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 FD rates in Malaysia, Which bank offer the highest FD rates?

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post May 13 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(KenYoung @ May 13 2011, 03:56 PM)
guys, i got a question.. lets say i lock down a big sum of money in FD for a period. longest i think would be 36 months is it?

then if lets say i lock down at 3.5% when i enter and sign it on longest period. lets say if next year, got movements in the interest rate... will i follow the trend or follow back 3.5%?

Sorry for coming up with such a rather 'shallow' question.
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Longest can be up to 60 months.

The rate is fixed at that time you deposited.
Even interest rate already going up to 10%, you still get 3.5%.
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post May 13 2011, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ May 13 2011, 04:27 PM)
Alliance Bank has 3 different rates for conventional FD on its website:

Counter Rate (% p.a.) 
2nd Tier Rate (% p.a.)(for Individual) 
2nd Tier Rate (% p.a.)(for non Individual)

WTA what is the difference.
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Counter rate, for ordinary person <1 million total deposit (or some called tier 1)

2nd tier - customers with >1 million deposit on the particular bank.

Non-individual - deposit under company name, trustee fund etc.
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post May 14 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ May 14 2011, 12:57 PM)
WTA if I uplift my FD on day of maturity, do I get penalty?

I.e. mature 17/5/2011 and I go bank and uplift.
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No interest is given.
No penalty on your principal amount, only interest.

While depended on the tenure, and rules set (as some FD is under promotion rate which may vary from standard premature withdrawal issue), some interest may be given up to x period while some are not.
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post May 17 2011, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(stanny @ May 17 2011, 08:44 PM)
My public bank FD is set for auto renew every month, but when it's renew today, it's still at 2.75%. Any idea?
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3% now.
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post May 18 2011, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(viviane90 @ May 18 2011, 02:29 PM)
keep in FD why not keep in investment linked company? can protect your life and more interest
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Please do not link insurance with FD.
It never the same.



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post May 21 2011, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ May 21 2011, 05:01 PM)
I got a question:

When stock market crash, interest rate of FD will be higher, right?
Let say, someone buys FD during market crash time, enjoy 7% of interest per year, does this 7% of interest rate apply to upcoming years despite market has recovered?
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Wrong.

Interest rate is not depended by stock market.

Interest rate level is determined by central bank due to economy environment.

In fact, stock market crash or flying to sky is not affecting the decision on interest rate.

But it is the other way round, if interest rate is too high, it can crash the stock market.


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post May 22 2011, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ May 21 2011, 06:29 PM)
Correct me if i'm mistaken, generally i've found that:

With low interest rate (assuming managing low inflation):
Equities do very well
Bonds do better than FD

With mid interest rate (assuming managing mid inflation):
Equities do better than Bonds
Bonds and FD near equal

With high interest rate (assuming managing high inflation):
Equities does bad except for commodities
Bonds do worse than FD

Sorry but i'm not a gold bug. Personally, it's just another form of $ - i'm more interested in Assets that generate $, thus perhaps it can fit into one of the asset classes (commodities/metals?).
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Not that 100% right, although one may find general it is the case. smile.gif

First of all, we must understand, a level of interest rate is due to economy situation and central banks stand on the situation.
Even on high inflation situation, central bank can be very hawkish or just take a mild stand on it. So outcome of equities can be different, even though you have same inflation situation.

Equities generally doing well if situation favourable, as it is being exposed to higher risk.
Equities risk is not only economy or interest rate, equities also being exposed to mis-management, specific uncompetitive a particular industry or particular listed company, fraud etc.

You can have low interest rate environment which in theory equities should do well, but you can make a loss in equities market, due to specific issue happen on equities market, or specific listed company.

FD exposure is the lowest, it will get you low return, no matter how economy situation, most of the time, it won't able to outperform.
Bond is the mid exposure, it generally provide a little better than FD, if situation is stable or ok.
Equities is the one can yield good return, but high to risk exposure.

Each period of economy has different kind of situation, and different central bank, or different central bank controlling management group may have different approach.
Interest level low or high has lot of influence factor.
While equities, bond and FD is the receiving end of those policy, and equities is reacting to economy situation, instead of interest rate, although interest rate does have some influence on equities, just it is not as big as economy.

I hope it clears the concept.
Equities is all about economy. (Equities can boom with high interest rate as well, just like KLSE had super bull run eventhoug interest rate level was 6-8% during early 90's)
Bond is all about interest rate environment.
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post May 22 2011, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ May 22 2011, 05:59 PM)
I see. Now I understood. Thanks!

Then how come the people rushed to buy FD end of year 2008 since the rate only sustain for short period of time? Just to earn the additional few percent of interest?
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A few % is big different if for those significant amount.
We have hundreds of billion FD in banking system.
1% difference for 1 million is already 10k pa.
Hundred of billion FD means a billion extra interest can be earned with just 1% rate difference

QUOTE(David83 @ May 22 2011, 06:10 PM)
With the current FD rate, the return could easily be eaten up by inflation even though the government is reporting an officially low figure. Everybody knows that the figure doesn't really reflect the true scenario of inflation in the market.
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Yes,
but it is little choice and option for them.
No matter how, FD is still needed and big part of most people saving.

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post Jun 7 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(kailc @ Jun 7 2011, 10:04 AM)
How come on UOB website , it show 12 months 3.1%  ??
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3.1% is normal board rate.

3.7% is the promotion rate for 1 years with condition min 25k and fresh fund, until the promotion ended.

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post Jun 7 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 7 2011, 04:05 PM)
This morning I called my UOB RM and asked if my children need to go to the branch in order to open FD account and was told yes since they have to sign docs too. So took 2 of them to UOB during lunch time and the PB teller asked me if my RM have gotten approval in order for me to open FD with them! I was told that UOB do not generally open account with children's name. This is news to me. Anyway, since I was there already, the PB teller made a call to her superior and then proceeded to open the FD account with my children's name. She will have to email her boss and seek approval. 

Wah, first time I heard banks don't want to accept deposit.
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Under 18 is not yet a legal age to open an account.
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post Jun 8 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(eucalyptol @ Jun 7 2011, 09:18 PM)
Website not updated one....... though it was advertised in print ads.
Call their CS or walk-in to inquire about this promo.
Promo till end july i think.......
min 25k
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If not mistaken, stated until end of June.


Added on June 8, 2011, 3:06 pm
QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 7 2011, 05:56 PM)
All my children have account from age 1 at HLB, of course my name will appear first. I can go to any HLB branch and just bring along my children IC or Birth Cert to open joint account with their name and they don't have to be present. Same for AMBank. When I was young, I had my own passbook and FD joint with my mother at SCB. And I even had the bunny coin box, hahaha. Actually, HLB Children Saving Account is pretty good with monthly interest credited and present rate 2.65% but presently the Junior FD promotion needs new funds and need to deposit X amount into savings. So withdrew my children FD and go deposit at UOB to get 3.7%.

What I am trying to say is, UOB do not generally allows you to open a joint account with children's name.
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Those children name is appeared for no purpose only if it is for ordinary account. (I might be wrong).
They (children) have no control over the account, cannot withdraw, cannot do anything.

No matter how, a legal account owner must be 18 above.

Even you are joint name with your mom when child time (<18), you are not the account holder, but your mom is.





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post Jun 8 2011, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 8 2011, 05:37 PM)
I think there is a difference having a child's name in the account should something happen to the adult. It's like we holding the money in trust for them.

To say that the children cannot withdraw money from their account is not entirely correct. Nowadays children have Debit Cards, my daughter 10 years old got her own Debit Card from HLB because she has a Junior SA and FD, and she can so and buy stuff from merchants and even do online transaction i.e. iTunes app for her iPad.
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I am talking on ordinary acc which you previous raised on the issue bank didn't allow children name being included. smile.gif

Those junior acc is different aspect, while those junior acc, the actual acc holders is still the parent (that you need to open the junior acc one).

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post Jun 8 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 8 2011, 05:52 PM)
and I was talking about UOB not wanting children business like our local banks smile.gif The thing with UOB is that you can open an account with your child's name BUT you got to seek prior approval from their management. UOB did allow me to open the FD account under my children name, because I was already there in the bank with my children (my RM told me they have to be present) and maybe because I got PB status with them. And you know what, my children actually had to sign on the same documents I signed to open a new account and they also had to sign on the a signature specimen card  rclxub.gif
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ok.

But still I find no point to put FD with children name. smile.gif

A better will writing and estate planning, will mean the FD will belong to them if anything happen a person.
While if the child is below 18, once anything happened on the account holder, the children cannot do anything on the account. smile.gif
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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Jun 16 2011, 05:30 PM)
interest rate you can earn from insurance is much higher than you can earn in FD
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Big big misleading statement. shakehead.gif

Those published x% or xx%, is cash back, not interest rate.


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post Jun 17 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Jun 17 2011, 10:19 AM)
i am newbie in this. correct me if i was wrong. for life insurance, the cash bonus rate p.a you can get min is 5% depend on the insurance company performance on that year.
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There is not such thing of guaranteed cash bonus of 5% based on your premium paid.

5% based on what?
Sum insured?
Accumulated cash value of the policy?
cash back?

If there is guaranteed cash bonus of 5% based on your accumulated premium paid, there will be lot of bank FD being withdrawn.


Added on June 17, 2011, 1:28 pmWe have one calculation (just an example, not meant specific which is good or not good) done by forumer, please have a read, before make a statement insurance can get you 5% interest rate. smile.gif
or better than FD.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1231190/+20

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post Jun 17 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ Jun 17 2011, 02:16 PM)
As a reader, I am glad gerrardling brought up the "insurance" thing and forumers for correcting him. I also rclxub.gif when come to insurance savings schemes.

There was a salesman in UOB Bank promoting to me the Bijak Malaysia insurance scheme, me nearly bought it thinking it was better than FD.
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Any insurance is long term commitment, some life-time commitment (like those whole life one)

Please always ensure one understand what is about, as it is long term commitment.
Premature cancellation can mean loss significant of the premium.

If insurance beat FD by miles, you won't see people put in FD already.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 19 2011, 04:36 AM)
I actually heard of interest higher than bank from Insurance policies. That's is saving policy lar. Not those health insurance you guys buying. Rate around 8%+ , depending on company performance.

Not too sure on the details though.
Anyway, was wondering if there's any bank offering good interest rate for 3 months FD?
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We are all along talking about saving plan.
Those other insurances are burning money, where got give you back any money? smile.gif

Even added up company performance, it is not reaching 8%, which is being given the good scenario, (all saving plan out there got a table, and being regulated by BNM to show both guaranteed and non-guaranteed portion, and npn-guaranteed portion got 2 scenario, one good, one bad, to indicate potential return from non-guaranteed part)
Added up guaranteed and non-guaranteed, it is not reaching 8%.
You can go out there to look for it, calculated carefully. smile.gif
Every insurance agent got carry such a table.
Even forum here, got people posted it up.
Read back the link I posted above few posts. smile.gif

You need to calculated carefully across. Cannot simply pluck a number or a ratio.
x% can be based on sum assured only.
x% can be based on first year premium.
x% can be cash back (mostly published this), as cash back is not yield nor interest rate.

There are simply too many "marketing number" out there.

It is not problem for anyone to find/get a 8%, 10% cash back saving plan.
But it is impossible to get a 8% or 10% net return/interest rate saving plan, for current financial condition.


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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 20 2011, 10:07 AM)
GE agent came and approached the latest savings plan that offers 5% p.a. guaranteed and non-performance guaranteed 4%.

Savings plan is like this:-
RM10k per annum for 10 years. And the end of year 2, you can withdraw the return...

If you made payment for 100k for the whole lump sum, you will get paid FD interest rate at 3.15% on the advanced payment you made for undue instalments.

It comes to my mind that the company is paying 30% commission for their agents on the savings premium.

How could the Co survives with such great commission? In short, the company's cost is already 30% and they must earn more than 30% on the savings premium invested by clients in order to cover the cost...

Mind to elaborate this?
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5% of what?
sum assured?
Premium paid?
Compounded premium paid?
Cash back or interest rate?

Those are different, but still it can be quoted 5%. whistling.gif


Added on June 20, 2011, 2:19 pmYou need to sum up all the money you can get from the insurance for the whole tenure, then doing backward calculation.
Then you will see the whether the 5% is real or not...


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post Jun 20 2011, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jun 20 2011, 09:11 PM)
Thanks for your reply..
I would like to ask..if I want to transfer the FD money from Bank A to Bank B..what method I can use? I don't wish to carry that big amount from Bank A to Bank B  nod.gif
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Giro or Rentas.
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post Jun 27 2011, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(rebirth @ Jun 27 2011, 12:04 AM)
jus wondering whether is there any thread of FD overseas?
which country give highest FD?
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Aud is among the highest 4.75%.

Please use search function on foreign currency FD.
There is existing thread discussed.

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