hi all i need some advice about this seller:

http://forum.lowyat.net/user/dewkster

Web: http://bluegrassmusic.com.my/

i want to buy some musical instrument that he said he have it.. i never see him before, never go to the shop even they have a website, never know him, n also i'm quite far from there (for me).. then i msg him, about the stuff, he said yes he have it, BUT need to DEPOSIT or BANK in.. the amount quite big for me as foreigner student, he want me to deposit at least 250RM (50% of the total)..

since this is electronic stuff so i think i go to the shop and just walk-in, but he said the stuff not in shop, but in his warehouse, so he need the deposit to take out from the warehouse.. i don't know his system, so i tried to check anything about him, phone number, name, etc.. and i found he's clean.. too clean until i can't get any testimony about his sold item..

so now i need advice should i deposit or not?? or maybe somebody know him well?? i already look for this stuff but only him n melaka guy have it.. melaka too far for me..

hope i can found something here..

I don't know the seller, so I am not in position to comment on that.

What I know is 50% deposit deal tend to go wrong in so many way. Most of the con cases are like that. So its better for you to discuss with the seller other possible way.

thanks mate.. i already discuss n still don't meet any good agreement.. if deposit i think i only want 50rm deposit, not more than that.. but he still want 50%

If you don't know the seller's reputation or previous deals vouched by other buyers then don't deal or give big amount of deposits. Too risky and many things can go wrong. Better safe than sorry bro.

This post has been edited by svage98: Aug 17 2011, 09:43 PM

Yeah thats one of ny fave quotes haha.. better safe then sorry.. but if someone know him let ne know la.. i really need that stuff..

this also not good! if seller have dup acc, and make u trust that seller....just if...then u trust it, then kena con..zzz
btw...seller must follow/agreed with buyer, not buyer follow/agreed with seller. if not then, find other seller.........

Yaah.. haha.. Ill not believe if only one people tell me, if he make many dup acc thats so damn good.. haha.. Usually seller must follow buyer but in this case i dont know why he dont want.. and i also looking for others seller but not found yet until now.. the only seller is him n the melaca guy in lelong

No la...what I mean if you use your head and see logically the feedback given to other buyers. If you see many people especially newbies join almost the same time as the seller then you can see something fishy going on and maybe seller made up so called people to vouch for him. Use common sense la.

Any how...I don't agree that seller must follow or agree with buyer. For me an understanding must be reached between seller and buyer. That's what negotiation is...you can't do business and only see the benefits of one side only. Both seller and buyer must come to a good agreement. But seems like in TS's case it's more one sided and too risky for him to consider because he need to pay big deposit first. If he did pay the deposit and seller runaway...it's his lost. If the seller and him meet up to COD and then buyer see that he don't want the item anymore because of certain reasons can he get his deposit back? If seller said no...then again it's the buyer's lost. So TS...you better ask this clearly? Usually seller ask for deposit because he /she want to avoid ffk cases.

This post has been edited by svage98: Aug 17 2011, 10:53 PM

I agree need deposit to avoid ffk but i think 50rm enough to prove that im serious buyer.. i already told him like that.. i dont asking him to do stright cod i know.. if need deposit ok, but 50% seems too big amount lah..

True...but it seem the seller is not willing to accept your term of rm50 deposit so you can't force him to accept to deal unless you can nego him some more. Try asking him again. If he still won't accept your deposit then have to find another seller. Perhaps you can have better luck next time then.

This post has been edited by svage98: Aug 17 2011, 11:06 PM

customer is king in bussiness world... if buyer don't want to pay 50% deposit, seller should honor that.. good seller will not ask for really high deposit anyway... con case even can happen for just rm50 or less. Anyway, why he need the deposit just to take the item from the warehouse if that item is sell by him. For me, he actually taking from others, that's why need the deposit.

I have found a few good seller rejected my deposit to save hassle to refund back if the trade not going through.

Regardless of the seller's reason for wanting higher deposit. You still can't force the seller to accept anything he don't want to. He's not willing to lower the deposit so buyer cannot do anything. TS should find another better seller. If he still want to continue dealing with the seller then he has to accept the seller's terms & conditions. And yes...Customer Is King...but customer still cannot force a seller to sell if he's not willing to follow the customer's term just as a seller cannot force a buyer to buy from him.

This post has been edited by svage98: Aug 17 2011, 11:31 PM

yeah.. to find others seller also not easy.. this kind of rare items.. i think yes he take from others shop..

totally agreed with u:)

The user is new , joined 2011. You might want to be aware of your dealings.

If he has build a strong reputation among traders , then it should be safe for ya..otherwise..no..

hmph... good think to consider.. and no other senior member know him n no testi at all.. and deposit too high, huff.. i think i gonna get this stuff from other country..

some musical instrument? you can go Popular or Artis Gallery look for it 1st maybe there have you wanted?

yeah musical instrument.. popular?? artis gallery?? where is it?? im from sunway..

Find Yamaha also can mah...don't really need to force yourself to deal with him though you wanted it so much...

Arrange meet ups if possible. Or else, forget about it. It's not RM2 we're talking about. It's RM250, and you yourself said it's a huge amount to you. Better be safe, friend!! I'm sure you don't wanna lose that sum of money, nobody here wants, I believe!!

yeah even 2rm who wants to lose some money?? haha.. 2rm at least you can get something useful.. the stuff i want not yamaha brand.. yamaha expensive lo.. haha.. ok thanks for your advice, i'll try not to push myself but push seller to do stright COD.. haha.. Just kidding, not going to push anybody just want some idea to get this stuff without deposit, or if i must deposit i want the trustful seller.. haha..

Popular Book Shop there have selling many kinds of music cds too you can look for there
Artis Gallery also big shop have selling alot of original music cds

Hey friend, just an advice : If you need to push him, U PUSH HIM. He's taking your money, and if 50% is RM250, it meant that the item is RM500? It's not little money you're dealing with!

not CD's i mean.. musical instruments like guitar, basses, drums, etc..

prefer choose another seller lo.. i think i got the supplier.. doremi.com.my hope they got the stock..

This post has been edited by Oshika: Aug 18 2011, 10:41 AM

That's good

why not post what you're looking for.. maybe someone know where to get...

hmph.. yeah.. i tried to call doremi n no body answer.. is it public holiday?? i'll try to post in musical instrument forum.. hope somebody got this things.. thnx..

the seller looks suspicious. I personally would not deal with him/her.

Cause if he have a shop then what if customers who walk-in want to buy the item? He can't ask customers to pay 50% and then come back another day?

Definitely avoid.

yeah i also think that.. but maybe i found that the seller buy from another shop first that why he need deposit 50% but i still dont want.. now i'm waiting on ss15 doremi to contact me when they have stock.. now is out off stock but also i got email address one of their staff, he/she said that they have stock n can arrange to sent to ss15 branch.. hope can deal with it...

you see... they didn't ask for deposit right...

yeah but the stuff is already ordered by someone.. if he cancel so its belong to me.. haha..

Quick, pray. Let's hope he cancels the order.

haha,, he deal with it.. i must wait until stock arrive, they said after raya.. raya is 30-31 right?? not too long.. and the important i found the reasonable seller with a reasonable deal... no deposit, just walk in n buy..

+10 to u my friend!! You had done well. Time for you to graduate from the School of LYN.

ya.. haha.. im a good seller so if i in buyer position i want the seller as good as i am when i in seller position.. my trade record is clean after sell 4items, just 1 testimony, where is the others testi?? haha nice seller nice buyer..

Even DeadEye only take 50rm as a deposit. so, try to talk with the seller.

talk to him many time until i run out of fund in my phone.. but he still want 50% not 50RM.. but already found new seller.. haha thanks..

hard to build reputation in lowyat.net.
took me 3 years and yet there's still people not trusting me.

Nice!!!

Maybe that person is another victim???

I do

Haha.. lowyat is internet market so everybody will try to protect their right.. also many case happen here as reported in helpdesk, even apis ever got con.. so we must careful about every seller or buyer.. haha..