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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Liverpool 2 -1 Wolves : LS7 scored again

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post Sep 18 2011, 10:00 PM

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This is painful. Frakkin painful.
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post Sep 22 2011, 02:37 PM

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But now whenever we concede a penalty you know they are going to score.

It used to be different. We used to think our keeper had the better chance.
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post Sep 24 2011, 09:38 PM

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Any streaming links mates?
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post Sep 24 2011, 10:39 PM

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BRILLIANT GOAL!
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post Sep 24 2011, 10:41 PM

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Suarez looking very lively tonight.
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post Sep 24 2011, 11:18 PM

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Skrtel that's not how you tackle!
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post Sep 24 2011, 11:23 PM

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Henderson doing nothing again.
Carroll looks good today though.

Looks like Suarez has become our Gerrard of late.
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post Sep 24 2011, 11:54 PM

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The King wouldn't have signed Suarez and Adam if he wanted all ENGLISHMEN.
FFS cut him some slack.
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Sep 25 2011, 12:02 AM)
IMO It was the correct sub. Gerrard isn't a great CM and not to mention it's risky to have him play in CM making tackles. Suarez didn't warrant a sub but it was either him or Carroll. Suarez played well tonight, but Carroll still needs play time to improve and have better understanding with his teamates. Also, Suarez has nearly always been subbed towards the end of a match. He just wanted to stay on and play, nothing wrong with that. Kenny will deal with him.
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Typical knee jerkers getting their knickers in a bunch again. Typical.

Suarez needed rest. Gerrard needed minutes. And Carroll was probably better than Suarez at long balls.

This post has been edited by Zephyr_Mage: Sep 25 2011, 12:06 AM
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 25 2011, 12:05 AM)
I think what we all doubting here is whether KD trying to pro Carrol or is he making decision based on situation. Or even worse, he trying to justify his statement on Carrol and prove the world wrong. A goal up and you taking out your best player and putting in an unfit player who din play for 6 freaking months? That's seriously wtf.
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I wouldn't say Gerrard didn't play for 6 months. He did play in midweek. rolleyes.gif
And Gerrard looked far fitter than most of our midfielders when he came on. So he was the right choice.
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(PPZ @ Sep 25 2011, 12:06 AM)
Was very angry by sub suarez with gerrard. I want our no 9 drop to reserve. I don know what is in kd mind but he got all his tactical wrong and sub wrong ppl. Great.. next news we gonna heard is suarez moving to barca. Good job kenny.
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What is this nonsense?
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 25 2011, 12:10 AM)
Second this.
It makes sense if KD wanted to rest Suarez.
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Many people think this is like playing FIFA but what they don't realise is Suarez played during the summer which means he got no rest at all.
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 25 2011, 12:10 AM)
A player's fitness dun return to his best for one game which he played only...erm 20minutes+?

Carrol injured last March and he is still yet to return to his 'best'.

As for midfielders we had on pitch earlier, they were tired cos midweek game.So, of course, generally, Gerrard will look fitter... smile.gif
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So what is the reason for you getting your knickers in a bunch over this substitution?
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Sep 25 2011, 12:14 AM)
Just shows how passionate he is with his game. At least he didn't vent all the frustration on someone. 10million times  better than Caroll who looked like a dead fish throughout the game.....
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Did we watch the same match?
He was unlucky not to score.
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 25 2011, 12:19 AM)
Look fitter doesn't mean he is fit. He has fresh legs but he is still unfit. In a game with such high tempo, and gerrard slowly losing his pace of old times, this is very unwise time of substituting Suarez with him. If Adam was the one being replaced by Gerrard, fine, good decision because technically, Adam isn't really good in defending and in terms of passing, Gerrard has an edge over him.

Have you not heard of the saying ' Attack is the best defense'?  Suarez was causing all sorts of problems to Wolves' defense and in a month like this where we lose 2 league matches and struggled to beat a championship team in carling cup, I would expect KD to put strongest player on pitch until we get a far convincing result . 2-1 with the shake defense of ours, taking out the player that was a thorn in opponent's flesh is clearly an unwise move. Still, I prefer Gerrard-Suarez linkup than Gerrard-Carrol. That's the point I m trying to make.
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If Wolves were creating all sorts of problems for us when Suarez was still on, what makes you think we wouldn't have conceded if he had stayed on?
Plus he was tired. King Kenny saw it and took him off.
Carroll was running all over the place too, and he provides better aerial presence, which we needed late in the game when it becomes a long ball game.

As I said, Suarez played throughout the year and needs delicate management.

Also, the midfield performed better when Stevie came on. So what's the problem?
When Rafa made a gamble and it paid off, people hailed it as tactical genius. Now KD's gamble paid off and he is getting slagged off for it?
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Sep 25 2011, 12:25 AM)
Agree bout Downing and Carroll creating a lot of chance. Carroll did improve a lot in this game. He is moving all over the pitch to create chance. However Henderson is very useless in this game. His crosses, passes and positioning suck. I remember there was once the was on the right side and no one was marking him but he make a very very poor cross
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Agreed. Henderson offers nothing at the moment. Would rather play Kuyt on the right.
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:40 AM

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Now King Kenny is being labelled as a racist.
And I thought I'd seen it all. doh.gif
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Sep 25 2011, 12:42 AM)
he chosen the same lineup again spurs is not call him trying out combinations..it call chossing englishmen against anybody...we lost meireles becoz he been dropped for 'some' englishmen  doh.gif
About our match against spurs, i'm completely disagree with KD responds (yes, he was really good in answering reporter question) that said tottenham play very2 well...actually our teams is poor..totally poor that day....that is...now i'm nervous...if we lose against everton n man u, that gonna be terrible.
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Meireles put in a transfer request!!
Shows how much you know really.
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post Sep 25 2011, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(shinobi83 @ Sep 25 2011, 12:56 AM)
and the reason he put in transfer request is.......? because some englishmen has taken his spot!
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Sep 25 2011, 12:57 AM)
yes..he put transfer request....but if you're meireles would you still be here if you been dropped on the bench for some englishmen suddenly although you're the PFA player of the year??the answer quite simple right...
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If Kenny was gonna sell him he would have done so earlier on.
Meireles put in a transfer request on deadline day itself, now why would you want a player like that in your team?
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post Sep 25 2011, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Joe2011 @ Sep 25 2011, 01:07 AM)
IF he gets to play regularly, i dont think this would be an issue. Its not that he did not perform.
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Why would he be guaranteed a place?
King Kenny was instated as the manager, of course he'd want to sign his own players. Now if Meireles was good enough, why didn't he stay on and fought for his place?
Lucas managed to keep his place just fine.

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