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Spanish Clubs FC Barcelona 2011/12, Goodbye Keiteeee!!

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post Apr 19 2012, 05:22 AM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Apr 19 2012, 04:43 AM)
Chelsea played the Mourinho's ugly style which is to def with all man and wait for counter attack... boring. Parked the bus since second half and they literally formed a pentagon around Messi sweat.gif

However I'd say Chelsea will regret defending too much because bringing one goal advantage to Nou Camp is just not enough.
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i beg to difer bro, if there is ever a scoreline Chelsea wants to bring to Nou Camp is 1-0 is the perfect advantage, 2-0 is almost impossible ain't it..its Barcelona we are talking about
heck to start things off, despite the first leg stamford bridge, Barcelona was still favorites to win...but left with a defeat
Keep in mind if Chelsea can defend like that, they can do the same at Nou Camp....a goal for Chelsea @ Nou Camp
simply means Barcelona need "3", Chelsea will park the mighty bus in front of their goal and unleash people Torress for counter attacks
I may be wrong, it may go horribly wrong for Chelsea at Nou Camp, but as it stands definitely advantage Chelsea.


QUOTE(matyrze @ Apr 19 2012, 04:58 AM)
That depends on personal perspective. For me Chelsea's defence was not that effective. If so we wouldn't be able to hit their post twice, and squandering other chances as well.
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Beg to difer as well
The amount of passes intercepted, shots block..etc etc was just excellent from Chelsea POV
of course Barcelona would still have their chances, it's Barcelona after all, the best attacking side ever imo...that's a compliment.
And considering from Barcelona perspective their chances was kept at Minimal, the fact that Barcelona failed to score simply means Chelsea tactics and defensive was all in all spot on, Ugly but brilliant.
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post Apr 19 2012, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Apr 19 2012, 05:40 AM)
For the number of interceptions Chelsea made, it is not a revelation. In fact, it is expected by everyone, considering the number of bodies they threw at the back. And despite of the bus, we still had found our way through their defence. Do you get my POV?

And how was our number of chance kept at minimal? If we convert one of our chances you won't be singing the same tune. Yes the fact is we didn't score. I just want to point out that how ordinary and brilliant gameplays (especially defending) are only separated by a very very thin line these days.
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Do take note i am not a Chelsea fan, just a neutral that is really impressed with Chelsea game play this morning

You kidding me? of course Chelsea can only keep Barce contain to a certain extend,
If by your definition, on and off for sure Barcelona succeeds in breaking through Chelsea defense
(To me breaking a defense down, is only accountable when u score goals, Barce had a few half-a-chance as the last few minutes where Barce hit the post is imo just half a chance, and half a chance to clear cut chance is a whole different level)

You guys are Barcelona mate! arguably the best attking football club in the world, Which club can possibly "completely" neutralize a team like Barce to not by pass the opposition defence? maybe there is like what hotgary said in La Liga,...but how many are there? even if there is, how often does it happen?

to say Chelsea is expected to make all the blockings, yes is true, but i watch the PL often that tonight is one of the games where Chelsea interception/block - count/success rate is one of the highest ever, that i did not expect to happen.

i think you and i both know in football "If" is a very big word, I think we've gone through all the if's in our life before, but the fact that Barcelona did not score tonight i guess it is rather inappropriate to use that now.

Put it to simpler terms:

What was Expected :
-Barce to win as they were favorites, don't ask me how i know this, from media to betting odds
despite playing at stamford brigde, i find the odds against Chelsea quite degrading sweat.gif
-Barce to score at a goal or more
-Chelsea to intercept balls, block shots

What was Unexpected -
-Chelsea winning the game
-Chelsea got a clean sheet, Barce fail to score
-Chelsea to intercept balls, and block shots that good

The points above may not be significant as one, but if you take them all tiny bits & pieces and accumulate it, Chelsea emerge superior winner. Against Barcelona, a very thin line means everything! There is no thrashing to Barcelona thou i'd love to see that happen some day for the love of football.
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post Apr 19 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Apr 19 2012, 12:26 PM)
You see, this is your POV. Your perspective is like that. You choose to be on the side which believe that, although Barca have breached their defense in a number of times, Chelsea showed the superior defensive display of the match.

I'm on this side of the fence, and I can only see that Barca could only do so much, but nothing to show at the end of it. Lady luck wasn't on our side, probably in the same manner she was not at Chelsea side in 2009.

Regarding PL, I bet that Chelsea very seldom put up such a negative display in PL right?
Yea if is a big word. Just wanted to make a point that anything still could happen last night. For me, that say something about our performance as well. It was superb, considering the condition. We just didn't have the goals to show.
First of all, I do congratulate Chelsea for the win. But I won't go as far as saying they were brilliant. The superior winner? Far from it. I'm not saying Barca was superior either. I'm just saying that both had their moments. It was a balanced affair.

Yes the thin line means something everytime against us, I understand that. My problem is the way the 'brilliant' word has been 'abused' by football fans. It is being abused in such a way that every time you step ahead of the thin line by 1cm, and at the end you win, although it was a nervy affair, then you are the superior one, the brilliant one.

Chelsea did what they had to do, but IMO Barca was the team that showed more initiatives in the game. Chelsea did well, Barca did well. In the end Chelsea came out top. So, again I congratulate them for that smile.gif
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okay, then i guess we both view things differently, that's fine...i respect that
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post Apr 26 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel10Messi @ Apr 26 2012, 07:03 AM)
Haha.

anti- climax.  everyone predicted it would be an El Clasico UCL finale.

who would have thought the other way? ohmy.gif

Bayern for the UCL this year! laugh.gif
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not everybody bro(perhaps only all of Barce fan's), i predicted Chelsea to lose 2-1 and qualify on away goal rule
but Toress being an arse made it 2-2 sleep.gif


There is no denying Barce to score at Nou Camp, but at the rate Barce went from the past 2 games (1st leg lost and El Classico lost)
Chelsea won 1st leg and took a vital point at Emirates Stadium,
With the veteran player Chelsea has, Chelsea entered the game mentally stronger
which they clearly displayed it

With the above, it felt likely that Chelsea will score a goal...through counter attack(true enough),
and if Chelsea do park the bus,which they did, 2 goals would seem like an ideal figure for Chelsea to concede,

Hence the prediction of 2-1 lost for Chelsea.
I know i am crazy right to think of this, but that just how i think
just my 2 cents,

Anyway what's not winning UCL a year for Barce, like they said.....nobody can win everything
dry spell come on and off, i dare not put my money on Barce not reaching the final again next year.





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post Apr 26 2012, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Adryan @ Apr 26 2012, 06:53 PM)
It was almost a one-off game. How often do you see Messi not scoring that 1v1 chance against Cech after one-two with Fabregas or missing a penalty. Also Barca hit the woodwork four times and how often do you see opponents scoring from 3 goals from 3 shots on goal in 180 minutes?

No doubt Chelsea defended well but also had luck on their side.
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Messi is not god, he is a human after all
1 off game you said, perhaps its true
but in the semi final they have 2 legs, you don't get 1 right, u get your 2nd chance
2nd chance u fail to get it right again, just maybe...it's not about luck anymore

the entire 2nd half Chelsea defended with 10 men,imo Barce don't even seem to threaten as much as they did first half...
explains a lot as well right.

3 shots 3 goal, Chelsea knew, their chance would come limited...thus the need to execute 1 chance 1 goal is top priority
humans when are pushed till the limit, they do extraordinary things, everyone does.

if we look at it the other way, the fact that Chelsea can only attack 3 times*
why on earth barce failed to even stop it, they cant stop a team from attacking 3 times?

there is a lot of ways to look at it bro, like i said if one chose to look at it pro-barce way
that's fine, i respect it..we are all in love with our own club, being bias is always there even the slightest of bit



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