Tell that to those buggers that have "perfect" cars... They have no business fighting P2. They don't even have the impressions of "sorry to hear that your car is problematic, I feel for you" kinda empathy, all they have is "stop the f***ing whine and live with it"... the usual bolehland's "tidak apa" attitude... That's why P2 don't give a damn...

And that's the reason why we have these kinda "whining" discussions. I bet AutoWorld have these kinda "whine" discussion enough to attract the attention of Proton, why can't we...? That's why I suggest tiensong to post on MyPerodua at the same time...

Should I go sulk about it and let P2 have all the fun making money and keep their customers at the losing end..? I rather have P2 sue me for whining and ruining their market.

Actually I do appreciate the efforts of MAOC (hereby MyAlza Owners Club) to address certain minor issues on their own, but now even with 3k people, it is still not enough to "make a dent" at P2, let alone solve major issues... P2 at this moment is just another entity that is hell bent on ripping off consumers with half-baked products... Just read complains on MyPerodua and you will know... How can one pass QC to a car when one bolt to the door is missing..? Imagine the danger it will cause should accidents happen.

It is not my attempt to manipulate your word or mislead people with your word. Humans are imperfect, please emphasise on the word IMPERFECT. Thus human creation, including cars are IMPERFECT. You admitted it, the car is NOT PERFECT (I'm quoting you word by word), yes, all cars are IMPERFECT. And since you tied perfection to quality, Alza is unfortunately not IMPERFECT. It's far from it. It's a DISASTER - Shockingly bad QC.

Let me ask you this, how can you justify a 60k car with a DISASTROUS QC to be good...? A car that gets stranded in the SC every now and then, only to be tested and abused yet again in the SC (a combined 2 months in my case). A car that has the potential to kill other road users with a self-ejecting spare tyre. A car that has the potential to drive you through road rage or prolonged drowsiness with insanely poor NVH (I can vouch MyVis are better). A car that has the probability of a gearbox failure out-of-warranty that can burn a hole in your pocket to replace. A car with whatever shitty problems that are listed on the very first post of this thread.

Put it this way, I have 2 MyVis, cost 49k each. They are imperfect cars yes, but not disastrous. They gave me and my family very little trouble. Some will definitely say 49k for a k-car is overpriced, true, since we have a rather skewed auto-industry that favors protectionism. 49k for an imperfect car is rather OK I might add.

But Alza is 60k, and it's Perodua's flagship model... They are not borrowing new (and perhaps unreliable) technology like those European marques like most people in FnF championed about. It's Toyota and Daihatsu for god sake. Yet I have more problems with my Alza than the 2 MyVis combined. Put yourself in my shoe, and indeed the rest of those owners with problematic Alzas, is this good...?

Tapping wires like that, does it even risk a short circuit..? Remember the alza is a kereta mudah terbakar...

It's ok here both sides, but the problem is the speaker voice is the too soft despite maxing out at volume 25... On highway, road noise is hell, so it's practically unusable... my nokia E71 pairs fine, but doesn't work on iPhones nor iPod touches... Highlighted this problem to Perodua, but they refer me to supplier Betamek in Rawang instead... Die lor if owner ain't from Klang Valley...

Give all those "grandiose" features all half-baked one.... I for one would like to know if my airbag's in working condition...

ain't that follows the 3-year warranty...?

you sure the klok klok sound comes from the absorbers and not the loose brake calipers or whatever nuts that are used to tighten the brakes...?

I know MyVis are common with this problem...

For some odd reasons, my dashboard noise disappeared liao... Only the B-pillars that irritates me...

And do you guys notice rattling metal sound coming from the underside of the car when going thru groovy parking ramps...?

It is designed that way lar... Even iPhones cannot paired with another iPhone... It is designed to pair to accessories only, not to phones...

What i don't really get is why iPhones and indeed my own iPod touch can detect other wireless headsets and speakers, but not that P2 HU...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Feb 1 2013, 01:11 PM

Close the doors and wait around 10 secs... Else lock the doors via remote and the cabin light will go off...

Some of them have success pairing it, but most can't... so like I said, it's not the iPhone problem...

Your Alza is Advance Version with the touchscreen multimedia HU...?

doesn't that make the door closed with a solid thud sound like european cars...?

you guys can try test this... close one door with another one open... or close the door with one window down... feels easier to close right...? but then again you will feel like the door closes more with a clank sound...

simple physics...

There's a reason why it is called NVH, and Alza has extremely poor NVH... Change that damn tires and foam that damn chassis... That should reduce some of the NVH...

I've been complaining to Perodua about the steering vibration on uneven roads since day one... Steering feel is even worse than MyVi...

For some odd reasons, after changing to Mich PS3 tires and foaming my chassis, I tend to like speeding (feels like gliding) on concrete highways than tarred ones... Excessive droning sound is higher on tarred roads. How I wished all KL roads are made of reinforced concretes... More durable and less potholes...

8.3L/100km is around my city drive... A bit on the high side if you use highway. You carry a lot of passengers and luggages, or speeding kao kao...?

I did a round trip from my house to KLIA, then straight to Ipoh, averaging 350km distance doing 110kph, maybe 140kph on certain stretches on highway. 2 people and the luggages. In Ipoh I did another 62km on 3 people without any luggages. Before leaving Ipoh, I was left with 2 bars of petrol, and refilled again. Stats showed I did 7.19L/100km

On the way back to KL was only myself and my luggages. Speeding averagely 130kph was a breeze, this one I must thank tyenfei's little gadget...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Feb 12 2013, 06:55 PM

what's the next step...? higher end Edge VS...?

@wtm0325, I was able to reproduce the rattling dashboard noise again... Mine stem from engine noise at a narrow window of around 2,800 rpm, much like picking up speed from 110kph, and once I reached 120kph, the noise was gone... does it make sense to you...?

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Feb 12 2013, 11:12 PM

Nissan Note...?

Yesterday, and again my dad asked me to sell off my car...

This is just weird... The car shouldn't lock by itself... You sure your car is not haunted...?

Like wtm0325 said, it's time to look for new car... It's about time to start scheming now...

Nissan Note not MPV meh...?

It's a mini-MPV lar... Now you driving an MPV also what...

Don't confuse it with Nissan March...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Feb 20 2013, 08:03 PM

Has P2 fixed your car yet...?

You always angkat manyak olang ke...?

Yeah, Alza has more spacious 2nd row compared to GL, but Note also seem to have that spacious 2nd row...

All those MAJOR problems are enough to detract me from recommending this car to others... With that in mind, anyone can be very lucky enough to get a defective car...

Just look at the NVH... This one will definitely plague ALL alzas... A word of advise to those travelling long distance often... The road noise intrusion from the lousy tyres and untreated acoustics will be enough to cause fatigues behind the wheels... Who in the right mind would wanna endanger themselves and indeed other road users by driving a fatigue-induced car...

I still believe this car can do more than enough... when it comes to killing people, regardless driver, passengers, pedestrians or other motorists...