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post Nov 1 2011, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 1 2011, 05:54 PM)
Hacking and reinstate wall tiles get tiler to do la...
Install water heater and the piping reconnection can DIY what.... not rocket science...
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Means get tiler to hack the wall, do the DIY piping works, and then get the tiler to reinstall the tiles?
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post Nov 1 2011, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 1 2011, 07:41 PM)
Means get tiler to hack the wall, do the DIY piping works, and then get the tiler to reinstall the tiles?
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Do you have spare tiles?
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post Nov 1 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 1 2011, 08:04 PM)
Do you have spare tiles?
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No sir. Thts y I have put into account the dificulty to get the similar tile, which is another hassle.

Does this job needs to be done by two contractors? I mean plumber and tiler?

I'm really keen of getting this job done, but currently having difficulty to find contractor with good workmanship.
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post Nov 2 2011, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 1 2011, 08:41 PM)
Means get tiler to hack the wall, do the DIY piping works, and then get the tiler to reinstall the tiles?
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What I did was to hack the tiles and make the modification to the piping. Then get the tiler to reinstate the wall tiles.
BTW, I am not using the cold & hot mixer for this bathroom.


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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 1 2011, 11:39 PM)
No sir. Thts y I have put into account the dificulty to get the similar tile, which is another hassle.

Does this job needs to be done by two contractors? I mean plumber and tiler?

I'm really keen of getting this job done, but currently having difficulty to find contractor with good workmanship.
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It is to be expected to have the tiles with some slight colour variation. It will depends on how particular on this. smile.gif
If you can get the right plumber, he may be able to reinstate the few pieces of wall tiles for you. You have to source for the tiles yourself.


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post Nov 2 2011, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 2 2011, 08:26 AM)
What I did was to hack the tiles and make the modification to the piping. Then get the tiler to reinstate the wall tiles.
BTW, I am not using the cold & hot mixer for this bathroom.


Added on November 2, 2011, 8:30 am
It is to be expected to have the tiles with some slight colour variation. It will depends on how particular on this.  smile.gif
If you can get the right plumber, he may be able to reinstate the few pieces of wall tiles for you. You have to source for the tiles yourself.
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R U refering the cold & hot mixer to shower with two outlet of hot water and cold water? Those typically seen in hotels.

I'll be using only individual instant hot shower system for each of my bathroom, as said it will be joint between the outlet of the stop cock and the inlet of the shower head scured to the concrete wall. Water temperature will be controlled by the thermostat of the water heater.

But how can I find out how is the orientation/layout of those concealed pipings since they cannot bee seen externally? What tools do I need if I choose to DIY?
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post Nov 2 2011, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 2 2011, 06:19 PM)
R U refering the cold & hot mixer to shower with two outlet of hot water and cold water? Those typically seen in hotels.

I'll be using only individual instant hot shower system for each of my bathroom, as said it will be joint between the outlet of the stop cock and the inlet of the shower head scured to the concrete wall. Water temperature will be controlled by the thermostat of the water heater.

But how can I find out how is the orientation/layout of those concealed pipings since they cannot bee seen externally? What tools do I need if I choose to DIY?
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Grinder + diamond cutter blade, + rotary hammer. If you want to do it fast. And some cement skill, maybe tiling skill if you want to try.

If you don't have the tool, a metal chisel and mid size hammer with lots of patient. I did that to hide my current room a/c wires.
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post Nov 2 2011, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 2 2011, 07:08 PM)
Grinder + diamond cutter blade, + rotary hammer. If you want to do it fast. And some cement skill, maybe tiling skill if you want to try.

If you don't have the tool, a metal chisel and mid size hammer with lots of patient. I did that to hide my current room a/c wires.
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Wou, seems like many DIY gurus here.

U bought those tools only for this job? I feel like DIY too, but lack of power tools. I only have a electric powered drill.
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post Nov 2 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 2 2011, 07:46 PM)
Wou, seems like many DIY gurus here.

U bought those tools only for this job? I feel like DIY too, but lack of power tools. I only have a electric powered drill.
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Just brought the rotary hammer, got a china grinder. Going to buy a variable speed grinder to polish my concrete top.
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post Nov 2 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 2 2011, 07:19 PM)
R U refering the cold & hot mixer to shower with two outlet of hot water and cold water? Those typically seen in hotels.

I'll be using only individual instant hot shower system for each of my bathroom, as said it will be joint between the outlet of the stop cock and the inlet of the shower head scured to the concrete wall. Water temperature will be controlled by the thermostat of the water heater.

But how can I find out how is the orientation/layout of those concealed pipings since they cannot bee seen externally? What tools do I need if I choose to DIY?
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Generally the conceal water piping will be in a straight line between the stop cock and the outlet for the shower.
As for the tools, weikee has already elaborate.
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post Nov 3 2011, 08:34 AM

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There is another alternative which does not require the hack the existing wall tiles.
However, you will need to accept the fact of having an exposed piping. This way, all you need is to install the install water heater and make the connections. Can be easily done DIY or get the shop selling you the water heater to install for you.

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post Nov 3 2011, 09:06 AM

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Or runyour piping from the back of your wall, only if that wall is not belong to your neighbour. Just a suggestion.

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post Nov 3 2011, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(lhsmedphy @ Nov 3 2011, 10:06 AM)
Or runyour piping from the back of your wall, only if that wall is not belong to your neighbour. Just a suggestion.
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Assuming that the wall in question is one of your internal walls.
You will still need to hack to access the existing water piping. Doing that already involve damaging the existing bathroom wall tiles. Since you are already at that, it would be easier and lesser disruptive to localise the work within the bathroom only.
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post Nov 3 2011, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 3 2011, 08:34 AM)
There is another alternative which does not require the hack the existing wall tiles.
However, you will need to accept the fact of having an exposed piping. This way, all you need is to install the install water heater and make the connections. Can be easily done DIY or get the shop selling you the water heater to install for you.
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Unfortunately, aesthetic is my concern too.
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post Nov 3 2011, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Nov 3 2011, 11:07 PM)
Unfortunately, aesthetic is my concern too.
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In that case, just get a plumber to reroute the necessary piping. He will hack the necessary wall tiles.
Then get the tiler to replace the wall tiles.

If you place is quite new, should be able to get the wall tiles.
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post Nov 4 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Aug 23 2011, 04:19 PM)
So, if I already have a storage heater with concealed piping and mixer, can I replace it with this unit? My electricity bill is rather high and I have been looking at ways to reduce the bill from heating elements.

p/s : Why is everybody spelling this wrong? It is STOP CORK not STOP COCK blush.gif

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post Nov 4 2011, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(matthewctj @ Nov 4 2011, 12:14 PM)
So, if I already have a storage heater with concealed piping and mixer, can I replace it with this unit? My electricity bill is rather high and I have been looking at ways to reduce the bill from heating elements.

p/s : Why is everybody spelling this wrong? It is STOP CORK not STOP COCK  blush.gif
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Off it when you not using, should be ok. On it few mins before take bath.
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post Nov 4 2011, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(matthewctj @ Nov 4 2011, 01:14 PM)
So, if I already have a storage heater with concealed piping and mixer, can I replace it with this unit? My electricity bill is rather high and I have been looking at ways to reduce the bill from heating elements.

p/s : Why is everybody spelling this wrong? It is STOP CORK not STOP COCK  blush.gif
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Sorry dude... smile.gif

The correct spelling should be STOP COCK, which is is a valve used to restrict or isolate the flow of a liquid or gas through a pipe (refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopcock )

While a stop cork is this
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post Nov 4 2011, 05:07 PM

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Darn it ... and I always thought everyone was being a pervert lol ... *places paper bag over head*
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post Nov 4 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 4 2011, 12:39 PM)
Off it when you not using, should be ok. On it few mins before take bath.
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Storage heater problem is, it boil unneccessary extra hot water if you only have 1-2 person using. That waste power.

Unless you can adjust how many liter you want to boil.

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post Nov 18 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 3 2011, 10:20 PM)
In that case, just get a plumber to reroute the necessary piping. He will hack the necessary wall tiles.
Then get the tiler to replace the wall tiles.

If you place is quite new, should be able to get the wall tiles.
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It's a new property actually. I have actually found exactly the same wall tile. Juz need to find out how much do I need tp pay for this type of work (plumbing and concealing work with installation of tiles, not including the tiles). Any idea?

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