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post Sep 1 2011, 08:51 PM

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My colleague driving a 2010 city.
I and another colleague driving an Inspira.
The 1 driving d city told us, if only inspira came out earlier, he would have get tat instead. thats just us :-)
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post Sep 1 2011, 08:57 PM

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Personal experience. quite close with my fren driving d city.

Space - inspira. much more spacious.
Stable - my fren (city owner) claim its floaty a bit at 120km/h.
FC - almost the same. city auto. inspira manual thou.
look and feel - city looks more classy a bit inside.
NVH - inspira much better.

just my 2 cents
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post Sep 1 2011, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 1 2011, 08:55 PM)
this is my 1st option already.. hehehe
btw, 2nd value of inspira still high or drop kaw2 like other proton?

that is my main concern


Added on September 1, 2011, 8:56 pm

is it inspira driving comfort like City?
how about the handling.. why inspira still using hydraulic?  sweat.gif
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To be honest. ride wise, even the city owner agree inspira better. City fitted with torsion beam, u cant really expect much comfort with that. hydraulic u will get more road feel if u are a petrol head.
I doubt city handling is good (stock). Inspira quite good but have quite a lot body roll due to thick tires. but ita good if u are lookng for comfort

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post Sep 1 2011, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Happy Jolly @ Sep 1 2011, 09:10 PM)
dude, I am not a Myvi supporter, but lets take some time to walk back memory lane k?

Before Myvi came out, could u tell me what cars Proton was producing? Yes, they were producing shitty looking Sagas and Wiras. Even my team leader was so pissed off with this. The shape still from 1980.

So if Myvi did not come out, Proton would have continued with their business model and there would be no Saga BLM, Persona and Inspira. Take some time to think about it man. Is this the type of company u want to support. Oh yeah, and I wonder how much their directors get paid. Bet enough to laugh at all the 'sui yee' in Malaysia.
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Good man u are!
But do rwmember sometimes ppl buy car that they can afford. not becoz they wanted to support. to me value for money is more worth oe support or not. just my no brainer head
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post Sep 1 2011, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Happy Jolly @ Sep 1 2011, 09:17 PM)
yes I understand that. U must understand that it is because of Proton that ALL cars are expensive now. Even because of this, I have to drive a Proton. Not that I like it, but because of unfairness.

Some may say that Honda and Toyota will still cost that much even if Proton is not that expensive. I beg to differ. Malaysia has a very high car buying rate. Any automobile will silly to miss this opportunity. Competition will drive the price of Honda and Toyota down.

let's just take a look at KFC and McD. Due to competition, their lunch prices is nearly the same as a pack of chap fun. Who says foreign things cannot be cheap?
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maybe just me. fact is already fact. car expensive due to proton. but i have a choice now to choose to buy a more value car. or pay more for less. ur call... For me. more value is better

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post Sep 1 2011, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Happy Jolly @ Sep 1 2011, 09:21 PM)
Perodua know that since Proton has made their price that high, so they follow lor. It's like the McD lunch strategy. They know that a packet of mixed rice is around Rm5 so they made their price around that region too.
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Becoz they 2 offer u the same price but quality so so. so u opt for carls junior even though wallet only got Rm15. :-p
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post Sep 1 2011, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(cle900706 @ Sep 1 2011, 09:34 PM)
I think we should not support proton and get mybee eventhough it has problem.
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post Sep 2 2011, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 2 2011, 11:24 AM)
hahaha.. i do a wrong calculation.. edited


Added on September 2, 2011, 11:30 am

means that RM1500 extra is service package? no wonder another salesman said that no service package..

what is the service package include (details)?


Added on September 2, 2011, 11:33 am

hahaha.. no way i will trade in it.. i will used it for town driving or send engine oil to my customers. tongue.gif


Added on September 2, 2011, 11:34 am

no suzuki.. suzuki swift is good but my size is big and boroi.. hehehe.. not matching sweat.gif
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bro . u can ask for personal discount geh laugh.gif
last time i bought mine .. Proton gave 3k discount + 1k personal discount .. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 2 2011, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 2 2011, 03:20 PM)
Honda and Toyota fight B-Segment?? Lose kaw-kaw oready...45k Saga vs 90k VIOS/City. Can buy 2 Saga. One use as spare part.  tongue.gif
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Matrix .. u wont understand 1 ..
if not the G .. we can buy vios at 40k ....
45k vs 90k ... 90k way to go tongue.gif

i would not go for an overpriced piece of car (be it becoz of the G or what) ... unless i like it tongue.gif
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post Sep 2 2011, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(vinothrao84 @ Sep 2 2011, 03:34 PM)
i also plan to get inspira 1.8M .... the only 80k budget i can afford ... more over it is big car + value for moneh.....

plan to get it around November....hopefully protong dont replace many parts to OEM .... or else rugi
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if not mistaken after july batch .. more things will be stripped down..
you might not get motorized headlights anymore .. (might not) .. unsure..
might not get tweeter cable..
might not get cruisecontrol cable tongue.gif


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post Sep 2 2011, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(RidzCgFx @ Sep 2 2011, 04:25 PM)
Inspira originally came from japan its Mitsubishi Lancer...Original Mitsubishi lancer pricing now is 120K...proton manufacture only change bodykit,interior and Lotus handling (Original S-AWC/YAW) if im not mistake...however the engine is Original Mitsubishi and with RISE technology impact...so now who want 120K car? biggrin.gif
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local lancer / inspira dun have S-AWC or YAW la... those are for 4 wheel drive system smile.gif
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post Sep 2 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(replymela @ Sep 2 2011, 07:36 PM)
whats more important is the SC, if your car is a good buy also no use. last time i bought a citroen , the SC asked me for the booklet because they dont know how to change the light bulb?? i had own protons too, so much trouble with the workshop.
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Can guarantee Honda SC much better?

My fren sis have full service at honda sc. city for whole 5 years. but they never ask her to replace the gear oil.
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post Sep 2 2011, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 2 2011, 08:06 PM)
Wth.Gear oil need to change every 40k km.
Tmrw morning i will go to proton edar or eon to check the new price.
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Yes.. my fren sis f the service center and ask them whom to blame when the CVT kong ... rclxms.gif

To me, any1 whom drives a car should know some basic maintenance... should not always depends on the SC. Not the SC problem, but the workers..
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post Sep 2 2011, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(hush_puppies @ Sep 2 2011, 09:21 PM)
IF u said Honda SC request to change more than standard then i believe. But u said NEVER ask her to replace gear oil some more is for CVT gearbox? Are u SURE or another blind bashing?

Fren's sis? Hmm... hmm.gif
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to be exact .. its my old housemate... dun believe .. and think i am a basher ???
i dare u .. if really u eat my shit .. i show u the service records ... want ?

-- EDITED -- Ok la .. sorry a bit harsh tongue.gif .. just sharing my experince.. i hate ppl accuse me .. anyway .. she sold her car 2 months ago after the incident and change to another car ..

i think u are more like the basher .. i just sharing my experience.. he known that city have some problem with the first batch CVT .. thats why he go and warn his sis.. and he told me .. never change for 5 years.. i didnt even says honda was not good.. just says that is the worker attitude problem .... rclxms.gif


Added on September 2, 2011, 9:51 pm
QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 2 2011, 09:25 PM)
normal auto GB change oil every 20k
CVT is longer but the oil is more expensive
if she didn't change..very easy kong
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I think it is due to CVT gearbox oil can last longer .. and her sis dun drive much .. thats why the SC didnt ask her change.. but 5 years without change eventhou doesnt hit the distance.. i do think its a bit long ..

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post Sep 2 2011, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 2 2011, 09:52 PM)
unless the service booklet is missing...  smile.gif

back the topic..

INSPIRA 2.0 CVT, paddle shift,GPS,Rear Spoiler, Auto rain/Light Sensor,Auto AC, Auto Cruise, Leather Seat
OTR : 91594

Salesman 1 : dcautoworld

Rebate = RM3500 , D/P = RM4500 , 2 years Free Service
Interest Rate 2.8 Monthly = RM974

Salesman 2 : Rizal

Rebate 5000, downpayment = RM 4160
No Free Service
Interest Rate 3.1

Monthly = RM975
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i would get more rebate if i were u ..
2nd option ... as i prefer fully syn for the 4B11 ..
proton is giving free service on symtium 800 only
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post Sep 2 2011, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 2 2011, 10:17 PM)
demmm... but im thinking to take the free service and to swap the oil during service... and sell to other buyer the petronas oil from SC.
anyone tried b4? is it possible..change ur experience here plsss, this is due to the labour cost also free inside the 2 years free service.. if i dont take the package i need to pay around RM60- Rm80 for labour charge right?
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i think u still get the standard free 3 service (labour only) .. double confirm with ur salesman ..
1st service 1000km
2nd service 10000km
3rd service 20000km
4th - 30000km
5th - 40000km
6th - 50000km

for 2 years free service .. they give till 6th service.
i think u only loose 3 free service (labour) .. which is round up to around 200++

i got mine 3 years / 70k km ..
if not mistaken 2 years / 50k km ..
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post Sep 2 2011, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 2 2011, 10:25 PM)
u count by fully syn
but proton's service count by semi syn oil
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nope ... proton count like tat on SEMI .. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 2 2011, 10:30 PM)
3 service only? no more 6 free service?  rclxub.gif
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No No .. miss communication ..
i mean if u take the package without free 2 years service.. u still eligible for 3 free service (labour only) .. most car give this free one .. need to confirm with salesman thou

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post Sep 3 2011, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 3 2011, 06:19 PM)
semi syn is service every 5k
fully syn is service every 10k
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Trust me.. ask other inspira owner.. proton use syntium 800 @ semi but ask us to service every 10k drive


Added on September 3, 2011, 7:50 pm
QUOTE(limbryan @ Sep 3 2011, 05:28 PM)
for inspira, it look more plastic feel while for lancer, the touch feel more comfort & smooth.
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Funny thou.. my colleague. 2 of them driving lancer gt 2008 n 2010 version..
We always lepak n c each other car. the reason u feel d material different is the dashboard stripe.. lancer got clear coat inspira no. and of coz the ugly look of the clarion player. Other than that we dun see much d difference. bear in mind we compare it side by side.
To me the minimal different doea not justfy 30k.

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post Sep 3 2011, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 3 2011, 07:53 PM)
that's bad
semi syn can't last 10k
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That is why many owner prefer to pay more to upgrade from syntium 800 to 1000. But some service center dun alllow trade in of the syntium 800. Applicable for free service inspira. so get the rebate is more important
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post Sep 4 2011, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(T630 @ Sep 4 2011, 03:12 PM)
i would say city's boot win hands down...  nod.gif
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My inspira boot almost equal to city 1 d..
Just remove d ori spare tire. get a space saver spate tire (lancer). Remove supportive sponge.. there u go... :-)


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