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milentechie
post Sep 16 2011, 07:58 AM

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How Value Investing Works in Unit Trusts?
Value investing was first introduced by Benjamin Graham and David Dodd in 1928. It has been well-practiced by one of the world most famous investor, the Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway- Warren Buffet. How can investors be like Warren Buffet when comes to unit trust investment? Find out more here.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=1592
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post Sep 16 2011, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(milentechie @ Sep 16 2011, 07:58 AM)
Sharing one article .

How Value Investing Works in Unit Trusts?
Value investing was first introduced by Benjamin Graham and David Dodd in 1928. It has been well-practiced by one of the world most famous investor, the Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway- Warren Buffet. How can investors be like Warren Buffet when comes to unit trust investment? Find out more here.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=1592
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Nice - especially on looking at the fund's underlying theme/benchmark index/stocks.
IMHO, a fund is too convoluted to evaluate value - heck stocks already tough to evaluate, think of a basket of stocks AND U only know these basket of stocks AFTER the fund house prints & send U the quarterly reports! Thus, looking at the fund's underlying theme/benchmark index/stocks is one of the best & fastest way to judge value.

However I suspect they skewed the article for "advertising & marketing" purposes
Note that they showed the UPSIDE potential only in their table, where's the downside potential?
Sorry to nitpick but as a cautious and value investor, methinks one should also look at the down side - like momma says, Look left AND right before crossing the road tongue.gif

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 16 2011, 08:13 AM
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post Sep 16 2011, 09:03 AM

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I had quite some articles for readings as well..


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post Sep 18 2011, 04:50 PM

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post Sep 18 2011, 09:25 PM

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Hi

I'm interested in doing DDI for my equity fund
however can i do a DDI from a bond fund? how much is the service change for a DDI from bond fund to unit trust?

but firstly is that even possible?

my agent recommended me to open a unit trust and a bond fund. so i can transfer money from both funds.
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(bhwx @ Sep 18 2011, 09:25 PM)
Hi

I'm interested in doing DDI for my equity fund
however can i do a DDI from a bond fund? how much is the service change for a DDI from bond fund to unit trust?

but firstly is that even possible?

my agent recommended me to open a unit trust and a bond fund. so i can transfer money from both funds.
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DDI is from your saving account to your unit trust either to be equity/bond/money market fund.

No service charge for DDI.
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:31 PM

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but how about doing DDI from bond fund to equity fund? do i need to pay any fee or something?
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(bhwx @ Sep 18 2011, 09:31 PM)
but how about doing DDI from bond fund to equity fund? do i need to pay any fee or something?
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I never hear of doing DDI between funds in unit trust. Please double confirm with your agent.
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:36 PM

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hmm maybe its not called DDI. she said instead of doing DDI from savings, just transfer money monthly from bond fund to equity.
i cant rmb the benefits already.

but if it acts as normal transaction, i still need to pay rm 25 right?

might as well i do DDI right?
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(bhwx @ Sep 18 2011, 09:36 PM)
hmm maybe its not called DDI. she said instead of doing DDI from savings, just transfer money monthly from bond fund to equity.
i cant rmb the benefits already.

but if it acts as normal transaction, i still need to pay rm 25 right?

might as well i do DDI right?
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Paying RM 25 is called switching not DDI.

Switching is to transfer certain units from one fund to another fund. Basically for investors to lock paper profit or to change portfolio due to change in market momentum.
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:19 PM

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hmmm ok. i guess i just do the normal DDI and not do dollar cost averaging by switching rm 200 from bond to equity

btw what do u mean lock paper profit? smile.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(bhwx @ Sep 18 2011, 10:19 PM)
hmmm ok. i guess i just do the normal DDI and not do dollar cost averaging by switching rm 200 from bond to equity

btw what do u mean lock paper profit? smile.gif
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DCA can be done by frequently topping up into a particular fund such as performing a DDI (every 8th or 18th) or manual top up in monthly basis.

DCA, DDI and switching are totally different concepts. Please understand each of them before doing anything. There's a min amount to adhere before a successful switching can be done. Switching from bond fund to equity fund will also impose 5.5% service charge since the units are low-loaded units.

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Terms and Conditions of Switching
Switching of units is considered a withdrawal/redemption of investment from a fund and an application to purchase units of another fund.
Switching of low-load units of bond/money market funds into equity and balanced funds will be subject to service charge.
Switching of loaded units may incur switching fee (of up to 0.75%) which is deductible from the redemption proceeds. The net proceeds will be processed into the "switch to" accounts based on the NAV per unit at the close of the business day:
For switching request made within 90 days of the date of purchase of units/switching into the fund, a switching fee of:
- 0.75% or minimum RM50 per transaction will be deducted from the redemption proceeds for switching from equity/balanced funds.
- 0.25% or minimum RM50 per transaction will be deducted from the redemption proceeds for switching from bond funds.
- RM50 per transaction will be deducted from the redemption proceeds for switching from money market funds.
For switching request made after 90 days of the date of purchase of units/switching into the fund, a switching fee of RM25 per transaction will be deducted from the redemption proceeds.
For Mutual Gold & Elite Members, the 18 and 30 switching entitlements valued at RM25.00 each can be used to offset switching fees incurred. For eg; if the switching fee incurred is RM75.00, a switching entitlement of RM25.00 can be used to offset the switching fee, thereby unitholder only incurs RM50.00 on this switching transaction.
Switching transacted before 4:00 pm on any business day will be processed based on the closing NAV per unit of the same business day whilst switching transacted after 4:00 pm on any business day will be processed based on NAV per unit of the next business day.
Switching for foreign funds transacted during non-business days of the funds will be processed based on pricing determined at the close of the next business day when both the Switch From and Switch To funds are opened for trading.
Public Mutual reserves the right to reject any switching request that it regards as disruptive to efficient portfolio management; or if deemed by Public Mutual to be contrary to the best interest of the fund. Switching requests which are rejected by Public Mutual would be treated as a redemption of units from a fund and a rejection of application to purchase units in the intended fund. As such, unitholders will receive payment of redemption proceeds in the event of a rejection in switching requests.
For full switching, please advise the bank to cancel your Direct Debit Authorization immediately.
Successful switching transactions will be processed within 2 business days.
Please contact our Hotline 03-6207 5000 should you require further information.


Paper profit is unrealized gain also known as paper gain.

This post has been edited by David83: Sep 18 2011, 10:29 PM
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:49 PM

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hmmm kk noted smile.gif thanks alot mate. great help smile.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:55 PM

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I plan to buy a new equity fund and have a DDI for it. My agent suggest me to buy PUBLIC SOUTH-EAST ASIA SELECT FUND. But, when I check performance of the fund, seems like Total return of the fund since Commencement till end-date is not really good. I know that 1 of reason is, it launch at 2007.

May I have some comment on the fund? Thanks...
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post Sep 18 2011, 11:04 PM

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oh btw is it recommended to take an agent that is provided by the bank itself or outside as in freelance or under another agency?
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post Sep 19 2011, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(caseyhoo @ Sep 18 2011, 10:55 PM)
I plan to buy a new equity fund and have a DDI for it. My agent suggest me to buy PUBLIC SOUTH-EAST ASIA SELECT FUND. But, when I check performance of the fund, seems like Total return of the fund since Commencement till end-date is not really good. I know that 1 of reason is, it launch at 2007.

May I have some comment on the fund? Thanks...
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I have PSEASF and I think its current NAV still above its IPO. Most of offshore funds from PM aren't doing that well. Some even has NAV below 0.2500

PSEASF is investing heavily in Singapore and Indonesia. If you're confident over these countries in the future, then you can consider them.


Added on September 19, 2011, 12:21 am
QUOTE(bhwx @ Sep 18 2011, 11:04 PM)
oh btw is it recommended to take an agent that is provided by the bank itself or outside as in freelance or under another agency?
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Doesn't matter as long as he/she provides you with adequate service and support.

This post has been edited by David83: Sep 19 2011, 12:22 AM
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post Sep 19 2011, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 18 2011, 09:27 PM)
DDI is from your saving account to your unit trust either to be equity/bond/money market fund.

No service charge for DDI.
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I do believe that all DDI or any AI will incurred the same SC 5.5% for equity / 0.25% for bond.

QUOTE(bhwx @ Sep 18 2011, 09:31 PM)
but how about doing DDI from bond fund to equity fund? do i need to pay any fee or something?
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When enter bond fund, you will be charged 0.25% SC, then if you do monthly transfer from bond to equity, there will be another SC of 5.5%.
Make sure you do this by filling up a form of transferring monthly from bond fund to equity fund to avoid switching fees.

This post has been edited by koinibler: Sep 19 2011, 08:49 AM
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post Sep 19 2011, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Sep 19 2011, 08:48 AM)
I do believe that all DDI or any AI will incurred the same SC 5.5% for equity / 0.25% for bond.
When enter bond fund, you will be charged 0.25% SC, then if you do monthly transfer from bond to equity, there will be another SC of 5.5%.
Make sure you do this by filling up a form of transferring monthly from bond fund to equity fund to avoid switching fees.
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The service charge I meant is referring to Public Bank imposes on the DDI; not referring to the 5.5%/0.25% for buying the unit trust.

Your second statement is little confusing. If you're switching low-loaded units, you'll be charged for service charge. Otherwise, only RM 25 switching fee is imposed. Switching in and out is not advisable since you'll be charged RM 25 per switching and needs to meet min amount.

This post has been edited by David83: Sep 19 2011, 08:54 AM
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post Sep 19 2011, 09:13 AM

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Is that any P.M around? Plan to invest some money o it. PM me for discuss
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Market bearish signal triggered..
No rush no rush..

Understanding the market is very important. Entry timing is very important. Enter blindly = KO straight.

If u ask agent, agent sure say good buy, but not knowing it is good bye..

Lolz...

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