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TSciohbu
post Dec 9 2011, 05:29 PM

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for those looking for something special and cheap

try akadama(赤玉土) as base smile.gif

in summary, why akadama?

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Akadama has a very good CEC (Cation Exchange Capacity) value which means that it will pull out of the water any cations, eg Mg++, Ca++, K+, etc and hold onto these making them available for the plant's roots. The Akadama works similar to a cation exchange resin used in domestic water systems for softening water except rather than exchange magnesium and calcium for sodium ions, it exchanges magnesium, calcium, etc for hydrogen ions. The exchanged hydrogen ions then react with any bicarbonates in the water causing the KH and pH to drop. Also due to magnesium and calcium being held by the Akadama the GH will drop as well. After a period of time and a few water changes the water parameters will settle down.


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http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/akadama.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akadama
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post Dec 9 2011, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(sisaiko @ Dec 9 2011, 05:36 PM)
nice...
unfortunately akadama soil not available in Msia yet...plus the akadama soil actually not cheap
widely used as bonsai soil...

plus this is part of ADA wabi-kusa base secret
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ya.. too bad hard to find in malaysia, its quite famous in other country and widely use in planted or shrimp tank smile.gif

sisaiko u got Boraras brigittae ?



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post Dec 11 2011, 03:35 PM

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yupe, as per boss sisaiko, new filter + new media might have this issue

hmmm..if ur tank totally new, i won't release fishes into it so soon... it need few weeks to cycle properly
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post Dec 12 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(amafz01 @ Dec 11 2011, 11:36 PM)
yup, i did rinsed for a few times for the medias supplied, maybe that still not enough, need intensive rinse i think...

another 1 noob question, can we use filtered or RO water for our tank as my tap water supply was so bad condition..so rusty and brownish...
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depends on your fauna

if u plan to use RO/distilled water (RO anddistilled water are totally different), need to find constant source for that, also u will need some supplement to bring up the GH/KH and adjust the PH too (dun ever use PH up/down chemical products)

for my tank, i refill with distilled water (0GH) and weekly water change with tap water(3GH) + mineral plus to bring up GH

i dun recommend to top up with tap water, your GH will slowly build up until its too high rclxub.gif then suddenly ur fish/shrimp dying...
p/s: our tap water originally come with 2-3GH (depends on location)

if u keeping fish only, GH not that important, focus on PH should be fine icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 12 2011, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(z8net @ Dec 12 2011, 03:52 PM)
o0o0o0o0... no wonder my shrimp dissappear... i always keep on topup with tap water... how to control the gh kh then?
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hmmm.. there are few factors why shrimp will die actually.. hehee.. high GH is one of them smile.gif

refill
when your tank water evaporate, only h2o dissapear, minerals such as calcium, mag will still be in ur water(they are too heavy to evaporate),
and imagine u refill with tap water (which already have mineral in it), eventually u are adding more mineral into your tank, now your tank is original mineral + new mineral from tap water refill

water change
but its okie to change water with tap water (adjust if too low or too high), because u are taking out X amount of water+mineral, and put back same X amount.

check online for the perfect GH range of your shrimp

http://www.shrimpkeeping.com/

so its better to get a GH test kit before its too late icon_rolleyes.gif

so far i only test PH and GH, KH not really that important specially if u have 2feet tank and above, just my personal opinion and experience

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post Dec 12 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(z8net @ Dec 12 2011, 05:12 PM)
thanks sifoo ciohbu... already read that site b4 but still havent get the test kit yet... huhu~ yes my tank is 2 feet (low tech) with 2213
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i have 2 extra Sera GH test kit if you interested smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47069789
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post Dec 13 2011, 09:37 AM

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hmmm.. bba could be caused by dirty filter too smile.gif

i think unstable co2 is referring to the amount u supplying when u on your light, make sure its enough for your plants but not too much to kill ur fauna

light ON + little co2 = algae partying, light ON + too much co2 = fauna pengsan rclxub.gif

co2 indicator in tank should show green or green yellowish

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post Dec 13 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Dec 13 2011, 12:03 PM)
my co2 indicator is green yellowish

in the morning the green is darker

so i increase my co2 up to point b4 my fish pengsan ?

dun think it's dirty filter coz i juz dump in a new 2213 last week

i did not rinse the media too...so far ok no cloudy water as someone experienced
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ooouuu.. no la.. dun kill ur fish tongue.gif

usually co2 will be the main factor for algae attack, after u check ur co2, u have to slowly find out other factors

after google....


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There are many causes and reasons cited for the presence and spread of this algae in the tank, and I would not like to go into the details of these causes. I would just like to mention here that nutrient imbalance and improper ( excess ) lighting are  the main cause of this algae .


http://fishyaquaria.wordpress.com/2010/05/...rush-algae-bba/

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Treatment:
Oxygen: Can be successfully treated with a syringe of hydrogen peroxide. Overdosing peroxide will harm/kill your fish so I recommend no more than 1 ml of peroxide per 5 gallon. It works well but can’t be considered as an efficient treatment.

Co2: It’s been noticed that red algae are especially troubling in waters with plentiful CO2. Increase levels slowly to 30ppm will help lot. Try to keep Co2 levels as stable as possible.
Overdosing Flourish Excel can be used as an alternative to CO2.

Fish: Few fish will eat red algae. Siamese Algae Eaters and the American Flag Fish are known to eat it. Please let me know if you know other fish that eats Black Brush Algae.

Nutrients: In planted aquarium, the best way to eliminate Black Brush Algae is to let the plants out-compete the algae for the nutrients. Balanced nutrient levels, stable Co2 and enough light for plants growth are a must.
In non planted aquarium, regular water changes will help reducing nutrient levels


http://www.aquariumslife.com/algae-control/brushalga/
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post Dec 14 2011, 11:13 PM

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if its totally new tank, it will need 3 weeks and above, to be safe

adding mature water or filter media from other tank will help

test ur PH and GH too if u really wanna set up a shrimp tank smile.gif

p/s: jsut wondering do we need a separate topic for fresh water shrimp such as neocaridina ? ..hehee


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post Dec 14 2011, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Dec 13 2011, 03:19 PM)
snail right? hmm.. i also don't know.. hahaha... i only notice that they will snatch my shrimp's food and lay a lot of eggs.. ahahaha... maybe can help to clear algae and leftover fish food loh..


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hmm.. i don't think they will eat small snail.. they eat fish food or algae...
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ram snail will reproduce by itself.. so one day ur tank will explode with snail if u didnt control them smile.gif

for those who wanna keep snail, should try nerite snail, their egg won't hatch in fresh water.. at least u got their population under control icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 15 2011, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Dec 15 2011, 08:51 AM)
i tot nerite is zebra snail ? the one in ur photo looks like horn snail. nerite leave unsighty white eggs all over the tank and difficult to remove ?
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zebra and horned are actually a species of nerite snail smile.gif their egg will not hatch in fresh water, unlike normal snail... thus won't take over ur tank from ur fish or shrimp tongue.gif

http://www.planetinverts.com/snail_species.html
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post Dec 16 2011, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(pakutekan @ Dec 16 2011, 07:59 AM)
refill 2kg co2 at klang rm35.. change the empty tank with full tank. no need to wait. i wonder if i can find this type of shop at JB..
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wohhh.. klang mana? my place leh tongue.gif
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post Dec 16 2011, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(pakutekan @ Dec 16 2011, 09:06 AM)
jalan kapar..
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wohh. so near so near.. need more details drool.gif

they refill aluminium tank or not ya?
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post Dec 16 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(maxtrix @ Dec 16 2011, 10:17 AM)
I think Taman Sg Besi cheaper. Syarikat City Corporation. I think RM10 for below 5kg tank. refill done in 5 min.  whistling.gif
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yupe.. i usually refill there too.. but the thing is ... need to drive very far.. rclxub.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 04:49 PM

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happy weekend everyone biggrin.gif

another use of my SUDO plant weight

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post Dec 18 2011, 07:58 PM

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i guess RO or distilled water change is the easiest way.. but do it slowly.. to avoid sudden GH/PH change

another more advance way is to find water softener resin .. BUT ... normal market resin is charged with Na+ (sodium or we call it salt) to replace Ca or Mg (to lower GH), Na generally not useful in planted tank.. u need to charge them with Potassium Chloride (KCL).. Ca/Mg out, Potassium in... plants can use potassium as it is one of macro - NPK

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post Dec 18 2011, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(amafz01 @ Dec 18 2011, 08:49 PM)
what leaf is that? is that a food for shrimp?
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yupe.. organic "sayur bayam" smile.gif need to boil them first

shrimp will take few types of vege as long as they are safe..

spotted this sexy pregnant mama just now icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 27 2011, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(timichang @ Dec 27 2011, 08:03 PM)
yes
started running on 16 dec, with 2ft tank, yeats CO2, 55watt lighting, HOB filter (360L/H)
added a tiger bard for water cycle purpose on next day
(I heard it quicken the speed to start a new tank)
get about 10 pcs ghost shrimp (those use for feeding) on 19 dec

everything was fine

until 3 days later, i took out the tiger bard and add 16 tetra in (8 cardinal tetra, 8 black neon)

and I start lost 1 or 2 of them everyday
first was black neon, until the number of black neon down to 5

It is cardinal tetra's turn
there is only 3 cardinal tetra left now cry.gif

another thing that I wonder..... they often swim like /\/
go up up and swim strait for like 1cm and "zoooom" down
is this normal? because i don't see those in LFS do this hmm.gif
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from your description.. it seems that your tank has been running/cycling for only one week

a totally new tank will need around 3weeks to cycle properly, and if u using any soil, ie ADA, it will be leaking ammonia during the initial stage of planting

min 2 weeks to be safe smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Jan 4 2012, 08:30 AM)
thanks a lot as u guys enlighten me.

by the way, can any1 explain to me the function of lily pipe? nearly 2 feet tank..i see the hose (green) v ugly. my tank is crystal clear type, n in a sudden, can see the green hose from the back attached with the green batang (inflow & outflow).

1. i wana to know the functions of lily pipe.
2. if i buy, is it sell seperate for inflow and outflow or it comes together?
3. my canister is Taiyo CF1200. how to buy as i knw there is size for it.

Please enlighten me dai lou and sifu's in here.

Many thanks.
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QUOTE(amafz01 @ Jan 4 2012, 09:02 AM)
it improve the areation n helps to remove the thin oil on the surface in additional to have a aesthethic look to your tank

it come in a pair (inlet n outlet) + spring brush + suction cup (commonly)

it come in a few size, check your hose size
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kekeee.. u d answer ur own question.. one of the factor is ugly of green hose tongue.gif

another one d answered by bro amafz, different type of pipe outflow will give different type of flow too, try compare ADA lily pipe and poppy pipe

can be purchase in single piece actually.. depends on buyer, but of course its cheaper to get in set lor

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post Jan 19 2012, 11:03 AM

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~~ happy CNY guys ~~

and happy holiday for those not celebrating biggrin.gif
its been quite some time since my last post here.. lol

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