit weird to me haha. blush.gif

QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jan 30 2012, 12:02 PM)
yeah i like GX1 sensor but other than that i prefer ep3.. and the new OM-D that is going to launch somewhere next month make the choice harder...
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If only Olympus builds a new camera based on the new sensor? hmm.gif
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Hi anyone knows how to check Panasonic GF 2 shutter count?
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post Jan 30 2012, 04:35 PM

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Arggghhhhhh
The price for ep3 like more expensive than new gx1. Why?...

Other then that the gx1 which come with 14mm I think I will pick twin lens but as a lot ppl was telling me the x lens are more worthable?
That really make me confuse!


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QUOTE(coconutzz @ Jan 30 2012, 03:53 PM)
Hi anyone knows how to check Panasonic GF 2 shutter count?
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I check by counting on the filenames generated, rough estimate.

Take my GF1 for example the folder in the SD card:

DCIM->100_PANA->P1000001.jpg <-- first file run till P1000999.jpg (meaning 999 count)
Then it creates another folder with name --> 101_PANA. Then it will be P1010001.jpg You get the idea. icon_idea.gif

So every folder has 999 files, not sure about video files though tongue.gif

QUOTE(vneefong @ Jan 30 2012, 04:35 PM)
Arggghhhhhh
The price for ep3 like more expensive than new gx1.  Why?...

Other then that the gx1 which come with 14mm I think I will pick twin lens but as a lot ppl was telling me the x lens are more worthable?
That really make me confuse!
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Buy with twin lens more worth for $$, X lens more worth if u like the size of it, usage is still the same la laugh.gif

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why is black always more expesnive than silver or white?
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QUOTE(yuman @ Jan 30 2012, 11:00 PM)
why is black always more expesnive than silver or white?
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not the same price>?
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(yuman @ Jan 30 2012, 11:04 PM)
not that i know of
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yawn.gif the price supposed to be the same, unless its limited edition
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(vneefong @ Jan 30 2012, 05:35 PM)
Arggghhhhhh
The price for ep3 like more expensive than new gx1.  Why?...

Other then that the gx1 which come with 14mm I think I will pick twin lens but as a lot ppl was telling me the x lens are more worthable?
That really make me confuse!
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lol where you check price la....the price for both ep3 and gx1 with x zoom lens is the same la....i mean in kl la..
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I think I browsed wrong.. i think its the diff between the memory card. oops
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:12 PM

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and yes there is a new m43 camera hail as god of m43 camera by olympus..code name om-d wait few more weeks will launch..expected price around rm3900+-
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:15 PM

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what the best micro43 camera for budget around RM2000+?
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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Jan 30 2012, 11:12 PM)
and yes there is a new m43 camera hail as god of m43 camera by olympus..code name om-d wait few more weeks will launch..expected price around rm3900+-
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OM-D ? Pro PEN right ? Will be launched on Feb 8th ... stay tune !!! Very priceyyyyyy !!! sweat.gif

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/01/17/o...d-february-8th/

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