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 US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter

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SUSsylar111
post Jun 7 2013, 12:16 PM

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DamoonCake, Can you tell me what is the average yield for Vanguard each year? When I check on yahoo it was 2.7%. What is the actual dividend yield can you educate me on that?
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post Jun 7 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 7 2013, 03:21 PM)
It depends on which one. Vanguard gots lots of funds. Different funds, different yield. For the one that you were chatting with Dreamer, VWELX (Wellington),
at its current price 37, it is yielding 2.69%.  Yahoo is correct.

Others...

VBTLX  = 2.57%
VTSAX  = 2.00%
VFWAX  = 3.21%
VTSAX  = 2%
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But that isn't fantastic right. Many stocks give better yield. So why would you buy this one.
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post Jun 7 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 7 2013, 03:38 PM)
It's diversification and less risky than just one stock. This type of ETF got a fund manager that manage it and their cost is low.
They tend to match or outperform the general market.

Yes, there are stocks that got better yield .. 5%, 6% and some of them even as high as 15%.. but they tend to be volatile
and if earnings drop, all divi are cut, price goes down at same time. Unless you're a good stock picker (and know the company business inside out),
this may be a less risky way to invest.  nod.gif
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I know. Of course 15% is too much. But 5-7 % is good. Even say 3-4%. Those kind of yields are no problem for companies with good fundamentals. Yields are important not just because of returns but because it proofs that the management is at least good enough to provide a net return. Correct me if I am wrong. 2% is below inflation rate I think. Banks over here can even give 3%.

And I disagree with the cost averaging strategy. You want to buy a stock that can give you the best value. You do not want to buy a stock that is already overvalued. Cost Averaging may apply if the stock price is going down and you feel that the stock price should be higher then what it should be but it would be suicide to buy a stock that is already high in price.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Jun 7 2013, 03:48 PM
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post Jun 7 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 7 2013, 03:53 PM)
It depends which country lah.. 2% is just right in US because it is better than Treasury (1%). US inflation also low.
But, in Malaysia, yeah 2% is consider low. Malaysia inter-bank loan rate also higher and as does inflation.

If you can find companies with good fundamentals with 4%-5% yield and can consistently deliver good earnings - that's good.
Business environment also change over time.. so don't just rely one type of company or one sector only when investing.
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You feel that Vanguard is outperforming the Dow Jones Market?
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post Jun 7 2013, 04:53 PM

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Just out of curiosity. Which trading platform are you guys using?How much does it cost per trade. Thanks

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