Gavin 
Noise cancelling? isnt the headset same as v2?
i think mechanical keycaps are universal
How many of you guys would like to buy it?

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Added on November 18, 2011, 2:13 pm
haha whos holding the cam?
i guessing bro AlexLai here   
which part squeaking? u mean the headband?

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Added on November 18, 2011, 2:14 pm
SteelSeries dont create wireless mouse

Which tourney eh? I would like to see the legendary Olin back in SASEA 

-.- So what happened to the main? Or changed IGN? SAGC clashes with my final exams luh

@Hellkeeper : How much would it usually cost? Whole set or just per-key?

what laptop? MacBookPro?
try the iphone adapter
ikari goes best with QcK+ unless you want a rougher gliding...then go with NP+
i asked them to bring the whole set...
they say they might be bringing some brand other than steelseries original keycap

Yeah me too. My finals just started this week so couldn't work as well.

Which model is your favourite?   
More pics of the SteelSeries Booth @  SteelSeries Malaysia Page

but that time i still dont have $ yet.
17 18 i get Tournament $ mar. so i buy lor.
so when still got PC Fair?

waffak, Kinzu V2 and Kinzu V2 Pro? what is the difference anyway, colors? sensor is the same one with Kova[+], Pixart PAW3305DK.

not surprised, since SS WoW mice also uses that sensor..according to this doc
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ao...YVE&w=100&h=650

The differences are in:

1. The switches. The kinzu v2 pro uses omron and the kinzu v2 will have TTC switches
2. The material apparently. The kinzu v2 pro only seems to come with a glossy shell, although I'm not so sure about the silver one. It looks like the intelli 1.1SE coating. Perhaps it's the same as on the sensei. The kinzu v2 has glossy shells as well, but also the classic shell like the kinzu v1.

They all use the same sensor.

Kana uses the same formfactor as Kinzu, but it is 4% bigger overall. That puts it (literally) right in the middle between Kinzu/Sensei in terms of size, for those of you familiar with those shapes. We have upgraded the feet and switches in Kana, also based on feedback from this forum.

same coating as Sensei? will it peel? i believe most users don't give a shit what switches they're using. No prediction, gooding..but need to see the price first I think it'll be priced around the same a DA? cause Kana will be around RM200.

I've place in the waiting line for the CE.... dunno can get it or not....
Kana is using Pixart..... me want more pictures!!!!!!!!   

The SteelSeries Kana is an optical, ambidextrous mouse designed for all three grip styles: palm, claw and swipe. The functionality, ergonomic button layout and size was perfected alongside SteelSeries' professional gaming teams, who also tested and validated the precision and power hidden in the Kana's modest exterior. Make no mistake; this mouse was built for consistency and accuracy even in professional tournament conditions. Designed by Gamers: SteelSeries Kana is available in two versions; the first named White1.1, while the second was selected by SteelSeries' Facebook community of more than 300,000 gamers and where 60,000 "Likes" determined the winning design, Black1.1.

Sensor
Frames per sec: 3600
Inches per sec: 130
CPI: 3200
Lift distance: 2mm / .08in

Physical:
Cable: 2m / 6.5ft, braided
Buttons: 6

The key features of the SteelSeries Kana are:

-Ambidextrous shape with ergonomic button layout
-Amazingly comfortable size, for all grips
-Tournament Grade Optical Sensor
-Illuminated scroll wheel
-SteelSeries Engine will allow complete configuration and control of your mouse and gameplay through:
- Drag & drop macros with timing control
- Unlimited number of profiles
- Heat map of button use (tracks button presses per session)
- 5 fully programmable buttons including mouse click macros and keyboard macros

kana should be gooding, cause it is based on ime 1.1 but me is a bigger fan of ime 3.0, the shape is very gooding for big hands mang.

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Added on December 15, 2011, 12:26 am
why, you want to re-sell it at RM750?

Some questions for the testers when they're available:
1. Does the Pixart sensor have any acceleration? Yes and no. It hits positive acceleration once it approaches the malfunction rate.
2. Does the sensor have any prediction or jitter? Prediction? Yes if you would like to call it that. It's lower than most early Avago based gaming sensors, but if you absolutely hate linear correction, you may get annoyed.
3. The spec list for the Kana and Kinzu state different tracking speeds, is this a typo or do they track differently? They have different variations of the same sensor. Kana was upgraded in terms of performance.
4. What kind of perfect control speeds were you getting with the Kinzu and Kana? Close to spec. 70~ and 135~ IPS. I wouldn't recommend the Kinzu v2 if you use a low sensitivity and swipe with your full arm.
5. As someone that loves the WMO but is getting frustrated with the low perfect control speed, would you use the Kinzu V2 over one? Yes and No. WMO has a higher max malfunction rate. Perfect control is slightly higher than the early intellimice bumped over 200hz.
6. I recently tried a IMO 1.1 and had problems with my ring finger hitting the right side button, do you experience the same problem with the Kana and/or can you turn off the side buttons? If you palm, you may accidentally hit mouse 5. Didn't experience any trouble clawing. Shape and size is almost identical to the WMO. Only thing "1.1" is the side buttons on each side.
7. What are your general opinions of each mouse and would you recommend them to avid WMO/1.1 fans? External build of the Kinzu v2 is like the original, but glossy. I didn't really care for the Kana's build, but I honestly don't have final samples to determine that. Internals aren't any thing special, but that's my opinion.
8. Is the Kinzu V2 Pro worth getting over the normal V2? Its up to you. Better mouse feet and Omron switches. My beta model used omron d2fc-f-7n on every switch, but that isn't likely on retail. The TTC 159 series is actually rated for 10m clicks according to their website.
9. How is the scroll wheel on both mice? What would you compare them to? Early beta samples used the same TTC encoder found in Kinzu v1. 2nd Kana sample was unmarked and felt slightly looser than the first.
10. How much force is required to use the middle mouse button, I use middle mouse on my WMO for PTT. Ehh. Medium-Heavy~. Wheel is the smallest on the Kinzu. Requires more pressure. Kana's is a little larger, less pressure.
11. Is it still possible to make Kinzuadders with the Kinzu V2? Still has a dual PCB main-daughter design, but I'm unsure if that will change with final retail models. the shell is also slightly modified for the newer PCB.


ATTN. I've been busy with School as I have finals this week. If I don't respond within a few hours I'm likely in class.

I can tell you right now that Avago's official lens won't work.

Thus I would like to make a correction. Kinzu v1 is required for kinzuadders unless you can modify the plastic "lens holder". The Pixart lens's Both 1.0x and 0.5x are smaller than Avago's.



Kana uses the -H variation of the PAW3305DK. (PAW3305DK-H) The sensor modified on the bottom to fit right into the 0.5x lens.

PS: I have pictures of the Kinzu v2, but they're not mine wink.gif


All mice have linear correction, although it's the degree your should be concerned about.

The Pixart sensor's aren't really that bad when it comes to this, but it may be annoying if you're used to an intellimouse or Avago 3668(NDC), 3888, 3090/9500 (linear correction set low)


Kinda wanted Derp to comment, but I guess he would like a confirmation from kimrom.

Minimum. Higher on certain pads. Granted Max CPI range is lower and interpolated on the 1600/3200 CPI settings.

I don't understand why 1600 CPI required interpolation though.

I can't give you a legitimate answer as I'm not aware of retail build quality and feel. The 2nd model I received used better ABS plastic, but I wasn't too impressed.

Removing the electrical tape over the sensor area caused the red LED light to shine through the shell. kinda tacky biggrin.gif
In terms of max IPS, it's good. I'm not really fond of the Pixart sensors though.

While it didn't bother me as much as Derp, there was a noticeable bug that would occur every so often where the cursor would randomly jump to the right. (I could feel it in game randomly) It's reproducible paint, but you have to try and wait until it kicks in. I'm not claiming anything, but it may be due to lower sensor FPS. (Older low FPS Agilent sensors used to skip fairly easily)


Is this fixed for retail? I don't know.

That was the question I had for Kim... In the OP he mentioned bugs that were fixed but my updated samples still have this bug.

If anyone wants to see an example then take a look at the bottom of my Mico review which is another mouse with a pixart sensor that shares the same bug. Only Pixart sensors do this.

I have been following this thread but I haven't bothered posting much because of the question above and the fact that Skylit's statements would mirror mine perfectly to the point where I would just be spamming the thread repeating the same things that have already been said.

kinzu was never meant to be a good mice either kana is overhyped and since it is a RM200+ mice, I would pick Xai over Kana.

Ikari Optical ftw!

I tipu you wan lah it is actually a topman advert, but looks somehow like SS, doesn't it?
now is RM249, PC Fair price is RM199.