if you can't even get 5 b's in spm, which is so easy, considering 10,000 students gets straight a's, you should NOT consider medicine.........

makes perfect sense........

you should NOT be able to enter medicine with only b's in stpm......you cannot, into ipta.......but new upstart med schools and some foreign mede schools takes people as long as they can pay, even with some c's.....

nobody without straight a's in spm/stpm/matrik should be allowed to do medicine........but in bolehland (some calls it bodohland), lots of people with very mediocre results and lots of money gets in....

try get into spore/uk/oz med school......and you will know what i mean..........that where REAL selection of med students take place.....

the reason for the new mmc requirement is because many students enter med school from spm.....

sure, they do some kind of 'foundation' for a few months......and they will all pass and be eligible to enter the course.......therefore guidelines based on stpm/matrik/a levels doesn't work as these people have no accredited pru-u........

they should do what the bar council does.....any lawyer who wants to be called to the bar MUST have a recognised pre-u before doing their degree......

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Added on August 21, 2011, 5:41 pmyou are in serious need of some career counselling.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 21 2011, 05:41 PM

other than physics, and some engineering, you do not need physics to enter most courses in uni......

and you have the entire range of arts/humanities courses you can do as well........

and finally, teach......

when i eventually need the services of doctors, i want them NOT to be grade c mediocre students with rich parents.....

self preservation.....

to achieve the objective of the moh, to have 1 doctor for every 600 people, by 2010, msia needs about 4000 new doctors a year.......once that ratio is reached, msia only need 3000 new doctors a year to replace retiring doctors, and keep up with population growth........

at the current rate of production of 5000-6000/year, this target can be achieved by 2015 or soon after.......

you cannot turn off the tap just like that, and production will continue, and there will be a surplus of doctors........

even if we accept that we need 6000 students to enter medicine a year, and that there are 10,000 straight a's students in spm, that is more than enough good students, no need to take in people with b's......let alone c's......

i have a lot of problem understanding postings here, due to very bad sentence structures, bad grammar, and wrong use of words......and this is symptomatic of the general poor command of english amongst msian students....

msian doctor training suffers from 2 major flaws....

first, too many med schools have opened, without regards for quality, both in the syllabus, teachers, and students......the fact that all the new med schools are private, for profit businesses compounds the matter further, with intake of very academically weak students with money.....

this problem is compounded further by there being too many foreign med schools recognised (some 300 odd).....giving rise to a very large cohort of msians studying overseas.......about 1000 in each of russia and egypt......and another 1000 odd from indonesia/india/bangladesh/etc......

the 2nd major flaw is, there is no control over who these med schools select for their courses......therefore, they will admit as many as possible (and like cucms, MORE than they are legally allowed to), as every student is money......foreign 3rd world med schools will admit as many as possible, as they are very good source of income, and they are not cocnerned about the quality of students/eventual doctors, as almost NONE will stay back to work in these countries....

and since many very good, straight a's students are poor, and cannot afford the fees, they cannot enter, and weak b or c grade students with money gets accepted.....the new mmc rule is an attempt to correct this flaw.....

even the ipta med schools are flawed, in compliance with the nep, to take in more matrik students, many of whom are weak students with inflated marks.....

like i said, if you want to know how properly to select and train doctors, look at how spore/uk/oz select......and the calibre of students they have......no b grade student will even think about applying, let alone c grade......and a thread like this will not exist in their education forums.......

isn't that the whole point....educate the young?

what would a teacher say then, every year repeating the same thing to new students......?

you don't have to come and read, since you have read it before....unless you have ideas to contribute.....

nobody reads the top threads or the front pages.......

how many times have you seen people ask exactly what's already answered in front?.....

in any case, it's their life......if they want to dig their own graves, so be it.....but i have done my part in educating.....and at least this thread starter cannot claim ignorance now......

lol.....

ts has now moved to engineering, and getting scolded for silly questions there too........

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Added on August 22, 2011, 11:48 pm see the magnitude of the problem?.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 22 2011, 11:48 PM

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2005960

and obviously have learnt nothing from this thread........

since when does one need good english to be a doctor in msia......?

heck, you don't even need to be good academically......ccc will do......

all you need is passion.......

A necrosed thread resurrected!

I would be extremely surprised anyone will be retaking SPM to do medicine, in the light of the current 1 year wait for housemanship, 30% retainment in housemanship and 10% drop out.....see what "passion" produced...

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jan 20 2018, 04:22 PM