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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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post Aug 29 2011, 09:13 AM

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standing by to load up....hunting for ozzie nugget today
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post Sep 2 2011, 02:55 PM

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jphlau,

can you just share your expected price here?
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post Sep 4 2011, 08:53 AM

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hi lustman,

i did it last year and did it last month and did it again last week. now hunting for more ozzies nuggets to pile up.

what are you looking to know about it? still a beginner though. bottom line is , as long the gold price raised rm1/gm per month. u breakeven.
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post Sep 4 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(vaio2770 @ Sep 4 2011, 09:36 AM)
i did it last month....made a bit for duit raya...
btw, afaik, arrahnu dont accept bullion and bar...only gold jewellery, correct me if i'm wrong
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ar-rahnu agrobank - only jewellery stuff
ar-rahnu b.rakyat - jewellery and coins - kijang emas, ozzie nuggets and maple from UOB only. you must have the receipt/cert.

be careful though on maple as some UOB cashier said, they won't buyback if already open the softcase, but another one said, can sellback as long no weight loss due to scratch and no dent.

lustman,
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post Sep 5 2011, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Sep 5 2011, 02:19 PM)
Would you guys get a 1/10 oz. maple for rm687 or a public dinar for rm816. Dinar is 916 and maple is 9999. Please do tell me why also. Thanks
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maple. should be around 3.1gm of pure 24k 999.9 gold
1st - it is recognized by LBMA (mentioned by goldchan).
2nd - if it is from uob - better (can go ar-rahnu bank rakyat during hard times) wink.gif



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post Sep 5 2011, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Sep 5 2011, 03:31 PM)
Okay. Thanks guys for the input. Anyone here selling with receipt? I am still below 18, cannot go uob and get. tongue.gif
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do note that you can't sell back uob maple/nugget if the receipt is not your name. only the owner can sell back to UOB.

so, decide carefully if you plan to buy one, if the difference than buying new is significant.
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post Sep 5 2011, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Sep 5 2011, 03:31 PM)
Okay. Thanks guys for the input. Anyone here selling with receipt? I am still below 18, cannot go uob and get. tongue.gif
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do note that you can't sell back uob maple/nugget if the receipt is not your name. only the owner can sell back to UOB.

so, decide carefully if you plan to buy one, if the difference than buying new is significant.
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post Sep 5 2011, 04:59 PM

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yes, you are correct, but as mentioned, if the price difference from uob is significant. uob is around 3~4% spread while other trader is much more than that smile.gif

but....any saving in form of physical gold is goooood tongue.gif
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post Sep 5 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(FrancescoTop8 @ Sep 5 2011, 06:31 PM)
Sadly, most of the information about the lelong event artificially disclosed, a bit like close tender.
Even my friend, a bank officer in AgroBank doesn`t know about the lelong organized by his employer  brows.gif
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i've never entered agrobank lelong, but bank rakyat one, quite impossible to win lah.
usually they do at the end of the month, around 22nd-ish for bank rakyat. they will put up notice and display the items.
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post Sep 7 2011, 08:00 PM

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Added on September 7, 2011, 8:02 pm
QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Sep 7 2011, 05:23 PM)
Do you think getting the sri ayu dinar would be a good idea compared to the ones I thought of before?
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QUOTE(Nidz @ Sep 7 2011, 03:31 PM)
emirates is cheapest, but dunno whether its easy to sell or not.
kangaroo is more well known, i think.
pamp is most expensive, but very popular and well known for its premium.

if it was me,
for long term, i'll buy emirates. if for trading, i'll buy either kangaroo or pamp.
anyway, all are still gold. u wont go wrong, unless gold market went into recession...  sweat.gif
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nidz said already bro, long term - buy the cheapest 999.9 bar/dinar/gold or whatever gold. ignore the spread. gold is still gold.

trading/short term - buy the smallest spread.

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post Sep 7 2011, 09:23 PM

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yes. can just walk in with cash and buy direct.


in other hand, does anyone here knows any uob with 1oz nugget. raja laut out of both nugget n maple. melaka main still got maple. i'm still looking for nuggets.
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post Sep 7 2011, 09:51 PM

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good chance? it is another chance to ride again.
those who sold uob passbook @ 183, tomorrow can be another re-entry, with price at 1800, we should be looking at 174-ish based on goldprice.org chart.

lock and load
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post Sep 7 2011, 10:23 PM

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u have money for 1kg, no need to bargain.
if u have 500gm can bargain a bit...maybe cheaper a bit

this thread will be quiet around 930am tomorrow hahahhaaha

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post Sep 8 2011, 09:54 PM

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gold bouncing back to usd1859 due to weak us job data. it seemed we'll see UOB rm18x again tomorrow since today closing already rm179, tak sempat load today. come on bernanke give good impact to stock and push the gold a bit brows.gif

bulukorek,

if u go for long term, just buy the cheapest 9999 gold you could get since later you can always sell it as 9999 gold, not based on brands smile.gif
gold is gold as mentioned again and again in this thread. do take your time to read from page 1 smile.gif to get some grasp on owning physical.

buyback as guarantee is not really important here.

wongmunkeong

good comparison there, hence the standard question prophetjul was repeating to anyone, y did u buy gold?

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post Sep 9 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Sep 9 2011, 06:10 PM)
Anyone has Dinar Kelantan or OneAsia Gold to sell?
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lustman, looking for physical ar-rahnu kah?

i was in uob today noon and was negotiating a better rate for gold deposit. too bad it was almost lunch hour so their hq dealer is already out and they unable to quote me special price (said the cashier)

and somehow, i felt something amiss on today rate, uob - rm181/g when world price is around usd1860....maybe USD has gotten stronger due to SwissFranc pegging, thus the higher price translated. cos i remembered last time when it hit usd1910, uob was only at rm185/g.
was negotiating for rm180.50/g since for sure cannot get the 1kg rate 180/g

too much difference and i felt nervous and not comfortable to buy at that standard price. went to watch "nasi lemak 2.0' with wife. it is hilarious and has interesting views on malaysian as malaysian.

who knows after got back home, it dropped back to usd1840!!! phewwwwwww

hong chai,
can use interbank giro or rentas for immediate transfer. no need to carry cash so much lah.

its almost usd1820 now. looking for this to continue and i will definitely wait until UOB open on monday thumbup.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 9 2011, 08:28 PM

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i go uob melaka lah cos i'm in melaka.

here still got 1oz maple and just reconfirmed with the head cashier, they still will accept opened maple as long no dent/scratch/weight loss > means it is still 'ar-Rahnu'able laugh.gif

rentas can read here
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1014248/+40#entry38621327

actually it is similar to meps interbank/fpx , reading further - better use meps ibg lah or ask the bank what is the fastest interbank transfer.
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post Sep 9 2011, 09:22 PM

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nvm lo, if the price goes up , i.e > RM180 then no trade - no loss for now smile.gif

if an investment makes u unable to sleep well at night, then it is not for u.

buy physical and you can have gold dream every night brows.gif
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QUOTE(lustman @ Sep 9 2011, 10:04 PM)
i want to keep some dinar KGT for myself and in the meantime ar-rahnu them as well. actually i've been longing for some time but now it seem they're out of stock.

only dinat kgt and oneasia gold are approved by BNM. honestly i don't understand by "approved". are other dinars no value? no i don't think so.
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for dinar kelantan / kgt i think you can get from nubex. was there on tuesday and saw this ustaz was collecting almost 100dinar rolleyes.gif

it is not really BNM approval, its bank rakyat's policy to prevent abuse of ar-rahnu. try calling nubex, they are open on tuesday at damansara perdana
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post Sep 11 2011, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Sep 11 2011, 10:22 PM)
how can you be poor as you can afford 2g  doh.gif

don't be modest, bro
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tak apa, dia sikit2 lama lama jadi gold bar hahahahhahaa, got saving already good rite...rather than no saving or negative saving laugh.gif

my first encounter with gold was via e-gold - usd470 / oz. those 12dailypro days. during that time, you can even request e-gold to withdraw physical at UK.
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post Sep 13 2011, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(Quinn @ Sep 13 2011, 08:02 AM)
Chikou bounce off kumo with strong reversal candle.
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Quinn, thanks for the chart update. i'm planning to load up this morning after seeing the chart @5am, but asian market is already pushing up the price...most probably today UOB sells 178.x

its hard for ciput investor to catch the low price , since the reversal happened end of asian market where banks closed off already hehehehe, might consider itrader lah like this to play paper gold.

bigwolf,
imho usd values goes up cos people are running away from CHF and EUR to USD. could be also like kitco news, most sellers are cutting some of their long position to cover losses.

come gold, maintain below 1820 this morning please icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

hmph, market buying on dips...

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