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Bonescythe
post Sep 14 2011, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 14 2011, 06:45 PM)
I was thinking first portion around 1300.
2nd-800
3rd-500  sweat.gif

Currently still  70% bond 30% equity though.
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Wah.. Until 500? Need or not oh?


Added on September 14, 2011, 6:54 pm
QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 14 2011, 06:35 PM)
Buy PIX?
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Buy PIX, is the fastest de lo if KLCI up

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post Sep 14 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 14 2011, 07:08 PM)
Maybe prepare a little bit for 500points kua. Unlikely to happen i guess.
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If drop to 500, it will be repeat of 1997, not 2008 already.
That time KLCI 1200 to 200, now 1500 to 500.. 1000 points out of the market.

Coffin shop will be opened 24/7 because there will be a lot of people giving business already, lolz.

I had a few personal friend who is investing with me, now waiting to poach for the good chance. Also same plan, the fund split to 3 part, no DCA in this case.
Once reach 125x, first 33% in.
Then, 1100, another 33%
Below 1000, another 33%

Goes below 800, OD and other financial support tools will come in to hoot..

I believe if he hug this for around 2 years.. Will become half millionaire.
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post Sep 14 2011, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 14 2011, 10:48 PM)
ya,its was proven by some funds. the returns wil higher then EPF over the time.

PM me if u need any guides.  go to EPF scheme in my signature.
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EPF no use already lar.
Those who got EPF, u can opt to cash them out and put them into mutual fund already (But with a condition, invest at the right timing)

The reason I encourage you to cash out EPF is because EPF is being abused by the high ranking people.
EPF is used to fried shares that are held by cronies. Eating up at premium prices. This is very pathetic, because those are our money.

2008 to 2010, market return more than 70% in general, some reaching more than 100%, but what did EPF give u back in return? The latest yield is 5%++.. Don't you think this is pathetic? How they use your money to joke around.

But remember.. Any investment, do not do it in a hastily manner. Timing is important. If you are greedy now, you are going to eat your own greediness only.

Timing is the key.. Remember.
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post Sep 16 2011, 09:03 AM

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I had quite some articles for readings as well..


Articles and Readings
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post Sep 19 2011, 12:29 PM

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Market bearish signal triggered..
No rush no rush..

Understanding the market is very important. Entry timing is very important. Enter blindly = KO straight.

If u ask agent, agent sure say good buy, but not knowing it is good bye..

Lolz...
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post Sep 19 2011, 01:20 PM

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Can.. but do that non stop for 10 years then can see effect.

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post Sep 19 2011, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(bhwx @ Sep 19 2011, 09:17 PM)
hey what do u mean no rush no rush as the bearish signal triggered? then wait for bull?
i thought its better to to open unit trust during bear?
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Yes, good during bears, but not a fresh bear play..
Go on fresh bear = bear's dinner

Go on full and saturated bear = bear's killer moment...

Let the bear eat their meal now.. Don't rush in like other..
Bull will not come in a bang. There will be side way trending before a bull.. Be patient.. Catch the right moment when the bear is almost full.. Then they will go and sleep. That is the time to kill bear


Added on September 19, 2011, 11:40 pm
QUOTE(echoesian @ Sep 19 2011, 11:12 PM)
What is PIX?
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Public Index Fund..

Index related. The index is KLCI.

KLCI got 30 big counters that is used to represent Malaysia economy.
They are big caps counter, with at least 5bil market capital.

PIX invest in all these 30 counters.

Index up, PIX up.. Index down, PIX down..

So fastest to rebound is also PIX counter.

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post Sep 20 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 20 2011, 10:38 AM)
What is the sign for full and saturated bear?
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Share market is like you feasting.
Once python finished feasting, what will python do? Sleep
Bear, once finished munching, will sleep or rest..

So sleep or rest = side way. Not much movement at the bottom. (This is the time we open mouth to hamtam)

Wait for the side way after the big dip..
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 20 2011, 11:06 AM)
Careful not to bite the bear with too big a mouthful wor as another dip may occur within months 'ala 1997 & 1998
Being clawed to death by bear WHILE mouthful of bear fur isnt fun  tongue.gif
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Means attack the wrong bear already lo.
The bear half full, just stop for a while to digest before starting a new munching session..

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post Sep 20 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 20 2011, 11:32 AM)
Oh i get it. Let me give an example. Say KLCI stop moving at 1200points at +-<0.5%. That time we accumulate alot. But what happen if it drop to another level? sit tight ah? Or wanna cut lose again?
That is why I say split it to few stages. Use KLCI as benchmark.
Once reach, example.. 1200, first pump. Probably 33%. Or whatever ratio you would like to do.

QUOTE(mois @ Sep 20 2011, 11:32 AM)
It might be really dangerous if we attack the wrong bear. So better still buying in stages right?
Yea, buying in stages to spread the risk


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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 20 2011, 11:45 AM)
Mois - perhaps we can learn from "Friday the 13th" and other horror shows here. ie
1. When see dead bear, dont assume dead
2. Shoot the damn bear a few times first, preferably head shots, from afar and have the car engine running (ie. put in a % of investment $ and get ready to run/counter)
3. See any "bad" reaction - as in it jumps and tries to run at U?
No? good, go to 4.
Yes? run like hell since U are far enough and have a car already started to outrun it and repeat step 1.
4. Go nearer and chop the bloody bear's head off + burn the carcass, then celebrate (ie. put the some left over % of investment $ in)
5. Watch out for bear's family members coming for revenge! (ie. thus U arent celebrating your smartness until die also dunno what happened)
6. WHEN not IF, the bear's family member comes - repeat step 1. again

Lots of things we can learn from movies hor  tongue.gif
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Wong, I had to agreed I damn like this expression of Bear game here. Hahaha.. Thumbs up for this illustration.

Yeap, when you see a bear, don't finish your ammunition in one bear.. You might be able to kill him for a period, but you won't know if the family, relatives and friends are behind, or surrounding you. If you finish all ammunition at 1 bear, what about the others? Haha. Sure get raped already.

There are a few strategies for different type of investor.

If you do not want to think so much, you can split it to 33% in 3 stages, or 4 stages at 25% each.

But if you are a person who anticipate more fall to come, but at the mean time, you do not want to miss out any chances from the rebound (Just in case), then you might want to allocate your strategy in pumping into the market in a triangle shape.

1st initial pump, 20%.
If goes lower to a certain point, 30%.
Continue to go lower, 50%.

In this manner, you will not miss out if there is a rebound after your 20% cash in.. But at the mean time, you are prepared for it to go lower for more capital flowing in..

Just my 2 cents sharing.


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QUOTE(koinibler @ Sep 20 2011, 07:11 PM)
There's so much to interpret on Mr Wong slay a bear analogy hmm.gif
by "triangle shape" you mean this?;

> 1st initial pump, 20%.
> If goes lower to a certain point, 30%.
> Continue to go lower, 50%.

How you determine a gap between point?

1400
1200
1000 ? Good?
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Own customization.

You can put 1300, 1000, 500..
Don't have a model de lar.. Depends on your own appetite and risk.

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post Sep 20 2011, 09:06 PM

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So Wong, what is your targeted point of entry?
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post Sep 20 2011, 10:38 PM

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Oh,ok. Yea, u did inform u do vca.
That is why v call u wong sifu la. Haha.

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 20 2011, 11:12 PM)
For easier part, we follow wong's footstep. He enter, we enter. He cabut, we cabut. U lose money, your problem  laugh.gif
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He blindly VCA lar.. Haha, because he started long long ago..
If you are new, probably can wait for good moment, then pump in..
Spread it lo..
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QUOTE(BlueSilver @ Sep 21 2011, 10:49 AM)
cheaper than the first time when i bought? that should consider a good deal right?
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Like this, you will be very busy buying already.. Haha.
Remember to set a strategy, don't sai lang everything.

Now u see it is cheap, down the road, it can be cheaper.

Then another few more months, even cheaper.

So best is, enter stage by stage.


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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 21 2011, 12:04 PM)
KLCI up 9 points at the moment.
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This is just a technical rebound during a bear game..
Reverse gear is on already now smile.gif
Riding down again smile.gif Let's welcome 1399 soon
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post Sep 23 2011, 09:35 AM

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Market heading for a plunge.. And once new announced it is recession, dooms day..
We can see a very low low KLCI soon, and it will be time for those that had been waiting to enter the market to enter soon smile.gif

Cheers
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 23 2011, 09:40 AM)
All guns and % of ammo prepared Sir. tongue.gif
Good comrade..

Let's wait for the target to come nearer..
We shall shoot him on the body first..

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 23 2011, 10:28 AM)
Wish i got 1million bond/cash as bullet lol. U guys enter at what point?
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Wait first.. Camp now..
Now faster work harder, OT more, do sales, get more capital. Pay up the loans, pay up the debts.. Don't waste money investing in fresh bear play first.

Once market had go to a dead dip.. Side way, pour in cash + capital. If you are daring, go and refinance house, maybe 50%, and put into it..
After 1 year, guarantee you can see the effect..

Now we had not reached a dead valley yet.. Continue to camp..
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 23 2011, 10:46 AM)
But it is wise to invest into bond? Put in bond, when time comes, switch to equity. Or keep cash in saving account?
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If you are using EPF, or client. You can ask client to get EPF into Bond la.. Once opportunity strike, can get bond to equity right away (No need wait 3 month withdraw one time, wasting time to do that, because 3 months on a market rebound, will miss a lot of fun already)

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