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post Nov 1 2011, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 23 2011, 04:49 PM)
I have done this arrangement for my previous house's down stair bath. This arrangement requires some hacking of the existing wall tiles and additional piping work. Basically what I did was to hack and connect out the section between the stop cock & the shower outlet.
The water after the stop cock will go into the instant heater's inlet (cold) and then the instant heater's outlet (hot) will connect back to the existing pipe and water will come out from the shower head above.
You can control the water using either the stop cock (ex) or the stop cock on the heater.

For my current ground floor bath, I decided not to do any hacking. Thus I am using the adjustable shower directly from the water heater. Water is still control from the ex stop cock.
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Exactly what I'm planing to do with two of my bathrooms.

How much did that cost U?
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 1 2011, 04:47 PM)
Which method are you referring to?
Anyway, both methods cost very minimal for me. Most of the connection works DIY.
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Inlet and outlet of the instant water heater connected between the outlet of stop cock and inlet of shower head respectively therefore U can use hot shower from the existing shower head and control the temperature of water from the instant water heater.

Hacking on the wall needs to be done, U DIY?
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post Nov 1 2011, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 1 2011, 05:54 PM)
Hacking and reinstate wall tiles get tiler to do la...
Install water heater and the piping reconnection can DIY what.... not rocket science...
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Means get tiler to hack the wall, do the DIY piping works, and then get the tiler to reinstall the tiles?
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post Nov 1 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 1 2011, 08:04 PM)
Do you have spare tiles?
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No sir. Thts y I have put into account the dificulty to get the similar tile, which is another hassle.

Does this job needs to be done by two contractors? I mean plumber and tiler?

I'm really keen of getting this job done, but currently having difficulty to find contractor with good workmanship.
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post Nov 2 2011, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 2 2011, 08:26 AM)
What I did was to hack the tiles and make the modification to the piping. Then get the tiler to reinstate the wall tiles.
BTW, I am not using the cold & hot mixer for this bathroom.


Added on November 2, 2011, 8:30 am
It is to be expected to have the tiles with some slight colour variation. It will depends on how particular on this.  smile.gif
If you can get the right plumber, he may be able to reinstate the few pieces of wall tiles for you. You have to source for the tiles yourself.
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R U refering the cold & hot mixer to shower with two outlet of hot water and cold water? Those typically seen in hotels.

I'll be using only individual instant hot shower system for each of my bathroom, as said it will be joint between the outlet of the stop cock and the inlet of the shower head scured to the concrete wall. Water temperature will be controlled by the thermostat of the water heater.

But how can I find out how is the orientation/layout of those concealed pipings since they cannot bee seen externally? What tools do I need if I choose to DIY?
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post Nov 2 2011, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 2 2011, 07:08 PM)
Grinder + diamond cutter blade, + rotary hammer. If you want to do it fast. And some cement skill, maybe tiling skill if you want to try.

If you don't have the tool, a metal chisel and mid size hammer with lots of patient. I did that to hide my current room a/c wires.
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Wou, seems like many DIY gurus here.

U bought those tools only for this job? I feel like DIY too, but lack of power tools. I only have a electric powered drill.
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post Nov 3 2011, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 3 2011, 08:34 AM)
There is another alternative which does not require the hack the existing wall tiles.
However, you will need to accept the fact of having an exposed piping. This way, all you need is to install the install water heater and make the connections. Can be easily done DIY or get the shop selling you the water heater to install for you.
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Unfortunately, aesthetic is my concern too.
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post Nov 18 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 3 2011, 10:20 PM)
In that case, just get a plumber to reroute the necessary piping. He will hack the necessary wall tiles.
Then get the tiler to replace the wall tiles.

If you place is quite new, should be able to get the wall tiles.
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It's a new property actually. I have actually found exactly the same wall tile. Juz need to find out how much do I need tp pay for this type of work (plumbing and concealing work with installation of tiles, not including the tiles). Any idea?
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post Nov 18 2011, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 18 2011, 01:43 PM)
The work is not much. Plumbing work is just a few hours. Maybe plumber will charge for one day's work.
Tiler's work also not much. Maybe charge also one day's work.
The problem is to get them to do these work. It is now towards the end of year. Most of them will be hard press to finish their work on hand. So, may be reluctant to take on minor jobs.
If you managed to get any, they may change extra....
Anyway, where is your place located? Klang valley?
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The new hse is actually a condo in Sentul.
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post Dec 17 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(kornflake @ Nov 19 2011, 01:44 AM)
anybody who done this setup whr instant heater with conceal piping for the rain shower head, do u face any drop in water pressure?

isit sufficient pressure for the rain shower head without any external water pump?

have anyone done this together with an additional hand shower?
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QUOTE(ableze_joepardy @ Dec 15 2011, 09:48 PM)
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this is what im planning to do.. to conceal inlet & outlet piping of the water heater.. got few questions:

1) does the outlet portion need to be replaced with copper piping?

2) usually the water heater pump will stop if to water flowing right? coz i will use main stop cock only.

3) do i need to place the water heater unit higher than shower head?
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Exactly what I'm going to do to my two bathrooms. Actually the hardest part is not the piping, but the concrete and tiling works since job involves hacking, buying matching tiles, and tile installation which would cause U more than the plumbing work.

I thot no many ppl would want this type of layout, but seems like I'm not alone tongue.gif

Currently having difficulty finding a good tiler.

 

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