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 FD rates in Malaysia, Which bank offer the highest FD rates?

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Jean72
post Jun 16 2008, 12:31 AM

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[quote=yewkhuay,Jun 16 2008, 12:25 AM]
perhaps put in foreign FD can give much more diff.
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Putting in foreign FD do attract more interest, for eg, NZ FD gives you close to 9% a year. However, do take note on the foreign exchange spread when you convert your foreign currency back to RM. It can cost you the whole interest earned

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post Jun 17 2008, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 16 2008, 10:07 AM)
@Jean72,
Are U familiar at all with this 'Dual-Currency Deposit' banks seem to be offering?  Am wondering how that works and should learn up about that; but forex is not something i'm too familiar with and it's quite volatile.  I do foresee RMB to increase though *grins*

Anyhow, back to TS's topic.  Banks have different promotions on FD every month or every 2 months so it's best to just check with the banks personally.  Also, depending on the total amount, U might be able to negotiate with the bank for a little more interest.
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Yes.

Basically Dual currency deposit allow you to choose which currency you want to pack with and you choose a rate, they call it "spot rate" and the local currency is called "based rate" (RM) - I might get the "terms" wrong, but the idea is there. It surely gives higher rate than normal time deposit.

So, let say u choose Sin as the other currency. The market value now is RM 1 = S$ 0.43. And you will allow to choose your preferred exchange rate. Then perhaps you choose RM 1 = S$ 0.46. U can choose your maturity period, let say, 2 weeks or 1 month. Upon the maturity period, if the market rate goes below your chosen rate, for eg, RM 1 = S$ 0.44, then you didn't get to convert. The FD rate will then be paid based on your based rate, which is RM. HOWEVER, if your rate is hit above your chosen rate, let's say RM 1 = S$ 0.48, then you get to convert. Not at S$0.48, but will be converted based on S$ 0.46 (ur chosen rate). Then the FD interest will be paid based on Singapore dollar.

So, is this good or not?

Con, normally they pay a much higher FD interest because you are exposing to foreign exchange loss. Higher risk higher return ma! So normally, ppl who opt for this, they are hoping that they don't get to convert so that they could enjoy higher FD rate that being paid based on their local currency.

However, what if you hit the point and you get converted to the foreign currency that you have no need for? Then likely when you covert back to your home based currecy, you might loss in term of currency exchange. DON"T forget you only get to convert based on your chosen rate and not the actual market rate. Perhaps should put in figure for you to have better understanding:-

Let's say you put in RM 10,000, your chosen currency is S$. So you choose 0.46 being the rate. When due (1 month later), S$ rate drop to RM1 = S$ 0.48. So, you HAVE to convert, but based on 0.46 and not 0.48. You are then given, let say 6% pa rate based on the exchanged currency:-

RM 10,000 * 0.46 = S$ 4,600.00 + 6% p.a interest = S$ 4623

If you needed convert back to RM , since S$ is of no use to you, so:-

S$ 4623 / 0.48 (the actual market rate) = RM 9631.25. See, you actually loss money!


This is very good if you do actually need to foreign currency, perhaps for overseas investment, perhaps for study loan...bra bra bra. But if you don't, you need to worry about the potential currency loss even the offered rate can be attractive by looking at it

Do check with the bank in details. The above is as per my understanding!









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post Jun 17 2008, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 17 2008, 11:47 AM)
@Jean72,
That sure was a lengthy explanation but that's probably the gist of it.  I ain't interested in dual currency FD for now so will find out more onli when I need to use it smile.gif  But thanks anyways smile.gif
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haha..have to. Is hard to explain it in short sentances.

Is can get quite confusion over the potential foreign currency loss...so, got to explain nicely. In case I bring you to holland ma....smile.gif
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post Jun 17 2008, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 17 2008, 02:35 PM)
@Jean72,
If U do bring me to holland, I'll make sure I don't get U holland potatoes; instead I get U Holland Windmills `k?  tongue.gif
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Ok. I got you thumbup.gif
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post Jun 17 2008, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 17 2008, 03:48 PM)
Is blar blar blar lah, not bra bra bra, <--- otherwise people think 'senget' already. Haha, just joking.  laugh.gif

To add a point,

For those want to invest in DCI, mostly people already opt for to keep foreign currency FD one in the first place, so any converted currency is kept in foreign currency account/FD to take advantage of the higher yield compared to RM. That's why AUD and NZD are two most popular at the moment.

It is plain not wise to convert back as your case mentioned. If one doesn't intend to keep the foreign currency (if converted), then DCI is not a very good place to play with.

Nowadays, foreign currency FD is quite popular as people see it a way to diversify their asset particularly hedge against RM risk.
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biggrin.gif thanks for the correction!

That's precisely wat i tell to say, if one have no intention to keep the foreign currency, then DCI can be risk.

It is advisable to go check with the respective bank on the terms and conditions before invest.
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post Jun 17 2008, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 17 2008, 03:50 PM)
@cherroy,
A lot of people are into it also because banks are promoting it pretty heavily.
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Tinkerbel, you are right. Bank officer might not necessary share with you all the details. I have a friend (in Singapore), losing money after converting. Best part was, she can't figure out why she loses since she is paid much higher interest as compared to normal time deposit.
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post Jun 17 2008, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 17 2008, 04:03 PM)
Yes, no doubt about it.
But I still see it is one of the good option for investment mainly because I did suffer because RM depreciation in 1997 crisis. A lot of people experienced the pain of 1997 will be more towards to hedge against RM risk which prior 1997, people have no awareness of it.

I don't see RM is or will be a strong currency for near future unless gov improve their budget deficit situation and sort out economy problems. Don't get me wrong, I don't said or see Rm will collapse either, just for diverisification purpose and spread the risk.
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Is always a good idea to check with the bank in details...for eg, once it is matured, can you opt to roll it with the converted foreign currency? keep it in the bank by opening a foreign currency acc? or simply take out the cash in foreign currency.

It might sound silly to ask these questions..but is better to have clear understanding

To me, all investments are meant for good. We only need to know the pro and con and see are they suited to our investment objective
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post Jun 17 2008, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 17 2008, 04:53 PM)
Yes, those converted currency can be put in Foreign currency FD account, for sure. You can also get or buy a remittance from the currency (for those want to send it to overseas), or if you wish to put in other banks forex account.
Nobody or less people want to take as cash, because normally for DCI minimum amount is 250K (for most banks), so you want to take 250k in cash?  tongue.gif  smile.gif
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In singapore, Standard Chartered, you can start as min as S$25k if i am not wrong. and hey, when i said cash, i meant put in current acc, not taking out as cash la blush.gif

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