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 Downlight Quality Concern, Sharing the poor quality downlight

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Bishop
post Aug 28 2011, 10:48 PM

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What are your concerns? 3/4 legs. Extra unused holes?

You are buying some really cheap fittings. Don't expect too much.

The difference with quality fittings and cheap is in the built quality and unseen research. Good fittings have reflectors that dont cause glare. Next time you go shopping, go look at Zara shop. They use Erco fittings(German made). Look at the light. There is no glare unless you are looking directly at the bulb. There are cheaper variants of it.

When buying lights, don't keep looking for the cheapest. Look at the lighting quality that it produce. You already spent so much on the house, why save on one of the most important aspect of the space - the light. Lighting is what creates the ambiance in your home. Bad lighting design and fitting will make the nicest house look bad.
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post Aug 29 2011, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Aug 28 2011, 11:16 PM)
Aiya bro, dont straight jump to conclusion la, I'm here to ask and discuss the issue only. No offence. Sometimes cheap things do not mean all those poor quality things, same for the case as there are expensive things but with low quality. I'm new with downlights, and thats why in order not to get con by the shop, so I'm here to seek for advice. And by the way, I am not looking for the cheapest downlight in market. The 'cheapest' I mean is exactly same model and quality but a lot different in price from this shop compared to other shops around my area, and the main reason it is cheaper than other shops is because the shop having Raya promotion. Of course I know those 3x or 5x more expensive downlights have better quality. But sometimes it depends on budget also, thats why I'm surveying around for mid-range downlights instead. And thanks for your comments. I do agree that 'Lighting is what creates the ambiance in your home' thumbup.gif  and thats why I'm here to discuss about the mentioned issue and see if anybody face the same situation or not.
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Yes, that is why the first thing I asked you is what you are concern here? blush.gif

The framing is not that important. What you need to be looking for is the quality of the reflectors. Expensive fittings also use the same bulbs, but the difference is in the quality of the reflectors. Most light shops also don't know about this. All they concern about is the out look and the wattage. Good fittings are a lot brighter because they will reflect a lot more light thus higher efficiency at the same wattage. To most ppl that is not an issue.

The real issue is actually glare. Cheap fitting causes a lot of glare. And this will cause fatigue when exposed too long. You will find that you are tired and irritated when in these spaces. whistling.gif

Choose good fittings that have less glare. thumbup.gif
(test it in the shop and walk around looking at it at different angle)
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post Aug 29 2011, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:21 AM)
Bishop,
wah...so difficult lal...which shop or what should we look for?
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I don't sell lights. blush.gif (not yet... brows.gif ) those I recommend you will say damn bloody expensive... rclxub.gif

Best is to see the light in action and walk around looking at it. if you can, see if you can look at the reflectors. Touch it and look at the surface/reflector quality. The good imported fittings actually has Polaroid coating on it to reduce glare. That is why they are so expensive. The china cheap one only copy the outlook but not the technology. whistling.gif

If don't want to spend too much on light fittings then make sure your lighting layout is properly designed. Position them so that they are bright where you need them to be only and not too 'over exposed'. Last time they always want house to be VERY bright. It needs to be bright enough to do what you need and not more. else you will find it very tiring when you are there too long. This is what we call fatigue. sweat.gif


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post Aug 29 2011, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(twentyseven @ Aug 29 2011, 01:54 AM)
bishop,
whats the price range for erco downlight ? and where to get it in kv ?
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Last I checked it was about rm200-300 per down light for their cheaper range rclxub.gif But using that in a regular house is over design... whistling.gif

go to shops that sells to project and you will find better light fixtures there. Most retail shops by the roadside sell cheap china lights with little regard for quality. shakehead.gif

Best is to buy from 'real' brands, not some brand less fitting. Look and see if they have websites or some brochure at least. Read up and see if their fittings have any special features - long lasting, wide angle throw, high efficiency, etc... Then you know that the fitting is not some cheap copy. icon_rolleyes.gif


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