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 FD rates in Malaysia, Which bank offer the highest FD rates?

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post Oct 1 2011, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 1 2011, 01:57 PM)
just opened the SCB eSaver to take advantage of the 5% p.a. Offer. The food at Puchong branch is so-so only.

as long as you don't touch money deposited within Oct to Dec, you will get 5% similar to FD. brows.gif
The ATM debit card is OPTIONAL.

SCB Puchong branch wont take big cash deposit, as lack of security. All SCB will open every Sat for these promo.
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then have to use cheque ?
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QUOTE(kwokwah @ Oct 1 2011, 05:04 PM)
SC T&C requires a min of "ADB" of 3K throughout Oct (31 days). It means that if you deposit 3K on 1/10/11 and maintain it for 31 days,it's OK. If you open the account on 11/10/11 then you need 4.4286K. That is 4.4286 x 21/31=3. If you open the ac on 31/10/11 and it'll be 93K. Wah lau !

Better be quick if you want to take advantage of the promo.
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Most (if not all) people who wants to earn 5% interest will deposit more than RM3000 into this promotion account.

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post Oct 1 2011, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Oct 1 2011, 05:49 PM)
then have to use cheque ?
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Cheque, Banker's Cheque will be accepted.
Some rich uncle/auntie likes to bring in loads of cash... drool.gif drool.gif
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post Oct 1 2011, 11:02 PM

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open a Saadig $aver-i today 1/10/11 with a cheque deposit, according to the guy who help us with the opening of account, the deposit is counted as of today and not when the cheque is cleared. Wonder how true is this?


Added on October 1, 2011, 11:07 pm
QUOTE(kwokwah @ Oct 1 2011, 05:04 PM)
SC T&C requires a min of "ADB" of 3K throughout Oct (31 days). It means that if you deposit 3K on 1/10/11 and maintain it for 31 days,it's OK. If you open the account on 11/10/11 then you need 4.4286K. That is 4.4286 x 21/31=3. If you open the ac on 31/10/11 and it'll be 93K. Wah lau !

Better be quick if you want to take advantage of the promo.
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That's not how it works. As long as your ADB is >=3k you will enjoy the 5% bonus. Please look at the formula in the T&C.

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 1 2011, 11:02 PM)
open a Saadig $aver-i today 1/10/11 with a cheque deposit, according to the guy who help us with the opening of account, the deposit is counted as of today and not when the cheque is cleared. Wonder how true is this?


Added on October 1, 2011, 11:07 pm
That's not how it works. As long as your ADB is >=3k you will enjoy the 5% bonus. Please look at the formula in the T&C.
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Take that info with a pinch of salt...
The cheque would clear on 3 Oct 2011.
The funds will be available to you on 4th/5th October onwards.


Added on October 1, 2011, 11:26 pm
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Example from the T&C
Ms B opens her account on 22 October 2011.
The total of day-end balances in her account in October 2011 is RM150,000.
Ms B's account has been open for 10 days in October 2011.
The ADB in that account for October 2011 = [RM150000] / 10 days = RM15000.

For November 2011, the total of day-end balances in that account is RM200,000. There are 30 days in November. The ADB in that account for November 2011 = RM200,000 / 30 days = RM6,666.66


I open the account on 1 Oct 2011 and the cheque clears on 3 Oct 2011, the ADB for Oct 2011 will be 93.55% less. Subsequent months will be OK (if we don't withdraw/add funds)

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The eSaver account Bonus Payments rate = 5% p.a. – effective interest rate p.a. on that account

If your balance < RM100k, the effective interest rate is 0.6%
Bonus Payment rate = 4.4%

It's not 0.6% + 5% .... Beware !!!! vmad.gif

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4. Eligible Customers will enjoy a total special interest of 5% p.a. on the amounts in their Promotion Accounts which satisfy the conditions set out below, for the months of October, November and December 2011 ("Bonus Period"). This special interest consists of bonus interest ("Bonus Payments") plus interest at the effective interest rate then applicable to the Promotion Account.
  i.e. Bonus Payments rate = 5% p.a. – effective interest rate p.a. on that account
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The bank isn't going to use the ADB to calculate our Interest right?
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post Oct 2 2011, 09:49 AM

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It's daily interest based on 5% pa. You can open the account with an ADB of 3K during promo month of Oct 2011. Interest given above the normal interest rate (like 0.6%) is term as "bonus".

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QUOTE(lkcheng @ Oct 2 2011, 09:40 AM)
The bank isn't going to use the ADB to calculate our Interest right?
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The Bonus Payment interest (aka 5%) is based on Average Daily Balance (ADB) right after end of the month.
That's why SCB needs 3 working days before they credit the Bonus Payment.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 1 2011, 11:32 PM)
The eSaver account Bonus Payments rate = 5% p.a. – effective interest rate p.a. on that account

If your balance < RM100k, the effective interest rate is 0.6%
Bonus Payment rate = 4.4%

It's not 0.6% + 5% .... Beware !!!!  vmad.gif
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This SCB promo got a lot "conditions" unlike Citibank previous offer where there give you extra 5.5% on top of 0.35% from savings account making it total 5.85%. And you get this promotional rate for 3 months flat immaterial on which day you open the account as long as it is within the promotion period.

As for the ADB thingy, no wonder someone earlier mentioned that SCB rep told him better to open the account on 1st October. SCB very tricky.

Ronnie:

So if I were to only deposit RM3K by cheque on 1st October (Sat) and the cheque clears on 4th (Tues) earliest it means I cannot get 5% interest. I work out if I got RM10K only, last day for me to open an account is on 19th October (Wed) so that the cheque can be cleared on 21st October 2011(Friday).

ADB = RM10,000 x 10days (21st to 31st Oct)/31days = RM3225.806

Is this correct?

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 1 2011, 02:41 PM)
currently no banks offering 5% interest.
Wah, first time I hear Bank don't want accept cash. Must be the chief cashier on leave.

If you add money into account in November and December, the amount also gets interest 5% right?

Anyway I also found out that besides the E$aver account, the Islamic Savings Account also entitled to the 5%. As for the Salary Savings account, have to top up RM1K every month. So you can have 3 account earning 5% interest.

Not only that, SCB can offer FD higher than 3.6% for 12 months.
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Currently I have a saadiq$aver-i, does it mean I can participate this 5% promo without open any new account?
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 2 2011, 11:06 AM)
The Bonus Payment interest (aka 5%) is based on Average Daily Balance (ADB) right after end of the month.
That's why SCB needs 3 working days before they credit the Bonus Payment.
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It seem complicated their interest calculation. Say if I open account on 1 Oct and bank-in cash RM10,000 on the same day. So the interest will be $10,000 x 5% x 3/12 = $125?

What if I bank-in cash $10k on 1 Oct and then bank-in another $10k after two days which is 3 Oct and let the total $20k sit on the account until the promotion period end which is 1 Jan 2012, how much the interest will be?


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QUOTE(ubuntu @ Oct 2 2011, 11:28 AM)
Currently I have a saadiq$aver-i, does it mean I can participate this 5% promo without open any new account?
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Yes, I think you got to top up RM3K but not sure how it works with the Average Daily Balance thingy. Go talk to SCB to get the accurate info.

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 2 2011, 11:09 AM)
Ronnie:

So if I were to only deposit RM3K by cheque on 1st October (Sat) and the cheque clears on 4th (Tues) earliest it means I cannot get 5% interest. I work out if I got RM10K only, last day for me to open an account is on 19th October (Wed) so that the cheque can be cleared on 21st October 2011(Friday).

ADB = RM10,000 x 10days (21st to 31st Oct)/31days = RM3225.806

Is this correct?
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Not right.
19th to 31st Oct = 13 days

19 Oct Day-End Balance : RM0.00
20 Oct Day-End Balance : RM0.00
21 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
22 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
23 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
24 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
25 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
26 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
27 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
28 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
29 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
30 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
31 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00

Total Day-End Balance from 19-31 Oct = RM110000
ADB = RM110000 / 13 days = RM8461.54

* This calculation only for accounts opened from 1 Oct 2011 only *
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QUOTE(lkcheng @ Oct 2 2011, 11:44 AM)
It seem complicated their interest calculation. Say if I open account on 1 Oct and bank-in cash RM10,000 on the same day. So the interest will be $10,000 x 5% x 3/12 = $125?
Yes. Approx RM125 for the WHOLE promotion period.
The actual calculation should be based on number of days, not number of months

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 2 2011, 11:58 AM)
Yes. Approx RM125 for the WHOLE promotion period.
The actual calculation should be based on number of days, not number of months
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OK thanks for the explanation.

I also understood now the ADB calculation now after reading the formula posted by Ronnie. The ADB was fair and using it to calculate the interest will give you what you suppose to get.




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post Oct 2 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Sep 30 2011, 06:34 PM)
SCB

Went to see SCB officer, this is the info. for new account holder, i asked only for new account.

Starting 1/Oct, open e$aver account or supersalary(?) account, with minimum of RM3000,
you will enjoy 5% interest.

condition is you must maintain RM3000. (average daily balance)
interest is calculated daily (logical coz you may add or withdraw any day between 1/Oct to 31/Dec2011, see scenario B)

Example

Scenario A
1/Oct I put in RM 10,000.
the interest is RM 10,000 x 0.05/365 = 1.370 per day
no withdrawal in Oct.
then the interest I earned is RM 1.370 x 31 = RM 42.47 (Oct interest)
no withdrawal in Nov
then the nov interest is RM 1.37 x 30 = RM 41.10
Oct plus Nov interest earned = RM 83.57

Scenario B
If 1/Oct -31/Oct, balance is RM 10, 000 but on 15/nov, deposit RM 3000
then
1/Nov- 14.Nov, interest earned RM 1.37 x 14 days = RM19.18

15/Nov interest for that day RM 13,000 x 0.05/365 = RM 1.78
meaning
15/Nov to 30/Nov, interest earned RM 1.78 x 16 days = RM28.48
Oct plus Nov interest earned = 42.47 + 19.18 + 28.48 = RM 90.13
account can be closed after 31/Dec/2011
no need ATM card unless you want to pay RM8 per year
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Opened esaver account on 1/Oct (sat), STD Chartered should have opened up one counter to let customer bank in the money. Those bank in cash money has to deposit the money into the cash deposit machine.


Added on October 2, 2011, 1:02 pm
QUOTE(kwokwah @ Oct 1 2011, 05:04 PM)
SC T&C requires a min of "ADB" of 3K throughout Oct (31 days). It means that if you deposit 3K on 1/10/11 and maintain it for 31 days,it's OK. If you open the account on 11/10/11 then you need 4.4286K. That is 4.4286 x 21/31=3. If you open the ac on 31/10/11 and it'll be 93K. Wah lau !

Better be quick if you want to take advantage of the promo.
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just treat it as FD or it is simply a Saving account where you can withdraw or take out money but the minimum balance must be RM3000. Interest is calculated daily based on the average daily balance.

Back to your example,

"if you deposit 3K on 1/10/11 and maintain it for 31 days,it's OK." - that is clear RM 3000 x (0.05/365) x 31 days = RM 12.74

"If you open the account on 11/10/11 then you need 4.4286K", that is misleading

Actual
If you open on 11/10/11, the interest you earned is

RM3000 x (0.05/365) x 21 days = RM 8.63 for Oct interest


" If you open the ac on 31/10/11 and it'll be 93K., that is misleading"

Actual
If you open the ac on 31/10/11, interest = RM 3000 x (0.05/365) x 1 day = RM 0.41 for Oct interest


Added on October 2, 2011, 1:07 pm
QUOTE(ResQ @ Oct 1 2011, 02:02 PM)
let say i deposit rm3k, for three month i will only get rm37++ rite? izzit consider high compared to other bank?
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of course it is high compare to other bank, that is why making the FD Forum active for now rclxms.gif


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I think the T&C is very clear about the "ADB" requirement. If you don't satisfy the 3K ADB during promo period (OCT) you are not eligible for the bonus interest (the diff of 5% abv normal interest).


http://www.standardchartered.com.my/person...rpromo/tnc.html



6.1
“ADB” means the average daily balance in an account or accounts in a calendar month. ADB is calculated as follows:
For accounts opened in October 2011

ADB in October = Total of day-end balances in the account from account opening
date to end of October
Number of days for which the account was open in October

ADB in November or December = Total of day-end balances in the account every day in that month
Number of days in that month
Example

Ms B opens her account on 22 October 2011. The total of day-end balances in her account in October 2011 is RM150,000. Ms B's account has been open for 10 days in October 2011. The ADB in that account forOctober 2011 = RM150000] / 10 days = RM15000.
For November 2011, the total of day-end balances in that account is RM200,000. There are 30 days in November. The ADB in that account for November 2011 = RM200,000 / 30 days = RM6,666.66


8.2 To be eligible for Bonus Payments in any month of the Bonus Period:

(a) a New Customer must have an ADB of at least RM3,000 in their Promotion Accounts during the Promotion Period. Customers who do not satisfy that minimum ADB criteria will not be eligible for any Bonus Payments in that account even if they achieve a higher ADB in later months; and
(b) the ADB in the Promotion Account in that month must also be at least RM3,000.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 2 2011, 11:56 AM)
Not right.
19th to 31st Oct = 13 days

19 Oct Day-End Balance : RM0.00
20 Oct Day-End Balance : RM0.00
21 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
22 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
23 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
24 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
25 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
26 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
27 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
28 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
29 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
30 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00
31 Oct Day-End Balance : RM10000.00

Total Day-End Balance from 19-31 Oct = RM110000
ADB = RM110000 / 13 days = RM8461.54

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QUOTE(kwokwah @ Oct 2 2011, 03:49 PM)
http://www.standardchartered.com.my/person...rpromo/tnc.html

6.1
“ADB” means the average daily balance in an account or accounts in a calendar month. ADB is calculated as follows:
  For accounts opened in October 2011

ADB in October = Total of day-end balances in the account from account opening
date to end of October

Number of days for which the account was open in October

ADB in November or December = Total of day-end balances in the account every day in that month
Number of days in that month
  Example
 
Ms B opens her account on 22 October 2011. The total of day-end balances in her account in October 2011 is RM150,000. Ms B's account has been open for 10 days in October 2011. The ADB in that account forOctober 2011 = RM150000] / 10 days = RM15000.
For November 2011, the total of day-end balances in that account is RM200,000. There are 30 days in November. The ADB in that account for November 2011 = RM200,000 / 30 days = RM6,666.66
8.2 To be eligible for Bonus Payments in any month of the Bonus Period:
 
(a) a New Customer must have an ADB of at least RM3,000 in their Promotion Accounts during the Promotion Period. Customers who do not satisfy that minimum ADB criteria will not be eligible for any Bonus Payments in that account even if they achieve a higher ADB in later months; and
(b) the ADB in the Promotion Account in that month must also be at least RM3,000.
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If you bank in a 3K cheque on 1/10/11 and gets credited on 4/10/11 (keep constant for 1 month) your ADB is technically <3K and not eligible for "bonus" interest. This is a very important point to consider.

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