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vincecyc
post Oct 4 2005, 11:17 AM

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Hi Every one,

I'm a investment consultant,

I specialist in mutual fund portfolio management,
I help people to recover loses, maximize the grow of their money to fight inflation, and utilize their EPF grow

for me, return per year of 5% or less is lousy, my target is 8% >> and above.

my target people is
people that already invest in unit trust but lose money or breake even or miss opportunity.

so if any one need any info about mutual fund can ask me.
I hope i can help you all.

thank.


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post Oct 4 2005, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(AdrianA @ Sep 30 2005, 08:36 PM)
Is Mutual Funds the same as Trust funds?

"My dad actually has someone to help him manage his MF or stocks for him while he's working. He also explained to me that there are brokers or dunno what do you call these people that advise you to buy/sell certain stocks in the day. Your returns might not be as high as these people because they help alot of people trade.

Imagine you're a broker with 100,000 in your pocket and your job is to find potential stocks to invest. Your returns are higher with that huge amount invested whilst giving back the small profit gained by people who gave you money to help invest."  etsuko

Doesnt this sounds like trust funds? Whereby there's a manager that gather all your funds and others and use them to buy stocks... I'm confused...

I did invest some money into the prudential unit trust, but so far it aint looking really good. sad.gif
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Hi, if your unit trust is no looking good, you need to to some restructuring of your portfolio, you have to stop your fund from bleeding if your need advice your can pm me or contact me.
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post Oct 4 2005, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Assassin @ Oct 3 2005, 08:33 PM)
what is the basic model to open up a mutual fund account?
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the minimun is base on fund, normally old fund is rm500, new fund is rm1000 and above.
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post Oct 4 2005, 11:34 AM

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Like, can I just leave the Stocks inside and assume it will always generate revenue for me even though I don't buy or sell more?

for stock I dun know but for unit trust fund.
absolutely no, don't ever invest into MF then leave your fund their for long time you will probably suffer losses or break even.

now aday we need to plan strategy,

be careful of those unit trust agent today
they ony will know how to sell but no service, no strategic, only get commision.
especially those part time.
I seen alot.

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post Oct 5 2005, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Oct 4 2005, 09:32 PM)
vince... care to explain what's the difference of unit trust and mutual fund?

If you don't mind, perhaps you can share your experience?

I put most of my money in mutual funds and a small sum in FD...

Besides these 2 investments, what else do you recommend?

I'm looking for somethign that is middle/long term and doesn't require too much attention...
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unit trust and mutual fund is the same just different name

what company u invest with and what fund, when invested?

where is your agent?

pls keep in mind that invest in unit trust require monitoring, and involve a lot of activities if you want to make money in it,
and in my experince in order to make money,
if the agent is good you not need to wait for long term to reap the profit.
I normally help my client to reap profit in 1-3 yrs short term or 3-5 yrs mid term.
return is 8% >> or more per annum.
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post Oct 5 2005, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Oct 5 2005, 05:31 PM)
Oh... I got my mutual fund at Public Bank since I frequent this bank often and they have quite a good reputation in mutual fund management...

How do I monitor my unit trust in your opinion?

Aside from that, do you have other form of investment to be considered?

I'm just an undergraduate now therefore my capital is not that big..haha..
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public bank is good but which particular fund you in,
public bank has around 22 fund it self, some good some is not,
this is also same situation with most unit trust com.

how u monitor for u is quit hard since u want to do all the calculation, study the market, the fund of public bank, what counter your fund is holding how the current market or future market will affect your fund, capture all the buying price and selling price of your fund, and must know when to invest what to invest and most importantly when to reap profit.

this is quit a hard work that for you since you r not in this line and no time.

I only dealing in mutual fund so i can't suggest other form of investment,
for me, i know how to make money in mutual fund,
so i think it is good to invest in it.

if u r a bumi then ASB is a good choice high divident every year.

not matter what level of people you r,
saving ur money in investment will give u a better future.
this is to be sure.

inflation is 5-6 % every years you have to find a way to deal with it.

if you need or any one need info can ask me, if i got time and i know i will happy to share with you all

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post Oct 5 2005, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Oct 5 2005, 06:15 PM)
Oh, this is the two that I bought smile.gif

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?name=PBBF

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?name=PIBFinfo

Putting my money in these investment is a good way to stop myself from spending... hahaha....
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alright if you can provide below info for me, i can do a dianogsis for you for free normally i charge a fee but this time for you bubdy free.

( As Each Fund ) you have 2 fund so two separated info
when you invested? dd/mm/yyyy eg. 01/01/2001
how much?
what is the total unit as per today?

you can find it on your latest ledjer that the bank give u.

you can pm me.
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post Oct 6 2005, 01:40 PM

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first sorry 4 late reply cause i quit busy

for assasin problem i oredi PM assasin( sorry for silly question)

like i say b4 mutual fund and unit trust is the same

doremon here post a good question

All The ASB, ASW, ASN, ASM maybe more all is different fund type belong to Amanah saham same company,

they are good, dunno why so good market down market up also give 10% and ubove reurn I wonder where they get the money from??
( dun argue of it)

some only open for BUMI, if you r not hard to get, and have limit per person should be 100K depent on fund,

i will have to find more info about it,
because my business partnership unit trust com is not Amanah saham

if you can get hold of it, get it, last time i want to get but close oredi.
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post Oct 7 2005, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Assassin @ Oct 6 2005, 08:52 PM)
More and more fund appear nowaday just make us confuse only. smile.gif
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more and more fund meant opportunities, excitment and hope and show growing of unit trust and the important of it.

Cheer yah smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2005, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(3den @ Oct 8 2005, 01:56 AM)
vincecyc,

mine to show us your portfolio?....need to know your skill...
hope you dont mind...coz i only believe ppl tht also invest rather than manage...

dude i think 8% is not good..20-30% sound better..since it is unit trust, it is risky, why not get more risky?...20-30% possible or not?

by the way where to search for company yearly dividend record? i think they sure got data base about this right?
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sorry for late reply full of appointment lately,
yes i do invest, i invest with SBB, but my investment is quit complicated because i do a lot of activities that capture market movement, i already capture my profit ( i move my money to CIF (index fund) on may 05 the move out on august 05 i capture 13% profit here), i right now parking my investmetn in SBB EIF that is income fund, i waiting for foreign fund to launch, then i will move my money there.

8% is the target that double from bank, we can't demand a lot on nowaday market, is not like last time 20% per years and more, but 8% is the target profit for most my client, if they say want more i will do my best but i will advice them of the risk the will face,
know this, the higher the return the higher the RISK.

the unit trust com will send your investment status to you, you can check there, or you can call the unit trust com to send your investment ledger to you.

but i have a custome build system to capture all this and i use it to make money for my client. that why it is better to appoint a good consultant to manage your investment.

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post Oct 9 2005, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(AdrianA @ Oct 9 2005, 06:22 PM)
Another thing about trust funds/mutual funds is that they will charge you 5% for buying every unit. Which means if you were to invest let say 10k, you may already lose RM500 the moment u invest. And since funds move so slow, it might take a while just to recover back your RM500 that they charge...if you're lucky.
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that is the services charge
but i call it the different between buying and selling price
the charge is different depent on fund,
that why you need to plan smart to earn your money in unit trust
not just dump you money in a fund forever sitting on that fund there
and hope it will grow.
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post Oct 11 2005, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(AdrianA @ Oct 10 2005, 08:13 PM)
Vince, i got one question. You mention that for your investment to grow, you have to find a consultant that is capable to monitor your investment. So exactly who is this consultant? Isnt the fund manage by a team of fund managers? Are they the ones? Or do you mean the person in which you buy the funds from? In my case, just an RHB bank personnel...and the sad thing is, that particular personnel is no longer working with the bank too. So how ah?
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A good consultant is not fund manager or banker,
it is agent that marketing unit trust and not just selling but they help the client to monitor and plan strategic to grow their client money, they doing it full time, i not saying partime is not good but provided they have time to monitor for you,

you can try to call the unit trust com. to send someone to serve you or
you can call ur UT com. to require your "investment ledjer" to fax or send to u, then you can scan it and email to me or fax to me, i will help you to monitor for you but since i have no right to plan any strategic on that unit trust com. you invested, i can only tell you your status from time to time.

since i talk to u sometime already i do this for free and fully bulan sabit work.

if you wan to fax ur ledjer to me pls call me first cause i wan to on my fax machine,
u call call me on this no: 017-6727668, fax: 7804 9133.

i glad i can help.
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post Oct 11 2005, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(spanker @ Oct 11 2005, 11:18 AM)
Even with a consultant monitoring for you, there's still no gurantee that your investments *will* grow. If that person already left, then you'll need to do the monitoring yourself, besides, that's still what you have to do even if the consultant is still working. If you bought an investment medium which you are unclear of, then start reading up on it. Or you can get another sales consultant to monitor your account, you gotta sweeten it up for him though by putting in additional funds. Can't show the stick without the carrot, know what i mean?
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yes true, but a good consultant will not monitor to see only what happen, but they will actually plan strategic on it to make sure the client money will grow, although not gurantee, nothings is gurantee, no risk no gain, doing business also not gurantee to make profit but, if you do somethings on it the risk will be reduce and increase the profit.

yes i agree with spanker you should a least know the basic of what you invest, and clear and understand what and how your agent will help you. smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2005, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 9 2005, 12:35 AM)
Yea! MF is riskier than shares
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ok, no offend, but can you share with me why u say MF is riskier than share,
have u invest in unit trust or share,
I really appreaciate,
coz i like to hear other people opinion
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post Oct 12 2005, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(AdrianA @ Oct 12 2005, 02:03 PM)
Diversify = Di"worse"sify

Robert Kiyosaki
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yeah, i agree, if don't know how to do it, it will become Di"worse"sify laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 20 2005, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Truth Practitioner @ Oct 18 2005, 09:49 PM)
If you want to invest in long-term, you can invest in mutual fund or stock market. Both can be long-term investment vehicle. However, you still need to time your investment to make sure that you get in when it is low and get out temporarily when it has reached its peak.

I don't believe in short term investing of share. It is very difficult to time your investment for short term, though not impossible. Furthermore, playing short-term share trading means you will have more transactions. With more transactions, you have to pay more fees to your broker.

FD and Bonds are very safe investment vehicles, but their return is very low. Your return may be eaten up by the higher inflation rate. Still, you can use them as a vehicle for your "emergency fund". Your fund here will not depreciate at all, unlike mutual fund and stock market.

Vince, I am very interested in investment. I am a business student now. What is the qualification to become an investment consultant? I am planning to take up CFP in the near future. What are the prospects like in this career?
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nice to hear that, good move,
being a investment consultant
i can posible earn an huge income a month equal to my 1 years income,
of course there are an incubation period b4 u can reach this level, but i already know lot of people reach this level that why i join.
because i believe that if i want different result i must do somethings different.
and beside helping people to grow their money fight against inflation, you get to know a lot of people, that the beuty of it, riches, wealth, miracle, opportunities and more only came throught people
you only can became an investment consultant at least 21 above.

let me share with u 1 things very important, alot of people/consultant out there just like to recruit new people under them, but think about this can they train you to success, dun let their nice car trap you.
success is not just money, it more than that.

and career opportunity is good but it is only business opportunity that can make you rich and success.

hope you success and god bless you.

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post Oct 20 2005, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(AdrianA @ Oct 19 2005, 04:46 AM)
I read somewhere that dividends actually makes no difference in the end to your investment. I think it says that if they were to give you some bonus units, shares, etc, the price of the stocks/unit trust will decrease base on how much dividends that was given. So in the end, there is no increase in your investment. Is this true?

Oh btw, where can i find more info about ASW? And how can i invest in it? Seems like its quite a strong trust fund.
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There are unit split and divident in UT (unit trust)

UNIT SPLIT
unit split is where there give free unit to unit holder, but since there are more unit in circulation, NAV/unit will drop, result in selling and buying price drop,
but when added up your total Amount in there is still the same, but when the prices go up again, you got more unit and you will get more

Divident
divident is where and fund issue bonus to unit holder, since the use to fund money to give to you, the total fund NAV will drop, resulting selling and buying price drop,
but when added up your total Amount plus bonus in there is still the same, but when the prices go up again, you will get back your ori amount plus bonuses

this two aproach normally use to lower the selling prices so that more investor will invest into it since prices drop.


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post Oct 21 2005, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 12 2005, 02:46 AM)
Hmm..i did write it be4 i said this statement. Its in page 5.....hehe... smile.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=200069&st=80

Its the TIME.....

Anyway....my story...
me, not much knowledge in investment and also dun dare to buy any investment.
But...i did buy 1 share, YTL WB at 92cents for the fun of it.....and it went down to 60cents within a month!...so oredi lost RM320 but i didnt sell and didnt bothered to look at it for a year coz disappointed at my stupidity or so i tot! after a year...when i finally look at my shares, it went up to 1.20! meaning made profit of RM280....which is around than 30% profit for 1 year if i sell..which i did!

My fren.....who bought unit trust at RM5000......and kept topping up every month.....couldnt even get wat i got for less than 1k in a year's time....and worst thing is, his unit trust kept depreciating in value and its taking its own sweet time to climb.......

the morale of my story.....
eventho MF seemed less risky, the time for it to go up n down is taking like foreva! Whereelse Shares, if chosen properly, even if go down, will go up again with lotsa patience....at a faster pace. So to me, MF is risky and costly. Shares.....seemed risky, but actually is not. Coz the TIME i use to get back my money, i could have use the profit to top up more instead of my own money! Btw...Unit Trust also invest in shares ma....i believe u know how to do the cal, else u wont be investing in shares in the 1st place?

hehe...sorry if i m wrong...just my point of view....me not good investor...chicken  sweat.gif
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yes i understand your friend situation, i think your friend is the right person i looking for, i specialize in helping people to turn around their investment portfolio, i looking for people who invested but losing money or not happy with their investment, i have a way to do it, ask your friend to call me and we meet up and further discuss abt it.

Vince
my contact is 017-6727668

or give ur friend contact i will call,
any one intersted to know more can call me,
the choices is simple
know a way to earn more and fight Against inflation or
you can put your money in bank and let the money virus eat up ur money
inflation is money virus.
cheer vince
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post Oct 25 2005, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Akane Soma @ Oct 21 2005, 08:24 PM)
Hi i am new here.
I have a few questions need to ask
If i have just ventured into the working world, and i would like to put aside some amount of money every month into an investment where can i go?
I saw something called Premier Value Savers from Maybank. Anyone can comment on that?
I don't have that much of RM10k to dump in an investment and wait for it to grow as i know it will take ages just to get a good profit.
Anyone have any recommendations?

Vince u from dj?might want to learn more from u or shud i just give a call? thumbup.gif
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I'm From Pj Damansara jaya ss 24, if want u want to do a regular saving on investment you can give me a call, i can share with you more, then i can create a portfolio for you yah,
017-6727668
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post Oct 25 2005, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(playplay321 @ Oct 21 2005, 09:29 PM)
Malaysia market has been drop sharply these few days.... very bad outlook.... hopefully the market will regain its composure in short time. My unit trust din escape the trend as well.... sad.gif
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fell sorry for you, if you din't escape from the bear (down trend) of the market, it is very ovious that YOUR CONSULTANT Didn't do any things for your investment, want to know more give me a call, i can help you.

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