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This post has been edited by sotong1992: Aug 27 2011, 02:08 PM

TS, how bout Mechatronic course, it suits ur interest in ME & EE coz u'll learn both in this course. u've already stated before tht u have interest in machinery & robots, as u know all machine require application of both mechanical & electronic to make it work/move.

i suggest u to read job recruitment ads in The Star or anywhere and find out what is their job scope, their responsibility and required knowledge&skills for the job. hope this way can help u to figure out what u want to be/do as career

@sotong1992 you go do lah .=)

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Added on August 27, 2011, 3:24 pm@sotong1992 any idea how many engineer malaysia produce each year? tried google search engineering malaysia statistics nothing came out =S where did you get the doctor statistics also?

This post has been edited by Applehead: Aug 27 2011, 03:24 PM

KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysian Medical Association is concerned with the haphazard turnout of medical graduates from 30 local medical schools and hundreds returning from overseas annually.
Its president, Dr David K.L. Quek, said this year alone more than 3,650 medical graduates reported for internship and provisional registration.

"Starting next year to 2020 we are projecting some 4,000 to 5,000 medical graduates coming on-stream annually," he told the New Straits Times.


He said the increase was caused by the Health Ministry's aim to quickly reduce the doctor-population ratio from 1:903 now to the so-called developed nation status norm of 1:400.

Malaysia plans to have more than 85,000 doctors for a projected population of 35 million by 2020. It now has just over 31,000 doctors, including provisionally registered interns.

Dr Quek said this goal of trying to have so many doctors in so short a time was too fast, and too soon.


"Before long, we would be facing not just a serious glut of doctors but also a possible erosion of standards mainly because our infrastructure and our current and projected training and supervising personnel cannot cater to such a huge influx of medical graduates in so short a time."

He said fresh medical graduates need more in-depth training and closer supervision as they dealt with extremely narrow margins of errors and possible life and death encounters.

"Medical mistakes and lapses are not acceptable options, and the consequences are too dire for society or the patient and/or their families to bear," Dr Quek said.


"Of late our qualms are spooked by rising complaints that some foreign graduates are of dubious quality and training, especially those from questionable medical schools whose programmes have been formed purely as business concerns.

"These medical programmes seemed to have blossomed of late to cater to foreign medical students from third world countries, or as luck would have it, even from middle-income nations such as Malaysia." he added.

He said Russian, Indonesian and Ukrainian universities were offering medical programmes strictly for foreigners in the English language when many of the teaching staff have problems even speaking English. Graduates are expected to leave and not practise in the host country.

He said the Malaysian Medical Council faced a dilemma whether to approve standards based on a minimum of requirements but possibly sacrificing on quality, or to deny them and earn the wrath of parents, medical school agents and politically-linked investors/detractors.

These concerns also applied to some local private medical schools which have sprouted recently. Their main concern was to have as many medical student numbers and intakes as possible to cater to the demand rather than worry about the quality of the graduate.

He said non-clinical teachers -- many not eligible to register as doctors in Malaysia to practice -- were imported from neighbouring countries and young professors were elevated and instructors promoted without adequate quality assurance standards.



Use your calculator, Msia has 32 medical colleges, old medical school can have 100 students per intake and the new established may have 50 to 100 students per intake. So, we may have around 2000 medical graduates a year. Do not forget those students from Ukraine, Russia, Ireland, UK, Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, India and Egypt.

These medical colleges for sure will increase the students intake to raise the profit by bombastic advertisement. So, more doctors are on the way.

For engineering, use the same way to count the students then you can roughly know the figure on how many engineering graduates is produced per year under different field, ex: mechanical, chemical, E&E and so so. I think almost all public universities have engineering courses unless UniSZA and UUM. (correct me if I am wrong)

PS: My assumption, correct me if I am wrong.

This post has been edited by sotong1992: Aug 27 2011, 06:21 PM

Public universities provide some pretty decent engineering education.

Anyway, engineering is not the only way. You might as well consider some other disciplines.

both public and private provide decent engineering education as long as it is accredited by EAC- Engineering Accreditation Council
unless if we focus on facilities though...some institutions might not have sufficient facilities but it doesnt make the degree less valuable

hey..i'm spm result holder..and now i'm lost..i'm good in math and physics and i interest in engineering..

if my math get A and physics got B in spm.i can go for civil engineering ?

Of course you can. No people can say you are not qualified since your results fulfil the requirements and of course passion in it.

if i study foundation for 1 year then persue to degree...foundation syllabus izzit hard??need advice

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Added on September 20, 2011, 1:40 pmif i study foundation for 1 year then persue to degree...foundation syllabus izzit hard??need advice

This post has been edited by heyafrika: Sep 20 2011, 01:40 PM

What will you do if it is hard?

Hmmsss,i will spend more time to study and achieve good result

So, will it really matter whether it is easy or hard? You'll have to do it no matter what, isn't it?
Anyway, strongly recommend you to find out your interest, the interest that can keep you going on and on, wanting to look out for more and more information about it. Those things should be your jobs, because you'll enjoy it, instead of enduring and suffer through it.

doesnt mean u r a science student u must be in meds or engineering. some of my science stream frens are in business and communications field. SO WHAT.. if u like physics? i like arts back at school but i did engineering anyway. and please dont u put people in science stream are better than anyone else. some things u need to go through by ur self. people telling that engineering is better now but in 5 years when u finish study, do u think its feasible for u to compete with thousands(maybe milions) of engineering graduates from all over the world. if u dont get what is ipts go study some more. there is this thing called "google" in the net. try and look up for it. do some homework.



hey applehead. u r living in a world called real life. what u learn in school n uni doesnt determine what u do for work. it s ur critical thinking u develop throughout those years to help u do ur work. as an engineer u dont go to work and literally " designs, builds, or maintains engines, machines, or public works". most of the time u design process improvement, build plans, coordinate to maintain engines/machines and importantly public work like filing, photostat, doing report and stuff.

some of engineers prefer to be technician because they can claim overtime. most engineer/executive position doesnt have this previlage


R U SURE?? try and look back at ur post and ask urself could u be actually doing engineering?? maybe u should organize urself more. get some info from other resources and then post about doing what u want in the future.

Hmm. I asume u study aircraft maintenance engineer. In Malaysia, which uni/college has besides Nilai?