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post Jan 18 2012, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(Sai91 @ Jan 18 2012, 02:16 AM)
becus the body is same saiz as her head..thats wai look awkward mang.. rolleyes.gif
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roger mang
have to check out the chibis
actually i wanted to do web comic,thats why
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post Jan 18 2012, 11:05 AM

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there are usually 2 size to draw chibi.

1 is draw 2 circle. 1 circle for the head, 1 more circle to fit the whole body (till leg also).

1 more is 3 circle. 1 circle for head, 3/4 for body 2/4 for hips 3/4 for leg. well this one u can customize to ur way of drawing. basically 1 for head, 2 more for the whole body. some like to draw leg longer some shorter. though this second one usually looks towards loli rather then chibi to me.

i like to draw 1:1 portion. 1 circle for head, 1 more for whole body :3
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post Jan 18 2012, 11:15 AM

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google for chibi tutorial. smile.gif
http://www.dragoart.com/chibis-c374-1.htm
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post Jan 18 2012, 11:24 AM

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there is hell a lot of chibi style, basically just the head body eyes ratio had to play well and find the your golden ration of these will do.

some chibi simplified the hair some are not...depend on you.

some old chibi i did

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post Jan 18 2012, 11:33 AM

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agito style is 2:3 ratio xD actually sometimes i do this ratio as well 8D
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(sakuradesune @ Jan 18 2012, 11:05 AM)
there are usually 2 size to draw chibi.

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wow,u got alot of knowledge on this,thanks,gonna be my reference.


QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Jan 18 2012, 11:15 AM)
thanks

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 18 2012, 11:24 AM)
there is hell a lot of chibi style, basically just the head body eyes ratio had to play well and find the your golden ration of these will do.
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wah that hatsune miku and hardo gay so nice,say say say say,lol

QUOTE(sakuradesune @ Jan 18 2012, 11:33 AM)
agito style is 2:3 ratio xD actually sometimes i do this ratio as well 8D
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seems like some of it are 1:1 to me
so u usually do 1:1?
I think 2:3 is nicer

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post Jan 18 2012, 01:41 PM

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i usually start from 1:1. sometimes i terdrag to 2:3 www
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post Jan 18 2012, 09:25 PM

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I really am glad I tried drawing something beyond the pretty women I usually work with. This is ridiculously fun.

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post Jan 18 2012, 11:35 PM

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wow long time no see,where have u been
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post Jan 19 2012, 06:14 AM

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Heh, helping my sister with her modeling career biggrin.gif I'm her bodyguard/makeup artist, LOL
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post Jan 20 2012, 10:25 AM

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hey thats look cool! manly girl xP
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post Jan 20 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Jan 19 2012, 06:14 AM)
Heh, helping my sister with her modeling career biggrin.gif I'm her bodyguard/makeup artist, LOL
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how cool is that,you're an artist,your sister is a model,wau
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post Jan 20 2012, 06:39 PM

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Amy Lee from Evanescence. Drew this during the first week of PLKN.

Reference image - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/395/6...f969e1obt3.jpg/
Somehow the mouth is kinda distorted. The ref image that I printed was overexposed, so couldn't really see much detail :/ Need your critiques and opinions pls! biggrin.gif


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Added on January 20, 2012, 10:58 pm@ OH-
Right now her hair looks very flat, and doesn't follow the shape of her skull. The eyes, too, look "pasted in", and you've made the common mistake of drawing eyelashes strand by strand. There are other issues with the drawing, but most of it is a result of drawing the face as a flat object rather than a three-dimensional form.

I'll suggest that you take the time to learn the structure of the human face first before directly drawing from photo-refs. Once you know the three-dimensional shape of the human head, "eyeballing" details will be easy, even if the photo reference is less-than spectacular (under/over-exposed, too small, blurry etc)



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lovely cheeky angel! D:
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post Jan 21 2012, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(OH- @ Jan 20 2012, 06:39 PM)
Amy Lee from Evanescence. Drew this during the first week of PLKN.

Reference image - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/395/6...f969e1obt3.jpg/
Somehow the mouth is kinda distorted. The ref image that I printed was overexposed, so couldn't really see much detail :/ Need your critiques and opinions pls! biggrin.gif
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actually I can really see the improvement,now you're starting to follow the photo details.
take dragonreine's critiques,never get mad over critiques,and try again.
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Added on January 20, 2012, 10:58 pm@ OH-
Right now her hair looks very flat, and doesn't follow the shape of her skull. The eyes, too, look "pasted in", and you've made the common mistake of drawing eyelashes strand by strand. There are other issues with the drawing, but most of it is a result of drawing the face as a flat object rather than a three-dimensional form.

I'll suggest that you take the time to learn the structure of the human face first before directly drawing from photo-refs. Once you know the three-dimensional shape of the human head, "eyeballing" details will be easy, even if the photo reference is less-than spectacular (under/over-exposed, too small, blurry etc)
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Okay thank you dragonreine. So it's best if I go back to the basic structural drawing of the human face? Okay I'll try that out smile.gif
About the eyelashes you mentioned, how should I draw them then?

QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ Jan 21 2012, 04:07 AM)
actually I can really see the improvement,now you're starting to follow the photo details.
take dragonreine's critiques,never get mad over critiques,and try again.
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Thanks Adamiquesce, yeah I'm open, I accept critiques, if not what's the point of learning smile.gif

Anyways, here's another drawing which I drew during my second week at PLKN. More comments and critiques please! Thanks! smile.gif

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post Jan 21 2012, 10:49 AM

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or just buy a few nendoroid for chibi reference. biggrin.gif

Did this last week.
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post Jan 21 2012, 02:16 PM

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@ OH-

For the sake of convenience and practicality, most artists don't bother rendering eyelashes strand by strand. Unless you're a CG artist, or someone whose work is going to be blown up to billboard size, or something, LOL, and even then it's still mostly unnecessary.

For example, here's the "final" image of one of my latest paintings:

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... and here's the 100% resolution crop of the eyes from the same painting.

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You'll see that the actual painting actually has very simply rendered eyes, and the eyelashes are "hinted" at rather than actually detailed in. In this case, the hinting is actually achieved by drawing a thick, dark line over the edges of the upper lid (which is a trick makeup artists also use to give the illusion of thicker eyelashes, haha), and I only needed to draw in several CURVED AND TAPERING strands of eyelashes to give her the look of thick eyelashes.

Now you might be thinking that "oh, this is digital, so it isn't relevant to me." but the "Keep it Simple" rule comes from traditional art teachings. Take these pencil portraits, for example:

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Again, note that the "eyelashes" are mostly hinted at, again with thick lines. The woman has the extra strands, the man doesn't (because long eyelashes on a guy tends to look somewhat awkward, unless you're going for a certain 'look').

You may want to take a look at the site where the pencil portraits come from: http://www.portrait-artist.org/face/

It not only tells you the methods of drawing a face, but also the common mistakes beginners make (under their "don't do this" section).

You may also want to take a look at these two pages:

http://www.onlypencil.com/blog/tutorials/d...-the-human-eye/
http://www.artgraphica.net/free-art-lesson...es-tutorial.htm

I suggest reading those two sites at the same time. The first goes into detail about the specific techniques used (line weight, pencil pressure, shading/toning, etc), while the second goes more in depth about the materials used (pencil types/softness).

Hopefully, this will help wink.gif

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