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post Sep 1 2011, 03:18 PM

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Aiyo bloody internationals spoil everything la. Is anyone even interested in those games? Now we cant watch Man Utd for 2 weeks,especially painful as we were in top form and i just hope no one gets injured..
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post Sep 11 2011, 02:37 AM

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Holy sheet,what an amazing start. I cant remember a season where we started so well. And Berba hasnt even started yet! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2011, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 11 2011, 02:41 AM)
2006/07 season. The blooming of Roo and Ron's partnership.
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Lol you've got an awesome memory. For the past couple of years,i vaguely remember us drawing in the few matches.

QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 11 2011, 02:41 AM)
Carrick, Rio, Berba, Vida, Park, Valencia, Fletcher, Giggs, Hernandez all played only small part so far. Bodes well later on in the season when the kids ran out of steam later on in the season. Hoho.
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Exactly! I just hope some of the guys don't get restless on the bench. Its gonna be very tough for Valencia and Berba in particular to get matches. Nani and Young are playing superbly. I have to say,Young really looks like a world class player,he just seems to be loving this atmosphere of playing alongside world class players.

In attack,Rooney is a guaranteed starter for us. Hernandez and Berba both offer something different. Then we have Welbeck and Macheda.(and Owen,lolerz).

This 2 positions i.e. Winger and striker,will really cause Sir Alex some very positive kinds of headaches biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2011, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 11 2011, 02:51 AM)
mana ada meltdown. itu confidence.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

they have the bestest midfield, gk and whatever that you can name.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif


Added on September 11, 2011, 2:53 am
Could say the same about defenders tho. Evans, Smalling and Jones are performing so well that Rio and Vida need to convince the gaffer!

The twins will cause more headache if they're playing at the same time. Que that Arsenal match last season ..
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I believe the defenders will be much more patient though,but you're right man. Vidic captain,no headaches,he starts!!!!! tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 14 2011, 02:50 PM)
He's rested for this Sunday - same one used by AVB for Terry.


Added on September 14, 2011, 2:54 pm

Hey guys, I just joined the MUST league.... but I want to know where the points are calculated from - Week 1? Because if yes.... I'm top of the league (unofficially) at 262 points  icon_idea.gif
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Week 1 not counted and sorry,but Overall Points 294 tongue.gif
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post Sep 15 2011, 04:56 AM

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Quite a flat performance today. Reminded me of most of our away games last season,especially looking at the starting line-up. But in the end,i would say im not entirely disappointed with the point.
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post Sep 15 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(themanguydude2 @ Sep 15 2011, 04:09 PM)
We certainly don't look as slick without Anderson.
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Sep 15 2011, 04:27 PM)
I stayed up to watch the game yesterday... it was so boring until i slept in the middle of the 1st half... but woke up in the start of the second half... Carrick made so many errors that I literally swearing in front of the TV. He can't even make a simple forward pass properly before giving the ball away. No confidence whatsoever. When your central midfield doesn't have confidence.. the team morale drop tremendously.. remember where we keep reminding each other that we need a creative central midfield? Well the problem is back..
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We can clearly see the difference between the pairings of Carrick+Fletcher and Ando+Cleverley. With the former,we didnt have control near offensively at all. They were playing almost 15-20 yards behind. Credit really has to go to SAF for discovering the Ando+Cleverley pairing
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post Sep 16 2011, 02:31 PM

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People need to start paying attention to what others have been posting. Clearly the issue was the weak PERFORMANCE,not the score. No one here is angry that we didnt win 45-0. MOST of us are commenting about the performance,especially in the first half,which reminded me,at least,of last seasons away form.

YES i know its the first game of the champs league group stage.
YES i know its only the 5th game of the season.
YES i know a couple of players were back from injury.
And im sure almost everyone else feels that way too.

God,if voicing opinions immediately means we're doubting SAF la,we deluded la,we ignorant la,then better just close the thread and let people post their sarcastic crap like 'FIRE SAF TROLOLOLOLO' everyday.

Anyway,on to the Chelsea game :
I hope we try the same formation we've been using in the league. Young on the left,Nani on the right. The only problem would be in the centre,who do we pair with Ando. I would prefer Fletcher considering he's been our big game star for the past 2 years. In attack,im still hoping Berba gets a chance to play but realistically,SAF might play rooney+Hernandez based on form.
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post Sep 16 2011, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Sep 16 2011, 03:13 PM)
Commenting about performances?

Any of you here actually realized Benfica played EXCELLENTLY, bringing the game to our team? Their attackers linked so well, Pablo Aimar, being a legend of attacking midfield he is, goes head to head with our defenders everytime he gets the ball. Their midfield and defenders managed to break our gameplay especially in the first 30 minutes of the game.

Do i see any of you commenting on that? Instead all i see is comments on how the team under-performed. Just because Benfica isnt a international name if compared to Porto (at least in our part of the world), you immediately assume they are the team that we "can perform against". they are runners up in Portuguese League, and the winners before. The very moment i tuned in to the game and see the amazing atmosphere in the stadium, i know they are one heck of a club.

And even if the performance of the team isnt as good, in what terms of performance are you judging? to get a point away from home against Benfica, this performance is normal for United. Why suddenly the talk about WEAK performance? Simple really; your expectation skyrocketed after the game against Arsenal and Bolton.

If you think every game is like how we play against Arsenal and Bolton, then i suggest u stop watching for the rest of the season. It's gonna be bumpy as always, shock defeats or draws will turn up at some point of the season.
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Wow,do you even know what performance means? Performance means how the team played on the particular day. It doesn't matter to me if we played Benfica,or Barcelona or Brazil ; Im looking at how WE played. Benfica could've been playing the greatest football in the world,what matters to me is how WE COUNTERED that and how WE PERFORMED against them. If you don't think we were under-performing,at least in the first half,you were probably watching the wrong match. Everyone noticed that,so we were talking about the performance. No disrespect to Benfica,in the first half,they played well,but we are Manchester United,we should be playing better than that. We barely kept the ball flowing and there were WAYYYY too many misplaced passes. Is that normal to you? Isnt that performance related? How is that connected to the final result? Like i said previously,im happy with the point ; Champs league,hostile environment,away game,against the main threat in the group. Thus,im happy with the point,a little disappointed with the performance.

I dont know how you can confuse that with whining about the result.
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post Sep 16 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Sep 16 2011, 03:39 PM)
If opponent plays well and disrupts our gameplay, wouldnt our performance be affected as well? If opponent continues to put a foot in and intercepts passes, does that mean our passes suck, or they did well in preventing our performances from going the right way? The way i see it Benfica did enough to makes us sloppy by applying pressure. They bring the game to us so our defenders have a lot to do. Or are you saying that United should play great football, and that how opponent play against us is irrelevant? So If United's passing completion is 95% against Swindon Town, but against Barcelona is only 90%, United's performance against Barcelona is worse than that against Swindon Town? by your logic the opposition doesnt matter, so that is the conclusion?

and like i said, if you think every performance needs to be excellent, no missed passes (regardless opposition intercepting or not), each shot goes on target (regardless if opposition puts their body against our shots) or our defender tackles every single ball (regardless if opposition have great and fluid movement or not), then United's game is not for you because United being United, the club will always grind results, and win games even when doesnt perform.
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Dude,you're clearly confused and i dont intend to argue with someone who wants to contradict just for the sake of contradicting.

"Or are you saying that United should play great football, and that how opponent play against us is irrelevant"
I cant even brain this. Of course we are responsible for how we perform doh.gif

We go into every game with the intention to play well and win. What you are saying is that we shouldnt enter a game with the intention to be excellent?
Of course we play every game intending not to make ANY mistakes.

Anyway,i dont want to argue with you. I hope you read my first post again and try to understand what i meant about performance.
Sorry if i offended you.
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post Sep 16 2011, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Sep 16 2011, 04:03 PM)
Obviously the team wants to play well and doesnt make mistake, but the degree of that depends on who we are playing against as well. The stronger the opposition, of course the more likely they can counter our play and force errors from our players. Similarly, we try our best to disrupt opposition's game play and as such, they end up not performing.

My point is, our performances doesnt just depend on ourselves, it depends on how well opposition play as well. So to criticize the player's performances because they faced a strong opponent or opponent who themselves played well isnt fair. If you still cant brain this, then i dunno what else to say, that sentences is simple enough.
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We all know this,trust me,every football fan knows this. But we are Manchester United,wouldn't you like to think we have to ability to play against any team and counter their play? Don't you have the confidence in our players being able to rise above or at least play at the level that the opponent is playing at? Because i do. I believe we have great players who SHOULD be able to match up with any other team in the world. And that is why the PERFORMANCE of the team was disappointing on Wednesday,because the team did not rise to the level required. Im not asking for a massive scoreline,most of us arent. All i want is the team to play with energy and to perform better and im not gonna sugarcoat it,but the play especially in the first half was very mediocre and even boring to be frank.

That was the main point SAF made when he was asked to comment about our Champs League final last season. He wants the team to raise the level. He said it himself. All im saying is that i agree with him. The games against Arsenal and Bolton were FANTASTIC. Above expectations.

So,obviously our opponents on a certain day matters. But keep in mind that being able to challenge every team and compete against their strengths is what champions are made of. That is all.


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post Sep 16 2011, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Sep 16 2011, 04:26 PM)
the bolded part, it applies to "Every Single Time" is it?

i think your post sums all your expectations up. 1 less-than-convincing game, and you claimed the player failed to live up to expectations. 1 game, and they disappointed you. Thats why i ask you, and maybe some others, to maybe skip the rest of the season because there will be more of such games. your expectation is that the player churned out great performances every single time. Well let me tell you this, they wont be able to do it every single time, and thats what being a champion is all about: getting results even when not performing.
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Dude,that is the latest game so i comment about that game la. Im claiming the players did not play well IN THAT GAME. Using your logic,no need to have football talk shows every week la then since every week every team only plays one game. No need to have blogs like republikofmancunia who has his own section after every game and no need to have analysts to look into each perfomance. Hell,no need to have this thread also since everytime I mention about our performance in that game,you talking about me not having to watch anymore games. What kind of attitude is that? I cant even discuss about our performance after they play because there are gonna be more games like that? Doesnt make sense rite? I thought the reason for having a football thread is to discuss the performance of the team? Or have i gotten that one wrong also now?
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post Sep 16 2011, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(SImPle PLan @ Sep 16 2011, 05:55 PM)
Let me brain this out.
What pyroboy1911 means that the way we judge the performance of our team depends on which team we played against.

If we were up against Barca on that nite, perhaps it would have been a very good performance. Able to stay so high on the pitch attacking opponent and scores goal although with couple of mispasses, it is still very much encouraging.

However with weakened opponent team, we are expected to fair well with lesser mistake and more fluid passing.

TBH, Benfica pressured our players alot especially M.Perreira who managed to mark Park tightly throughout the game. Luisao is another highlight of the game, repelling almost all of the crosses from our wingers.

I would say we managed to stay on par with them despite missing couple of important players and playing away.
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Sorry dont feel like writing a long response tongue.gif But O-Haiyo understands the bit about performance. It shouldn't really depend on who we play. Our performance must be solid regardless of the opposition. Obviously we can't have A+ performances every game,so when these kinds of performances occur,we should at least be able to point it out instead of closing our eyes and ears,shaking our head going 'La la la long season,first game,you lousy fan i better fan,lalala,you dont watch MU anymore coz we gonna have similar games lalalla'

QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 16 2011, 06:23 PM)
Sorry. I have to disagree with the bolded statement. It is depends on ourselves. Whether you win, lose or draw, performance is another story. You can lose but still perform well.
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Exactly the point i was trying to make smile.gif Yes we drew the match,but the performance was sub-par.

QUOTE(sheng @ Sep 16 2011, 06:44 PM)
bro ,standard la this thread.

A: "dissapointed by the poor performance, but a good away point"
B: "TROLOLOL ppl expect we win 10-0 every game, delusional fans"
C: "TROLOLOL one game and people are doubting SAF"

Poor little A is then bombarded with retarded sarcastic remarks posted indirectly to him.
wtf?
a unique thread, this.
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Sigh,tell me about it mate. I dont know how people can still justify that kind of replies. Really no fun posting when only a few prefer talking about the match in its essence..

Anyway,no point arguing amongst ourselves la. I know and understand that everyone has a different view and opinion on certain aspects of the club. No particular point or view can actually be considered the right one,very subjective smile.gif
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post Sep 17 2011, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 16 2011, 09:56 PM)
Well, it could lead to a discussion isn't it? Instead of gazillion of sarcastic remark whenever someone says like that? Also, I don't see anything wrong he voiced it out that way rather than cursing the players. He was just stating his opinion on how the game was.

And I believe some of us did try to discuss what went wrong, but in the end you know how it goes. Go support other club, we should buy ronaldo messi, torres, mata etc to replace current players, sack fergie among others of sarcastic replies.

Yeah, why so serious? But the manner this thread is going where every single opinion/critics are replied with sarcastic remarks, how can you not be serious?  laugh.gif
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Haha bro,you mirror my opinions exactly man!! biggrin.gif
Nvm la lets drop it,like i said,everyone has his own opinion. Who's to say an opinion is right or wrong,am I rite? smile.gif
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post Sep 17 2011, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Sep 17 2011, 02:14 AM)
fuhh perpetual motion yo.amazed at the united lot we have here.  mega_shok.gif
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Im amazed that people find 'giving your best' such an alien term. What defeatist attitude showed by the same ones who show a holier than thou attitude otherwise.
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post Sep 17 2011, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(smudger14 @ Sep 17 2011, 02:15 PM)
I don't know what's all the fuss of the draw that some of you guys have opinion with....For the record, when we play away in UCL, the team tend to be very tactical compared to when we play at OT. Chill guys. Draw is acceptable smile.gif Lets look forward to this Sunday's game rather than talking about a game that has pass on a few days already. I'm really excited in looking how we take on Chelsea.
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Im feeling a little nervous about this match. For the past 3 seasons,no matter the league standings,ive always considered chelsea our toughest opponents in a match. They have big strong players and the experience to go with it. And i always fear us conceding to them from a corner lol
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post Sep 17 2011, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Sep 17 2011, 02:56 PM)
first thing first, what's ur track record whenever u feel nervous about United's game? tongue.gif
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Lol i was nervous before the arsenal game so i dont think its a good gauge to determine anything tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 11:54 PM

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Amazing scoreline,i hope we keep the ball well in the second half and don't give it away in dangerous positions. Very good match overall. MORE OF THE SAME PLEASE biggrin.gif
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post Sep 19 2011, 12:58 AM

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Very very strange game. I hope the penalty miss wont affect Rooney too much. Im fking ecstatic though,we beat chelsea 3-1 and we're top of the league,5 our of 5. Evra MOTM for me.
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Evra was fantastic, De gea played well too. Was very pleased to see Berba get some game time as well

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