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Added on April 4, 2012, 2:34 am
Depends on what type of lung cancer you have.

If you get SCLC (small cell lung cancer), the most aggressive,
your life is measured in weeks (usually one month) without treatment,
and about 10 months with standard chemo of cisplatin plus etoposide.

Add in the monoclonal antibody, bevacizumab (Avastin), perhaps one
and a half years. Horrendous side effects - bleeding in the brain, stomach.

SCLC tends to happen mostly in smokers, but the majority of those who
get SCLC here are Chinese.

SCLC more commonly occurs in smokers according to the literature,
but the majority of cases here are Chinese, while the Malays are the
far heavier smokers.

Thus as I have postulated and posted in the thread below some time
ago, there is very likely some genetic deletion or mutation which is the
major etiology behind SCLC.

Without treatment, you die in ONE MONTH from diagnosis with SCLC.
Median survival is typically 10 months with first line chemo with
cistplatin plus etoposide. The 15-20 month prognosis is more with
NSCLC, as in the case of this lady from one of our Ipoh offices
with adenocarcinoma in 1996.

In my friend's case in this thread, Bill O'Rights ("TheFirstImmortal),
who had SCLC over three years ago, we managed to take him to
nearly two years with heavy supplementation of the latest cutting
edge supplements, which included high-dose resveratrol.

This was his 3,000 post, 100-odd page thread. He passed away
on May 10, 2009.
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/23038.../page__st__2421
And wouldn't you slam that brainless woman too, if she acted as if
she was playing Star Wars with YOUR LIFE  ?  I lost my cool when
she reacted, right after shooting away gleefully without any regard
to my request  " .... and how do you know that I didn't lower the
dosage  ? "

Easy for you to say that " I don't see the point .... " . It's not YOUR LIFE.
Put your body in front of the beam then (or even just stand outside the door,
as I challenged).  It's just Star Wars.

A couple of milliseconds of gamma rays, isn't it ?

The human being is a very complex organism, and you are a very
individualistic one too. Your body, or cells rather, are not going to listen
to, or abide by, the statistics and say, "oh, I will only mutate after 15 years
of, or 1,000, chest x-ray exposures".

If you are a bit unlucky, all it takes is a SINGLE shot to cause mutations
of p53, p21 and RAS in a SINGLE cell, override its Hayflick limit, and
start the ball rolling. That's it.

All the talk or literature in the world is not going to make a difference
when that  happens.

Cancer is just basically cell immortality.

More cancer developments. What about hereditary?

SINGAPORE: A study by the National Cancer Centre Singapore (NCCS) has shown that family history of breast cancer is a strong indicator of breast cancer risk among local women.

A history of at least one affected immediate relative (for example, a mother, daughter or sister) is twice as important for breast cancer risk in Singapore women relative to Western women.

The study also showed that the Gail Model - a standard model used in Western populations to predict individual risk of breast cancer - was inaccurate in the local population.

Dr Chay Wen Yee, one of the researchers said: "Our study showed that the Gail Model over-estimated the risk of breast cancer among local women. This shows that methods used to predict risk of breast cancer in the West do not provide accurate estimates in our setting."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/sin...1193963/1/.html

Lung cancer also perhaps?

My family is good at it.

Four. At least two more to go. I never knew that Tung Shin's Shimadzu
machine was firing at 100 kilovolts, even if for just 2 milliseconds. . That's
quite a shot of gamma rays.

I think I'll go over to Damai Service Hospital next round.
Yes, I know those are blind searches. They were meant to be, largely
to show the countless studies showing the association between tumor
suppressor/oncogenes and cancer, particularly p21, since Tjinn maintained
that there was no link whatsoever between this gene and cancer.
The searches were than progressively narrowed down from "cancer" to "lung cancer"
and finally "SCLC", to show the association between these genes and SCLC. Maybe
I should have searched with them in parathenses, since that would reduce the number
of hits further.

The final two studies and the French p53 site were meant to show the possibility
of low-dose x-rays causing mutations in these genes, particularly p53, thus
predisposing us to cancer, including that of the lung, since Tjinn noted that the "patient's
fate has already been determined from birth".

http://p53.free.fr/Database/p53_cancer/p53_Lung.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8640750/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18271921
I am familiar with p53, p21 and ras - I come from this site and their forum below.

http://www.imminst.org

http://www.longecity.org/forum/
Around half of the posts so far in these two threads are mine.
(I am not in the medical field, not do I even have any degree. I'm
just an ordinarly lowly-paid penpushing layman.)

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/25952-cancer-knowledge/

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/23093...imers-research/
I joined Bill's extensively long thread a bit late in his advanced SCLC, though.

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/23038...ighting-cancer/
SCLC is a very complex cancer with many genetic deletions/mutations (the Immortality
Institute's members are far more familiar with this than me) as the disease progresses,
which is why it relapses so rapidly after an initial good response to chemo.
I am also familiar with some of the other genetic/signalling pathways in cancer -
Bax, Bcl2, caspase 3, PKA, PKC, AKT, PI3K, PPAR gamma, CXCR4, CCR5, etc.
This was the main reason why Bill took high dose resveratrol. Unfortunately, we
didn't realize at that time that resveratrol's bioavailability, at least in humans, is
very poor and disappointing against cancer in vivo (seems to work very well in
dog cancer).

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/23038.../page__st__2580

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/23038...230#entry283230
I mentioned the Chinese herbs, Scutellaria baicalensis and barbata, to him right from
the start when I joined his thread, but somehow it didn't really get thru him, I guess
mainly because he was unfamiliar with Chinese cancer-fighting herbs.
I believe that one of the main reasons why cancer patients deteriorate rapidly
when the cancer relapses, with the cancer refractory to second or third-line
chemotherapy regimens, is because the first-line chemo has cleaved their
p53 beyond repair, leaving the patient virtually defenceless. The cancer comes
back and "steamrolls" over them. Our first-line genetic defence against cancer
is, I believe, p53.

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Added on April 10, 2012, 4:22 am

" For B-cell ALL, even one X-ray was enough to moderately increase the risk. "

http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2010/10/04/x-ray/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-...isk-cancer.html

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles...y-part-one.aspx
 
X-Rays, Cancer and Heart Disease
" The inability of human cells, to repair correctly every type of radiation-induced
chromosomal damage, has been demonstrated in nuclear workers (who received
their extra low-dose radiation at minimal dose-rates) and in numerous studies of
x-ray-irradiated human cells at low doses. "

" Besides demonstrating non-repair or imperfect repair, such studies have established
that x-rays have an extremely low doubling-dose for structural chromosomal mutations. "

" X-rays are capable of causing virtually every known kind of mutation — from the
very common types to the very complex types, from deletions of single nucleotides, to
chromosomal deletions of every size and position, and chromosomal rearrangements
of every type. When such mutations are not cell-lethal, they endure and accumulate
with each additional exposure to x-rays or other ionizing radiation. "
\
" Ionizing radiation is firmly established by epidemiologic evidence as a
proven cause of almost every major type of human cancer. Some of the
strongest evidence comes from the study of medical patients exposed to
x-rays — even at minimal dose-levels per exposure. "
 
http://www.drheise.com/xrays.htm
John Gofman's book -

Radiation from Medical Procedures in the Pathogenesis of
Cancer and Ischemic Heart Disease :
Dose-Response Studies with Physicians per 100,000 Population

http://www.ratical.org/radiation/CNR/RMP/index.html

http://www.ratical.org/radiation/CNR/RMP/chp1F.html