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 Working in Singapore v8, Tan vs Tan vs Tan vs Tan

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post Sep 12 2011, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Sep 11 2011, 09:41 PM)
This almost never happens where I am. Namely because it's never the sole decision of the hiring manager. For graduate hires, it's 99% of the time a committee decision... usually comprising the hiring mgr, 2nd level mgr, geographic manager and relevant business or functional manager. That's why it's never possible to hire a candidate whose profile doesn't tick all (or most of) the boxes. Someone's bound to question your judgement.

In fact the managers involved make it a point to remove themselves from the decision making process if they know the external candidate.

I see very, very little "influence" being exerted for external candidates. The chances of being implicated in a 1800-Ethicsline free call is too great for any manager to risk. Nobody also wants to be left holding the baby/blame (as the guy who pushed for the hire) if the new hire turns out to be a failure.

Where a lot of influence comes to bear is internal hires, role changes and promotions.
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I cannot comment for your company but from where i come from, ultimately the responsibility of performance (whether for the supervisor or his subordinates) falls firmly on the shoulders of the supervisor himself. Therefore he is given the opportunity to hire his own staff with the implicit understanding that he (and his team) will deliver the promised results. HR's involvement is purely customary.
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post Sep 12 2011, 06:55 PM

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The above does not take into consideration the exchange rate. SGD to RM is at 2.4X nearing 2.5x. Many are predicting SGD to strenghtened to 2.6x in the next 5 years. A move of 10 bpts means a "gain" of 10% which no banks in M'sia can offer for a 5 year FD.
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post Sep 12 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Sep 12 2011, 08:35 PM)
This is very rare in any MNC that wants to build a strong corporate culture. What you described inevitably results in cliques (best case) or empire-building (worst case).


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post Sep 17 2011, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Sep 17 2011, 04:38 AM)
one thing for sure, if you stay at JB, you are richer 2.4x than us


Added on September 17, 2011, 4:42 amMercury8400 is rubbish since he cannot get a job in OZ?


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So now people are rubbish because they cannot get a job in Oz?
And FYI i never wanted to work in oz in the first place becoz:-

1) you need a PR to get any interview in Oz. 2) It's not easy getting a job in Oz and believe it or not, racial discrimination does happen more often than u think. 3) Taxes are high and your take home pay is only cukup makan and the difference in pay in not big. In other words, whether you are a rubbish collector or a doctor, your pay is not that much different after taxes, etc. (FYI some idiots tell me that "that's the point! We want an egalitarian society where people are equal"..... Does that sound eeriely like what the communist are preaching?)

So why in blue heaven do i want to work in Oz?
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post Sep 18 2011, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Sep 17 2011, 07:29 PM)
but in another thread said OZ better for quality of living, car is cheap..even studio cheaper than sg, only food slighly expensive. if you have 60K in sg, you can get 100k in OZ. do you mean the higher income at OZ will be worse?
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When have I ever said that?
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Better quality of living - yeah, when yr retiring/retired
cheap car - maybe
studio cheaper than sg - depends on location. I've been to Sydney before and the prices are similar
food "only slightly" expensive - Are you kidding? A typical sh1t a$$ chinese meal in aus foodcourt cost >AUD10 while in SG i get it for< SGD 5!!!!


Added on September 18, 2011, 12:21 amOne more thing, how do you know i'm malaysian? For all you know i could be those true blue Singaporean who hates all "foreigners" taking up jobs meant for Singaporean.

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post Sep 20 2011, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Sep 20 2011, 03:11 PM)
I put most of my rainy day cash in CIMB. The Starsaver account pays 0.8% on the entire balance, no service fees, no drop below fees... only one condition, you need to deposit $500 each month or the interest rate drops to 0.5% (still higher than anything the big3 can offer). It's got free cheques and the lowest fees (to my knowledge) if you deposit forex cheques as well.
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the only place worth putting in yr money in SG in Real Estate. The rest are crap. FD - crap interest rates, Bonds - crap coupon rates, equities - volatile, unit trust - volatile....
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post Sep 20 2011, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Sep 20 2011, 05:07 PM)
blink.gif The whole purpose of having cash for a rainy day is so that you don't have to liquidate your investments and disrupt the compounding, when it begins to rain. And if you are going to hold some cash anyway, why not get the highest return you can for it?

Unless of course, you don't want to hold any cash and reckon it's a good idea to sell your flat (or use it as collateral) to buy food when you get retrenched.
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Precisely. Don't hold cash or hold just enough for daily use only. Don't have to sell yr house if you suddenly need money. Just refinance yr house. Interest is much, much more cheaper than personal loan and can be done in no time.
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post Sep 21 2011, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(I-Kurosaki @ Sep 20 2011, 10:42 PM)
Hi guys! Still remember me? I have posted in v7 before, asking opinions from bros here.

So yeah, I have made a difficult decision to work in SG, alone. Its a tough one, to be separated from wife (she's pregnant, due deliver ard CNY next year), so I made it a point to travel back at least 3 times a month...She's understanding and supportive as well. Well, have sacrifice a bit for the better lifestyle for my wife and baby, heh.

In return, the offer is quite attractive; just the basic alone is higher than my current pay, comparing SGD1 to RM1. A number of perks offered that my current cant even come close. Was informed to tender resignation after they got the EP approval from MOM. Guess what, submit to them on Sunday, then they called up today saying that my EP's approved. My god, thats was blazingly fast & efficient!  rclxms.gif 

Expected commencement is early of Nov. Will take this opportunity to accompany my wife  tongue.gif
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Walau! If u got wife the equation must change man. RM1=SGD1 may not be worth it anymore unless its >SGD10k. Why? Coz the cost of you going back every week, rental/instalment of 2 sides (SG/Mal), emotional expense plus SG is damn boring if you have nobody. PS Geylang is out of the question for U.
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QUOTE(yinyum @ Sep 22 2011, 12:29 AM)
This trick still works nowadays??? How about American companies? They buy this trick? tongue.gif
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Unfortunately this trick cannot work if used by Foreigner. Coz employer know you are tied down by EP and all they need is to delay the cancellation of yr EP (or refuse to cancel) hence preventing the new company the new company to apply for you. So unless you get yr PR, yr current company can do a lot of monkey business behind you if you leave in a bad manner.
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QUOTE(yinyum @ Sep 22 2011, 12:47 PM)
sad.gif  sad.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

But I don't plan to stay long in SG, so didn't think of applying PR. Hey mercury, you ever attended any LYN gatherings here?


Added on September 22, 2011, 12:50 pm
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Why? I'll attend if you attend... wink.gif
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post Sep 22 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(yinyum @ Sep 22 2011, 04:16 PM)
My housemate bought and sold Silver last month (UOB), she earns $1k by buying $20k initially.
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Speaking of investments dunno why STI all red. US Fed already indicated they are willing to roll out US400 bln but still investors spectical. Maybe they foresee another round of recession? If yes then we all better pray hard that there is no redundacy plan.....
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Sep 22 2011, 05:25 PM)
high class ppl like u should worry. low class WP worker like me got nothing to be afraid of.
Coz they can't dismiss ppl like us because they need us to run the business. but ppl that are highly paid. beware.
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1) I won't consider myself high class. Maybe medium class. But I'm still young, so plenty of potential get to the top...no rush
2) Nobody is indispensable or undismissable to a company. As long as you bring value to the company they will not fire you
3) Highly paid people bring high value to a company. If not see point no.2 above.
4) I tot last time someone complain the gathering always cancel lar, batang club lar, etc.....
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post Sep 24 2011, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Sep 23 2011, 10:52 PM)

Added on September 23, 2011, 10:57 pm

It's up to u girl. But my ideal type of gal look on my personality than money.
Btw, if u are pretty u can demand more, if u are not, then hope u can marry before u are on 30 yrs old.
And 4k SGD just enough for me to suppork family if wife is also working, average SG people earn 3k/month if u know. Don't look rich people, look many people are poor then u will be free..
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Good luck to you finding that type of girl in SG. Girls like dat also hard to find in KL let alone in this competitve place known as SG....unless you go JB kampung- kampung type.....

And today in Raffles Place, I look with disgust when very pretty young chinese lady (dunno singaporean, Malaysian or China chinese) holding hands with a fat, bald and ugly gwai lou who happens to be a head shorter than her( and by his looks alot older). I try to convince myself she did it for the money........ sweat.gif


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QUOTE(yinyum @ Sep 23 2011, 11:23 PM)
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I'm looking for both personality and money, ho mei?  wink.gif

I just don't understand why you wanna compare to ppl who lower than u, if u compare to ppl earn lower than you, you feel happy and satisfy? Why don't compare to ppl who earn more than you and you should think how to achieve that? Why stay with what you having now and not trying to go further & achieve more? I only know that I shouldn't be contented while I'm still young. Stay hungry, stay foolish, this is what my 'BOSS' said  tongue.gif
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Generally i agree with you except for the bolded part. Otherwise you will end up used and abused......

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post Sep 24 2011, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(yinyum @ Sep 24 2011, 12:07 PM)
Errr.... The term STAY FOOLISH simply means do not always think that you've learnt all and there's nothing more for you to learn. So by staying foolish, you're always willing to learn more and keep learning new things.
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Then it should say STAY HUNGRY instead...
Stay foolish and stay hungry is a huge difference, you know..

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 27 2011, 12:49 PM)
SGD3.5k per months consider low pay in SG for 6-7 years experience?
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Damn low lor....
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 27 2011, 02:09 PM)
Dollar to dollar, sure local pay higher than SG
saving after conversion higher than MY i think will be acceptable


Added on September 27, 2011, 2:10 pm
7 years of work exp post degree graduate what you think? around "that" figure
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No lar. 7 years + cannot get that low lar. Now fresh grad also get 2.6K starting pay in MNC. What more 7 years + postgrad. Dun let them bullsh1t you with the non singaporean/PR nonsense. Tell them how you add value to their company and make it an ultimatum of + or - 20% of your current pay in M'sia. Don't let them push you around. and most importantly

DON'T SPOIL MARKET!!!!
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Sep 27 2011, 04:16 PM)
Marine/ OnG industry. But i dont expect a white collar fella to cope with the demands of the job. In my previous company, 2 out of 3 potential employees will resign within the first 6 months since most cant stand the job and the environment. Working inside a ship tank where the humidity is like a sauna, the ambient temperature hovers around 40 C, you need to work at height climbing ladders nearly 5 stories high and doing this for 5-9 hours straight everyday. Plus your exposed to confined spaces and the danger that explosions may happen, lack of oxygen or being poisoned by H2S is an ever present danger.

I have little hope that pencil pushers would last even a month before giving up. There was one singaporean guy who just finished NS, went to work for just one day and that was the last we ever saw of him.
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Similarly, you cannot fanthom spending even 1 week in a typical office. Sitting and reading/preparing report after reports, thousands of pages long for 10-12 hours a day while the bosses scrutinise evey number on the report and a single mistake will result in big, big argument..... i bet you cannot last >1 week in a pencil pushing job..... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cougar richard @ Sep 30 2011, 05:53 PM)
Guys, I need some help here.

I wanted to open a saving account with POSB bank. The staff there told me that if I am holding a work permit, then I need to check with my employer to see my employer has a Corporate Account with POSB. If dont have then I cannot open "Work Permit Saving Account" with them. After I checked with my employer, they do not have Corporate Account with POSB.

The staff said if I want to open saving account by my own, then I need to declare to them why I need to open my own, how may transactions per month I will make etc. And even if I declare, it is still subject to approval.

I saw their website saying that for the foreigner saving account, if balance fall under $5000 per month, I will be deducted $2 per month. I will also be deducted for $2 for each cash withdrawal.

So is there any other bank that can let me open a saving account by my own, have ATM card, NO fall-below charge, NO cash withdrawal charge, NO initial deposit (if required then the most is $500), and have E-Banking access. 

I hope can get answer here, thank you.
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Walau, this wan u kena con. I opened my saving account with Citibank bank with S$ 500. If below then kena fine S$2. No nonsense about having to have a employer with an account with them or approval or all that sh1t. Are you sure you are oppening a saving account? Sounds more like a current account. In fact my current account was given free to me by citibank when they issued me the premier miles visa signature credit card....
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post Oct 4 2011, 11:13 AM

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I tot HDB cannot rent out unless you have lived there for 5 years or you have proof that you work overseas?


Added on October 4, 2011, 11:15 amFurther, if you have houses elsewhere (even overseas) you are NOT eligible to buy hdb housing....if someone rat out on you, your hdb get confiscated....too big of a risk mang....

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Oct 4 2011, 11:22 AM)
the first one i try too fufill
the second one, is just a declaration and confirm to sg gov, they cant check,
only problem is, as u mention somebody cucuk, so need to do this low profile

my fren went through all the hassle changing name for his property, then the hdb officer ask them to provide prove to hdb that he dispose his property in ipoh,
my fren say cant u check
the officer reply actually we cant check,
so pls submit your proof of disposing property to us  doh.gif

high risk high return rolleyes.gif
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I know a lot of people are doing that as well but in my opinion, the risk is too big. If really one fine day, someone rat you out, HDB will confiscate yr HBD (this is not like in M'sia where you can pay some money and voila, kautim). You will lose your deposit, your COV and you still need to finance your bank's loan....for nothing....


Added on October 4, 2011, 12:34 pm
QUOTE(LightEnchanter @ Oct 4 2011, 11:49 AM)
anyone working in IT field in spore? Im curious on the salary part, if you're getting 5k here in msia, does it mean that when u go spore you can request the same amount in sgd? dollar to dollar?
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Maybe + or - 20% of MYR pay(usually is - lar). Pls don't spoil market and take 50% pay cut and don't buy their crap about having no exp. in SG. Just don't be too desperate. Tell them + or - 20% of current MYR pay or you walk!

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