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 ICT Zone Ventures - 8% p.a. yield, Highly not recommended to invest

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post Aug 17 2011, 08:19 PM

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5000/lot

next is 5000
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:19 PM

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what is this company business?
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post Mar 5 2014, 09:18 PM

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but their trustee is very fishy.

beware
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post Mar 17 2014, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(apathen @ Mar 17 2014, 04:32 PM)
how fishy? please tell your side of story for all of us to judge otherwise not very fair for the one being accused.
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my premier trustee which is used by them is not registered under SC
http://www.sc.com.my

Look at My Premier’s Trustee’s company profile ( http://www.mpt.com.my/Company%20Profile%202011.pdf) . Then, take a look at the companies they worked with. Notice none are companies u heard of. Next, google those companies. And……



3a) AZZ Marketing. Some headlines when u search in google (in 1st page) are,
– “AZZ Marketing Tidak Bayar Hasil Pemilik”
– “Azz Marketing menipu jutaan ringgit duit rakyat”
– “AZZ Marketing Berhad Pelaburan Ikan Keli Penipu!”
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post Mar 17 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(apathen @ Mar 17 2014, 10:13 PM)
ok at least this is some fact you reference to, let me give my opinions below :-
Not sure you are clear that interest scheme actually is SSM product and not SC product, hence the trustee need not registered with SC as long as recognized by SSM, unless the trustee want to handle SC product then they need to register with SC. Will you expect for example a will trustee to registered under SC as well?
Looks like SSM was taking action against them, contradict to some say they are powerless.
https://www.ssm.com.my/en/press-release/pen...ad-dituduh-oleh

Now to be fair, for this case was it the fault of trustee that lead to this? I doubt so bcos no action taken on them so far ... otherwise some one with proof can sue them and make quick buck, just like you can't fault an accounting firm that do audit on a bankrupt firm as long the accounting firm do their job professionally.

I guess so far I can only fault them of still being unknown but not that they are illegal.
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u need understand what is sow for trustee.

will company is different as it did not hold any $$ from investor.

and did u notice that majority of My Premier’s Trustee’s customer, which use My Premier’s Trustee’s is a potential scam company?

First, let’s look at REIT’s Trustees. I’ve found there are 14 REITs in Malaysia, and below are the REITs and the Trustee they used. Note that AR stands for Annual Report. All AR can be obtained (and verified) from http://www.bursamalaysia.com/ .




1. AMANAH HARTA TANAH PNB – Amanah Raya Berhad (page 2 of 2010′s AR)
2. AMANAHRAYA REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – CIMB Trustee Berhad (page 4 of 2010′s AR)
3. AMFIRST REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – Mayban Trustees Berhad (page 5 of 2011′s AR)
4. ATRIUM REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – BHLB Trustee Berhad (page 15 of 2010′s AR)
5. AXIS REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – OSK Trustees Berhad ( page 3 of 2010′s AR)
6. AL-HADHARAH BOUSTEAD REIT – CIMB Trustee Berhad (page 28 of 2010′s AR)
7. CAPITAMALLS MALAYSIA TRUST – AmTrustee Berhad (page 20 of 2010′s AR)
8. HEKTAR REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – AmTrustee Berhad (page 32 of 2010′s AR)
9. AL-’AQAR KPJ REIT – Amanah Raya Berhad ( page 5 of 2010′s AR)
10. QUILL CAPITA TRUST – Mayban Trustees Berhad ( page 2 of 2010′s AR)
11. STARHILL REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – Mayban Trustees Berhad (page 14 of 2011′s AR)
12. SUNWAY REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – OSK Trustees Berhad (page 7 of 2011′s AR)
13. TOWER REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – Am Trustee Bhd (page 3 of 2010′s AR)
14. UOA REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST – OSK Trustees Berhad ( page 5 of 2010′s AR)



How many of the 14 REIT uses Trustee that is listed in SC’s website? ALL !!!Or, let me rephrase the question differently. How many of the 14 REIT uses non-registered Trustee ? NONE !.



Just in case someone might say that this interest scheme by SSM is different from REIT or Unit Trust (since both REIT and Unit Trust uses registered Trustee which can be found in SC’s website), i’ve dug further to the SSM’s interest scheme companies.



There are currently 3 types of interest scheme in SSM, Sharefarming Scheme , Equipment Sharing and this Property Scheme. For convinience, let me list all the companies below, and the trustee they used.
- AZZ MARKETING BERHAD – MY PREMIER TRUSTEE
- GOLDEN PALM GROWERS BERHAD – AmTrustee Berhad – ( http://goldenpalm.com.my/auditors.html )
- PLENTIFUL GOLD-CLASS BERHAD – BHLB Trustee Berhad ( http://www.chgs.com.my/trustee.asp )
- AROWANA VENTURE BERHAD – MY PREMIER TRUSTEE
- SWIFTLET ECO PARK BERHAD – PB Trustee Berhad ( http://www.swiftletecopark.com.my/scheme_why_esris_5key.htm
- EAST WEST ONE CONSORTIUM BERHAD – Equity Trust (Malaysia) Bhd – ( page 10 of the company’s eprospectus here: http://www.eastwestone.com/downloads_eprospectus.html )
- ICT ZONE VENTURES BERHAD – MY PREMIER TRUSTEE
- AVENUE PROPERTIES BERHAD – MY PREMIER TRUSTEE
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post Mar 17 2014, 10:46 PM

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why these dont want use SC regulated trustee?

something to hide?
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post Mar 17 2014, 11:21 PM

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u can try ask ict why they dont chose sc regulated trustee
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post Mar 20 2014, 10:10 PM

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wah their website spread virus

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post Mar 21 2014, 08:38 PM

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do they provide details financial statement for each quarter?
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post Mar 22 2014, 06:21 PM

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what auditor they engaged?
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post Mar 26 2014, 09:35 PM

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what different between buy from member compare to buy direct from company?

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post Mar 27 2014, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Lucky_Lucky @ Mar 27 2014, 02:48 PM)
Benefits to buy from existing investor: -

(i) New investors get higher profit sharing from old units

Reason: ICT Zone Ventures Scheme is Shariah-compliant. That means on top of the 8% annual yield, investors are also entitled to additional profit sharing in the end of the scheme (year 2020) based on business performance.

Example: Let's say new investor Mr. Jacky buy directly from company now (March 2013). The unit investment date will start now, in the end of the scheme (year 2020), his profit sharing will be calculated start from 2013.

If Mr. Jacky now buy directly from existing investor Mr. Leon who already start invest since Jan 2012, then the unit investment date will start from 2012 and in the end of the scheme (year 2020), his profit sharing will be calculated start from 2012. Earlier means better.
(ii) New investors may get cheaper price
What is the fee involve if buy from other investor?

I see from calculation buying from other investor(rm4600) will be more profitable compare to buy direct from company

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post Mar 28 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Lucky_Lucky @ Mar 28 2014, 02:30 PM)
Oh ya, forget the admin fees d  doh.gif 
what mean by the company will refund the ICT investor the total amount invested minus the dividend given received by ICT investor?

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post Mar 30 2014, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(apathen @ Mar 30 2014, 05:30 PM)
Thirdly, u gain extra 2 years in profit sharing calculation at end of tenure
What you mean by earn extra 2 year profit at the end tenure?
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post Mar 30 2014, 07:02 PM

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u mean investor will only get the dividend at 2020?
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post Mar 30 2014, 10:35 PM

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sound fishy.

this company will buy the stock/pc/desktop from their owner company.

why not buy the stock/pc/desktop through tender? more transparent
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post Mar 31 2014, 07:29 PM

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Do you know from who did ictzoneventure buy the pc/desktop then rent it to other ppl?

Do you know who is the owner of the company of ictzone?
http://www.ictzone.com.my/pcrental/ICTZone_aboutUs.htm

which mean that mr A basically have 2 company let say company A and company B.

mr a open a scheme using company B name. Then buy the pc/desktop from company A.
Did you see what is the problem lie here?
Did you see any conflict of interest? Why not open tender? Buy from the cheapest pc/desktop supplier?

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post Mar 31 2014, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(apathen @ Mar 31 2014, 10:25 PM)
disclosing many transactions with subsidiary of their immediate holding company ... so are they doing something fishy too?
u also say subsidiary company.

but here, the transaction is not with subsidiary company.

Company is losing money every year? 200k/year?

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post Apr 1 2014, 03:05 PM

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how the company is related?

do u mean ictzoneventure own 100% of ictzone?
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post Mar 17 2016, 09:17 PM

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Heard that they doing good last FY.

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