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 Micro Four Thirds (m43) User Thread V4, Pana & Oly mirrorless system camera!

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post Nov 11 2011, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(paksiew @ Nov 11 2011, 06:14 PM)
Help, sifus recently upgraded from ep2 to ep3 found pic abit smudge... Why... Setting same with my ep2 also... Any master ep users facing this prob be4??
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try check your noise reduction and noise filter setting
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post Nov 12 2011, 08:45 AM

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for me i off all NR and NF. So far so good eventhough shoot in ISO 2000
din reli touch other setting..i off the warm filter as well since sometime it is reli annoying to c pics turn out quite yellowish warm
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post Nov 13 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Nov 12 2011, 10:12 PM)
which lens shall i go..

panasonic 20mm F1.7
Olympus 45mm F1.8

usage > street, portrait, landscape, travelling, walkaround,
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both are nice lens. if you like wider go 20mm or else 45mm..plus 20mm is nice for group shot as well wink.gif
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post Nov 13 2011, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:28 PM)
ya 45mm is too tight for walkaround but is good for portrait

that,s y i dilemma in choosing, both r good lens with fast aperture which will deliver creamy bokeh,

my point is hopefully 1 lens can do all stuff like portrait, walkaround, street etc.

I have close to person face if i use 20mm and shot in portrait. But good for street. Walkaround

if i using 45mm lens then i might face problem when shooting landscape all those wide view.

Quite dilemma now. Both lens price quite affordable.
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buy both then brows.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(LinTao @ Nov 13 2011, 08:18 PM)
Hey I just wanna ask something, cameras like gf3 and pen ep3 are m43 cameras right? So their lenses are called m43 lenses? Can gf3 lenses be used on ep3? And also if I wanna get an adapter for my canon lenses to a gf3/ep3 , do I just get an adapter for canon eos to m43 then can use on both cameras?
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correct for all ur question.

1) gf3 and ep3 is M4/3 and use m4/3 lenses
2) panasonic lens can be use in olympus body and vice versa.
3) yes canon lens to m4/3 need adapter and kenot auto focus


Added on November 14, 2011, 12:58 am
QUOTE(paksiew @ Nov 13 2011, 10:43 PM)
Dear Sifus ... Why I still cant get the feel of my EP3, I felt that the Pic IQ is not as good as EP2 ... It should be better then the EP2 in terms of IQ rite ??
Help ...

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By 45mm Ep3
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what's wrong with the picture? ;/

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post Nov 14 2011, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Nov 14 2011, 02:10 PM)
Owh I see, now I get the clearer picture, thanks for the explanation, sniper smile.gif

Now I've narrowed down further.. I just viewed the Lumix GX1, seems to be amazing with the optional tilt-shift Live View Finder, fast auto-focus(lost to Nikon 1's speed though), and the power zoom! However, it will be released in December, gotta wait for it.. An alternative would be the Lumix G3.

Then, I need to compare further with the Nikon D5100, I have great impressions of that camera. Later on, I will have to compare with the Canon EOS 600D & 60D too, looks awesome..

I've been using snapsort.com to compare, it helped me a lot.

Please advice me smile.gif
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r u sure GX1 speed lose to Nikon 1? coz i tested Nikon V1 and J1, not reli fast compare to my E-P3


Added on November 14, 2011, 7:58 pm
QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Nov 14 2011, 12:52 PM)
m43 price is almost equivalent to a DSLR because it's still new, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm still very new to this =/

Another problem of these devices over a DSLR is the lack of a viewfinder, I suppose an optical viewfinder is important for quality shots, is it? Imagine what happens if you try to take a photo under the sun where the LCD screen will be washed out by the ray.

I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons because I'm deciding to buy a camera by December. I've been a fan of Nikon, but if the m43 suits me better, I suppose I'll have to go for the Lumix..

The Nikon D5100 seems to be perfect but people keep telling me to get a compact camera so that I wouldn't regret it, gosh..
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got viewfinder or use live view is same sh*t nia. in d end is still depend ur eye to see it.
one of the advantage of live view is u can shoot high or low angle. E-P3 is using OLED screen, thus it wun wash out under the sun ray

Anyway EVIL = Mirrorless Camera

Mirrorless Camera = Sony NEX, Samsung NX, Olympus Pen, Lumix Gh, GF and GX. Nikon 1

Sony NEX, Samsung NX = CMOS Sensor (Same with entry level dslr sensor) where only 1.5/1.6x crop factor
Olympus, Panasonic = m4/3 where sensor are 2x crop factor
Nikon 1 = half size of m4/3 sensor size and 2.7X crop factor

So conclusion, EVIL = Sony NEX, Samsung NX, Olympus Pen, Lumix Gh, GF and GX. Nikon 1.
Just each of them had difference sensor and crop factor and lens mount.

dun get confuse smile.gif

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post Nov 15 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Nov 15 2011, 09:33 AM)
Thanks, will do it when I'm free wink.gif
Hmm, speed of focus. But the GX1 was a pre-production GX1, check out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJWzpA6Y__U

Haha, what you said was quite right, but I guess it's personal preference. A swivel EVF would be cool, therefore the Nikon D5100 is great XD

Ya, I know what EVIL cameras are, checked via wikipedia. I was only confused over EVIL n m43 in the past, now I get a clearer picture smile.gif

Can you tell me more about crop factor? The lesser the better?
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i'll check the video later when i m home, working now kenot stream youtube X)

yea swivel screen is d best too bad only EPL3 got, ep3 dun have ;/ but ep3 got d amazing touchscreen that i love alot.

Crop factor can read here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_factor
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post Nov 15 2011, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Nov 15 2011, 09:49 AM)
Haha, sure sure smile.gif

Lol, touchscreen is going a must have for you when you make your next purchase of camera huh?

Can you give me some feedback regarding touchscreens? I don't find it necessary but maybe you could convince me XD

I still don't get much about crop factor eventhough I've read that article in wiki  shocking.gif

I suppose a 1.3-2.0 is safe since DSLRs have crop factors at that range =x
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not reli a must but just some extra features coz it allow me choose focusing point and snap in the speed of light rather then press left and right 1 by 1 using button.

base on my own understanding, crop factor is all refer to 35mm format.

for eg dslr with 1.5x crop factor when mount on 18mm lens, it actually is 18mm X 1.5 = 27mm in 35mm format

for m4/3 crop factor is 2 where the kit lens 14mm actually is 14 X 2 = 28mm in 35mm format

for nikon 1 with 2.7x crop factor where 10mm kit lens = 27mm in 35mm format.

compact camera with 1/2.2" sensor usually have 5.5x factor

for dslr, they have their own lens for Full frame. Eg Nikon for DX (crop sensor) and FX (full frame = 35 mm eq) lens
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i'll spam some of mine tonight after blogging X)
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Hennessy Artistry anyone? wink.gif

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All shot taken by E-P3 and Kit lens. The only regret for me is no zoom lens and kenot move further front to take pics >,<
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post Nov 16 2011, 06:24 AM

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thanks everyone X)

setting most shoot at 42mm f5.6 with iso 1000 (some with iso 400). Using default Natural mode. Noise reduction and filter off and that "keep warm" i off it too. I din remove the noise at all, what i did just adjust abit the level of photo.

how i wish m43 got fast lens..waiting Pana X lens to release tat X)


Added on November 16, 2011, 6:45 am
QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Nov 15 2011, 09:33 AM)
Thanks, will do it when I'm free wink.gif
Hmm, speed of focus. But the GX1 was a pre-production GX1, check out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJWzpA6Y__U

Haha, what you said was quite right, but I guess it's personal preference. A swivel EVF would be cool, therefore the Nikon D5100 is great XD

Ya, I know what EVIL cameras are, checked via wikipedia. I was only confused over EVIL n m43 in the past, now I get a clearer picture smile.gif

Can you tell me more about crop factor? The lesser the better?
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just check the video. they was comparing auto focus in video LOL but for still frame GX1 still pawned Nikon 1.

To be honest i dun trust auto focus in video, i rather use manual focus tongue.gif

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QUOTE(d@odao @ Nov 16 2011, 07:55 AM)
Did u have the image stabilizer on ?...
All shot in jpeg ?...

Very nice low light photo...
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yea all shot with jpeg..i only shoot raw when come to model shooting

thanks biggrin.gif


Added on November 16, 2011, 11:52 pm
QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Nov 16 2011, 09:40 AM)
Hmm, that's quite convincing actually.. I thought the focus could be toggled by turning dial around the lens, isn't it?

I'll make touchscreen as optional for now, I suppose not many support touchscreen yet.. At least not the D5100 =x

I can't recall if the GX1 has a touchscreen, but the power zoom sure looks nice =x

By the way, great photos taken of the Hennesy Artistry, thumbs up! smile.gif
Wow, so the smaller the crop factor, the better. It can be concluded that way huh?

Now I'm really understanding what a crop factor is, thanks a lot highwind85.. Now I feel more light headed as I'm beginning to understand certain terms already XD
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yeap can b toggled with button but sometime need quick focusing n snap X) but i rarely use it though haha

basically yes smaller crop factor is better coz is nearer to 35mm format and u get wider coverage


Added on November 16, 2011, 11:54 pm
QUOTE(catfish @ Nov 16 2011, 10:08 AM)
jloi,

nice artistry pictures...

did you use flash?

I'm still finding hard to take night shots...
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thanks biggrin.gif

nop did not use flash for stage performances..usually dun need flash coz stage enuf light adi. I only use flash when go back to VIP zone and take pics with friends X)

depending which night shot u refer to, practice make perfect smile.gif


Added on November 16, 2011, 11:56 pm
QUOTE(nikilik @ Nov 16 2011, 03:37 PM)
Superb jloi... Jpeg or RAW?
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Jpeg only smile.gif


Added on November 17, 2011, 6:26 amOmai tempted to get Samyang 7.5mm X)

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post Nov 17 2011, 10:29 PM

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Guess what i had on my baby Zeekon? X)

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shot taken by Samsung NX200
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post Nov 18 2011, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(d@odao @ Nov 17 2011, 11:26 PM)
and, guess what I have on my e-p3?... tongue.gif

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ur grip is not ori grip X)

yes mine is leather skin applied rclxms.gif
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post Nov 18 2011, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(d@odao @ Nov 18 2011, 08:05 AM)
Bingo!...
Not ori as per package with camera but ori from Olympus as their official accessory...
Really like the bigger grip... It is soft feeling (like rubber)...

I like the skin ur applied to ur e-p3... Whr u got it?...
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Creezalird posted it few weeks ago. Here

http://aki-asahi.com/store/

They only took 5 days to reach smile.gif
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QUOTE(Bonjour Glow @ Nov 18 2011, 11:12 AM)
Hi,
Just got an Olympus EPM 1. Loving it so far from my predecessor ancient ixus 70 ^^
I'm just learning about the technicalities of photography so if anyone have any advice/site to recomend pls send them my way thanks^^ Sorry if i lack the technical jargon  sweat.gif

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Curve of his noe and the chair the same^^ pattern?

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Trying to use the chair legs as frame and position my self so the legs are in 1 line. maybe I want to crop his butt out  sweat.gif

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there was a lot of fence n plant so i took from low angle. lovely blue sky behind. Oh it's cambodian tradition. Tree no bear fruit, tie a rock on it  rclxm9.gif

pls let me know how i can improve. looking to learn street photog. so far I see mostly in B&W why?~ rclxub.gif 
Thank you!~
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HEY GLOWWWWWWWW~!!! biggrin.gif
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Made up my mind to get Olympus 40-150mm and Samyang 7.5mm X) hopefully can get by next year weee
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QUOTE(razkal @ Nov 22 2011, 11:27 PM)
Thank you. Haven't been here for a long time.

Nice to see that this thread is going so fast...

Some more low quality pictures from my E-P1 to keep this thread going..lol
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QUOTE(Bonjour Glow @ Nov 23 2011, 08:40 AM)
I'm also looking for nice bag. Right now using the olympus bag they gave when I bought my EPM1. black ad well boring. I want a bag that looks like a hand bag and not a camera bag. if that's possible. any suggestions in LYN?
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like this? >:3

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Olympus might release 12060mm f2.8-4 this christmas! Awesome! biggrin.gif

SOURCE : http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-new-olympus-m4...cember-12-60mm/

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