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Investment (Local and International), Everything About Investment
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jsm
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Feb 6 2006, 05:39 PM
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IT slave
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Not worrying about investing for your children or retirement from the beginning is a mistake.
Time and compounding are amazing. A person who just graduates and puts aside 2000 a year for the first 4 years (total investment of 8000 RM) can stop putting money aside and in 30 years will find their 8000 investment to have turned into over RM 113,0000 ringgit if they managed 10% each year.
If however, another person decides to put money aside for their kids/retirement 20 years after they start working, and even if they put 5000 a year away for 10 years (total investment of 50,000) they will still have around only 92,000 RM. Less than the guy who put away his money early.
This post has been edited by jsm: Feb 6 2006, 05:41 PM
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jsm
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Feb 6 2006, 05:50 PM
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IT slave
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 6 2006, 05:47 PM) How to do an effective compounding investment? Recommend some ... Stitchy® Simple - find a mutual fund that has good 5, 10 year returns (e.g. >5%) and start putting money away immediatley each month for a few years. - use the rule of 72 to see how long it takes for your money to double (e.g. if investing at 5% a year, divide 72 by 5 and you find your money doubles in 14 years, if investing at 10% a years, 72/10 = 7.2 years to double your money) - wait and invest further if possible
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jsm
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Feb 6 2006, 07:42 PM
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IT slave
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QUOTE(Geminist @ Feb 6 2006, 07:35 PM) Another thing I guess is to find a mutual funds with a low management fees ... It's kinda absurb even before you start earning, part of your earnings already went somewhere else ... Management cost has quite alot of influence in the earnings of a mutual funds when it comes to long term investment  Most mutual funds (overseas at least) report their returns after considering management fees. If the management of one fund is very cheap (e.g. 0.5%) but they manage to make a return of only 5% on the fund, I will rather buy the fund that has management fee of 3% but manages to return 10%. I personally never look at the management fees but only look at the return on my money.
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jsm
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Feb 11 2006, 12:56 PM
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IT slave
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 11 2006, 12:12 PM) This is strange as my financial planner is quoting a investment-linked proposal from Great Eastern Life. Anything fishy here? Stitchy® Probably just the usual situation where financial planners are often little more than commission sales people for various financial products. If you want good advice, go to a financial planner that is truly independent, which also means that you will have to pay for their advice.
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jsm
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Feb 13 2006, 12:37 AM
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IT slave
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 12 2006, 06:27 PM) You still do not GET it. It is all money.
A) If you can get a bigger housing loan to finance the car purchase. You will save a lot of interest. Few banks are likely give you a loan in excess of the appraised value of a property. Dreamer101, are you also suggesting that car loans are not based on the concept of compounded interest charges? If that is the case that is most unusual. Over here in Canada, the interest charges for loans are legally mandated to acrue semi-annually and a 5% loan for a car or 5% loan for a mortgage will end up costing the same in interest charges over the same period of time.
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jsm
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Feb 15 2006, 08:21 AM
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IT slave
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Feb 15 2006, 12:06 AM) things.....insurance(don't ever neglect this esp if you're married) and tax deductability Can you explain the "tax deductability" aspect further? I am not familiar with Malaysian tax issues pertaining to insurance. I know that over here in Canada, insurance premiums are not tax deductable but one of the benefits is that when you die and the life insurance is paid out to the beneficiaries that unlike almost all other financial instruments it will not be considered taxable income to your estate or to those it was paid to. How about Malaysia?
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jsm
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Feb 15 2006, 10:26 AM
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IT slave
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Feb 15 2006, 10:07 AM) With effect from Y/A 2005(year of assessment) onwards, relief for Life insurance premium AND contributions to approved funds (eg EPF) shall be Rm 6,000 per annum. Proceeds from life insurance,afaik,is not liable to income tax but is subject to estate duty.Pls correct me if i'm wrong. Over here in Canada a 750,000 RM term life insurance policy (20 year validity) costs a 25 year old (non-smoker) less than 100 RM/month. The cost of a life insurance policy in malaysia should be even lower. It is certainly nice that in malaysia the premiums can be deducted from your income for tax purposes but the tax deductability would hardly seem to be a strong reason to actually buy the insurance. In fact, I wouldn't even suggest a young unmarried person even worry about life insurance since upon their death they would not have any dependents who need income. If your parents are too poor to afford a funeral for you, a small life insurance policy that is enough to cover funeral expenses would be appropriate.
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jsm
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Feb 15 2006, 10:45 AM
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IT slave
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 15 2006, 10:33 AM) Term life insurance in Malaysia is either unavailable or costs an order of magnitude higher than what is available in USA. If USA's price is the same as Canada, the same should hold true. Life insurance only make sense in Malaysia for people who want protection up to RM 100K to RM 200K. For experienced professional like you, RM 100K to RM200K is probably nothing to you. If you want protection up to RM 1 million, that is highly unusual for Malaysian, the premium is so high that you must as well self-insure and save the your own money. This is from my own personal shopping experience for term life insurance in Malaysia. Dreamer 200,000 RM life insurance in Malaysia is probably about the same equivalent to a RM750,000 life insurance policy in Canada. It could pay off the outstanding portion on a house mortgage in the event a sole-wage earner has an early death. My point is that buying life insurance is not an investment or something that is done to reduce your taxable income, it is something you buy only to cover the costs your dependents may have in the event of an early death for a wage earner.
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jsm
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Feb 17 2006, 08:36 PM
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IT slave
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QUOTE(zacchie:) @ Feb 17 2006, 06:53 PM) helo peeps, im new in investment just opened my cds account today.sigh.. ermm btw i got 5000ringgit to start...any advice or suggestion in what share should i buy...not looking for quick return i just want smething stable ^^ Digi a good share?? The KLSE is not a place for "stable" investments. KLSE is highly speculative. Even blue-chips stocks like Telekom have been lousy investments over the last 5 year period.
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