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felixwang
post Aug 28 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 28 2011, 12:37 PM)
Just want to know... my consultant mentioned that if i wanna invest thru DDI, i am required to sign an agreement or somesort like that... is it necessary?

If i top up my fund thru PMO, do my consultant still received their commission?
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As part of the process to engage direct debit investment (DDI), investors will need to sign a "Standing Instruction" or "SI" either via Public Bank or Maybank account. Since Public Mutual offers non-contractual investment scheme, which means you are not obligated to invest consistently even after signing the SI. Rest assure there will be no penalty in case of any default in regular investment.

If you were to sign a SI to your existing unit trust fund account, irregarless where or who you have signed the SI with, the service charge of 5.50% still applies, and the unit trust fund corresponding unit trust consultant (UTC) will still enjoy their commission.

sincerely hope these information helps.
felixwang
post Apr 6 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Apr 6 2012, 03:48 PM)
One of the first rules of Unit Trusts is you don't worry about distributions.

Why? Because you have the same amount of money before distribution, and after distribution.

In other words, it practically makes no difference to the amount of money you have. Because it makes no difference, you don't worry about it.
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smile.gif kindly consult your UTC for a better understanding towards unit trust distribution.
felixwang
post Apr 6 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(syy @ Apr 6 2012, 03:32 PM)
Mine is on loss for about 45%, should I hold or switch?
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smile.gif Do consult your UTC
felixwang
post Apr 6 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Apr 6 2012, 04:15 PM)
There is nothing to consult - what I said was correct.

If you think it's not, let me know where/how?
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There is a reason why distribution is in the unit trust working mechanism. Since you have paid your UTC with your hard earned money, do make every cents count. All you need to do is to arrange an appointment with them. smile.gif
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post Apr 6 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Apr 6 2012, 04:27 PM)
No news from felixwang? Answers like "consult your UTC" are about as useless as they can get.

My UTC can only tell me about new funds. Any other questions outside that, she gives a blank look, and then proceeds to tell me more about the extra 0.5% discount charges or whatever I will get from the new fund.
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felixwang
post Apr 6 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 6 2012, 04:30 PM)
Invest in UT, you never need to look at the distribution.
Distribution is meaningless to investors.
It is all about NAV increment solely.
You only need to watch the NAV movement, got distribution or not, make no different.
Any distribution come from the NAV, whatever gain, profit, dividend received by the fund is already being reflected in NAV increment.
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assuming "distribution" is not important... and assuming you have invested in our oldest fund, Public Savings Fund from day 1, 29th March, 1981 at RM 1.0000/unit with a ONE OFF LUMP SUM investment of RM 100,000. As of yesterday, 5th April, 2012, the PSF NAV/unit is at RM 0.5738, how much do you think you will have with Public Mutual as of yesterday based on your investment 31 years ago?
felixwang
post Apr 6 2012, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 6 2012, 05:27 PM)
If there is no distribution, the NAV will be at elevated level/price.

The net worth of owning the PSF without distribution (a elevated NAV without distribution) = net worth of distribution accumulated + current NAV.


Added on April 6, 2012, 5:30 pmAs consultant, please at least give some advice on fellow forumer enquiry.

As a consultant, what you can post is "please consult your UTC"?
As a consultant, you are asking me back question, tell me to provide details of the fund, when I am noob in unit trust, nor a person in this industry?
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3 reasons,

a. I am asking the question because, with great confidence, you guys have given an alternate answer to unit trust "distribution" based on very little knowledge in unit trust. Eventhough your intention means well, but it is not advisable to provide answers or advises to others when you are not a licensed UTC. More often than not, you will do more damages than good. Hence, I have requested you guys to consult your licensed UTC about your conclusion towards UT distribution.

b. In the case where your UTC is not able to provide you with a satisfactory answer, unless the UTC you are attached with right now is your relatives or loves one, I do not see the reason why you should continue to engage his/her services if he/she is incompetant.

c. To invest in UT, is similar to engaging a professional to managing and growing your asset. If you are doing this on your own, why would you be paying your UTC of such high service charge? Are you aware that your UTC is getting paid for as long as you stay invested with the Unit Trust Management Company? Yes, we are talking about a perpetually paid commission on a monthly basis on your expences when you are the one who are doing all the hard work based on your own limited knowledges.

Well, I am the one who is supposed to ask you "what are you doing?" instead of the otherway around. smile.gif


Added on April 6, 2012, 6:29 pm
QUOTE(mypetridish @ Apr 6 2012, 06:02 PM)
guys, the reason felixwang is not answering most questions is that UTCs are not supposed to advertise on the internet. Advertisement include talking about it, including its good and bad.

Things like what kparam77 has done is a big no no and if reported to FIMM he will get his license suspended. He is threading in dangerous waters.

Felixwang is probably an Agency Manager or a Group Agency Manager, he does not need to steal clients since he probably have hundreds of them.

Recruiting online, however, is ok.

What they usually do is have a short private discussion and later on set up an appointment to talk more about it.

Consult your unit trust consultant, or if you need to know more just set up an appointment with them.
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You took the words right out of my mouth, well said!

For those who wishes to learn more about the fundamentals of unit trust, you are welcome to join us as a Unit Trust Consultant. The training will only takes 3-4 weeks, where you will be undergoing UTC Basic Training Program that comes in 5 modules. Become a UTC, start managing your own funds and enjoy more than 50% savings on the service charge!


For more information pertaining to our training, you are welcome to forward me your contact number @ 012 277 1025 and I will be in touch with you asap! I look forward to hearing from you guys!

Thank you and kind regards,

Felix Wang
Agency Manager
Public Mutual Berhad

This post has been edited by felixwang: Apr 6 2012, 06:44 PM
felixwang
post Jun 30 2012, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 30 2012, 11:07 PM)
Actually I'm just curious, why are you guys excited about income distribution from unit trust funds? It's just taking your own money and reinvesting it into new units. Your net wealth doesn't increase a single cent.
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