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Darkmage12
post Sep 18 2006, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Sep 14 2006, 11:29 PM)
single stock future seldom got trading le sweat.gif
Darkmage12
post Sep 24 2006, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 22 2006, 02:10 PM)
jus saw newspaper got anounce new two funds from amanah raya berhad (who manages asw2020 etc)...so where can i buy it?
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go to those banks like Maybank ,RHB BCHB and so they got sell
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post Sep 24 2006, 05:56 PM

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earlier got la CIMB
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post Oct 22 2006, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Oct 16 2006, 04:13 PM)
Anybody knows about the forex investments seminar happening in Legend Hotel? The price is RM389 inclusive of lunch. But I'm jus wondering is it worth the money meaning to say, is it really good or what?  sweat.gif
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i think this 1 very fake.... alot of seminars going around recently

QUOTE(pidah @ Oct 20 2006, 04:07 PM)
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Fund vs Fund By Fund Type From 01 July 2003 To 06 October 2006

(Fund-1) - PUBLIC ITTIKAL- PUBLIC MUTUAL  Return 56.08%
(Fund-2) - MAA MUTUAL ALFAID- MAA KL Return 40.71%
(Fund-3) - SBB DANA AL-IHSAN - SBB  Return 14.65%
(Fund-4) - MAYBAN DANA IKHLAS -MAYBANK Return -15.03%
(Fund-5) - AMITTIKAL - ARAB MALAYSIAN Return  -16.65%

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Public Mutual mostly have returns exceeding 50% for 3-5 year period which is quite ok but i prefer stock market brows.gif

Darkmage12
post Oct 30 2006, 12:13 AM

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hey the DJIA last hit their all time high in 2000 and now it seem the signs are a bull run might be ignited since tech stocks are up across the board icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 2 2006, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 1 2006, 04:30 PM)
Malaysia is now the least attractive bourse among Asian countries, even JCY (one of the biggest hdd manufacturer based in JB) has postponed the listing in KLSE and consider to be listed in Singapore or HK as The Edge reported. KLSE really lack of quality company to be invested, also liquidity is quite low which make some listing meaningless.

Unless there is major restructuring of GLCs company, and policy revamp, it is difficult to attract really serious foreign interest and fund coming. We don't need hedge fund that 'goreng' Iris like mad which won't do any good to the market.
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it seems they have stop gorenging Iris.... no more huge price change on it

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post Nov 3 2006, 12:05 PM

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earlier this year there was 1 hedge fund from US suffering huge loses right? they under investigation also now
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post Nov 4 2006, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 4 2006, 12:06 PM)
Ah Long is illegal in Malaysia, you might be sued if doing this...
It's not an investment if we do something illegal...
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actually it's illegal to even loan ur fren money.... according to the law only those with license can do that
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post Nov 5 2006, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Nov 4 2006, 07:38 PM)
I think it's legal as long you do not charge interest. That's all... License means u can charge interest.  whistling.gif
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even if you dun charge interest it's still illegal.... but then nobody cares about it cos no 1 even knows it's illegal laugh.gif
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post Nov 6 2006, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 5 2006, 11:33 PM)
David83,

Let me play devil advocate here and ask why?? Why I cannot buy an investment that pays me immediately and pay me every year?? It is my choice and if it is NOT a good deal, I do not have to buy!!!  I can keep my money in the FD until I find a good deal.  This is my strategy for my money in Malaysia.

In 2005, I buy the best managed Malaysian Bank stock at RM6.80 (including commission).  It pays $0.55 commission last year.  This give me yield of 8%.  This year I get dividend of $0.40.  This gives me yield of 5.9%.  Looks like this will be the yield going forward.  I am NOT even looking at appreciation.

What is the risk?? Yes, it is higher than FD.  But, this bank survived the last recession and if this bank goes to hell, you can forget about the whole KLSE too.  It is about the same risk as the KLSE index.  Until foreign bank can come in, all local banks enjoy a margin of 3% to 4% ( difference between loan and FD rate).  The banks will make a lot of money.

So, please tell me why am I buying unit trust?? Where I lose a few percents when I buy and a few percents every year??  For foreign exposure, why not buying mutual fund from US companies like Vanguard??  There is no load and annual maintenance of less than one percent??

ASB may make sense if I am a bumi.  But, other than that why??

Dreamer

P.S.:

1)  The lot size is 1,000 shares.  I can save my money in FD until I have enough money.  Since the dividend is around $0.40, I can wait until the share price is low enough and yield is attractive to me.  I make money when I buy.

2) This is part of my portfolio of FD, real estate, and banking stock.  I have enough cash for 2 years of expenses in FD.  So, I have enough money for a normal recession.
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How long have you been holding on to PB? if you had it since 1996 it would have given you a return of around 300% which turns out to be 30% per annum which is very good.....while it is still consistently given dividends of at least 7% every year.... bear in mind it's dividends only while if there are capital appreciation you get more smile.gif
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post Nov 7 2006, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 6 2006, 09:50 PM)
<<it's dividends only while if there are capital appreciation you get more>>

Darkmage12,

You only get capital appreciation if you SELL the stock.  The goal/strategy here is to buy stock that pay you good dividend every year.  You make money every year without selling the stock.  So, your statement of 30% per annum is ONLY REAL when you sell the stock.  I only bought PB at 2005.

For some people that bought PB at RM3, their dividend yield is around 13%.  Why should they ever sell the stock??

Dreamer
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yeah but still the dividend returns were almost like 200% over the 10 year period 1 mention smile.gif

QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 7 2006, 12:04 PM)
i thought all stocks in malaysia trade in 100 shares a lot? but then u said PB = 1000 shares a lot?

where to check those stuff? i've been thru Malaysia investor and bursa malaysia website, no such info.
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IIRC they changed all the lot sizes to 100 to make it easier for the public to invest in it.... only some shares have lot sizes in 200/1000....still many are used to calling 1 lot as 1000 shares as it was practice last time smile.gif

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 7 2006, 12:49 PM)
As far as I know only a few stocks are in 100 shares lot.  Majority is in 1,000 shares lot.  I might be wrong.

Dreamer
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i think you might be wrong in this.... im not sure myself cos many are still using 1000 shares /lot
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post Nov 7 2006, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 7 2006, 03:48 PM)
I guess you must be one of the old-timer laugh.gif
It has been changed since couple of years ago biggrin.gif
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/bm/tr.../board_lot.html
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ya haha.... i knew i was right on this.... btw devil how come got people selling their odd lot at funny prices? odd lot can trade?


QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 7 2006, 06:49 PM)
So, if the economic crisis comes again, it's the time for us to invest in some stable and well-managed companies. Buy the share when price low, getting high dividend every year, then sell it when the market is high...you can maximize your investment returns.
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but then not all well-managed companies share prices will drop such steep and even if it does drop not many are willing to go into it
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post Nov 7 2006, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 7 2006, 09:52 PM)
Leekk8,

Let me repeat one more time, if you get high dividend every year, why would you ever sell the stock?? In the case of buying PB at $0.68, it pays $0.40 every year.  Why would you want to sell??

You only sell a stock if and only if you get better ROI by investing it on something else.
<< if it does drop not many are willing to go into it>>

Darkmage,

That is why you get a low price aka on-sale.

You make money by NOT following the herd.  People are cows and they follow the herd.  So, they buy high and sell low.

For high dividend yielding stock, when the price drop and you get a high yield, you do not have to sell the stock to make money.  So, you could collect dividend forever while waiting for the price to go up.  You are making money every year.

To be separated from cows/herd, you need to KNOW how to calculate.  You need  to know when something is a good deal. 

Let's take an extreme example, let's say stock A pay $0.40 per year of dividend and the the stock drop to $4.  And, I buy the stock.  The dividend yield is 10%.  But, the stock drop to $2.  So, what??  Did I lose money??  No, I still have a stock that yield 10% per year for me.  In fact, I can hold on the stock and collect dividend until I can find a even better deal.  I had made my money when I buy the stock.

Dreamer
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but then you have suffered a paper lost of $2
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post Nov 8 2006, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 8 2006, 09:18 AM)
People doesnt sell odd lot for fun  tongue.gif
Odd lots are usually given out as bonus issue, share split or reverse split.
For example, Stock A declares a bonus issue 1 for 10
So if you are holding 100 units it your holding will eventually becomes 110 units.
However, as the normal market is traded in board lot of 100 units, you can only dispose it in odd lot market. And yes there is such a market but usually the commission rate will be higher. biggrin.gif
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then odd lot hard to sell?
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post Nov 8 2006, 10:25 AM

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@leekk8
you should do contra trading
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post Nov 8 2006, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 8 2006, 02:20 PM)
omg is the market really that good ?
i just called my broker wanted to place an order for the new call warrant on MPLANT which is only open for sale today, and heck, it was over-subscribed by lunch time sweat.gif
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hey i thought you cannot trade ?
Darkmage12
post Nov 15 2006, 10:59 AM

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open new subforum better la cos all discuss here very hard
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:06 PM

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Public Mutual fund sure bright future la all the funds got many awards smile.gif
btw luqmanz you wat branch 1
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post Dec 13 2006, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(magnum @ Dec 13 2006, 12:43 PM)
what is Mesdaq?
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Mesdaq normally for those company with high growth potential and those tech companies
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post Dec 15 2006, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(weiheng @ Dec 15 2006, 09:18 AM)
hmm.. I read about some economist commend about infavourable tax structure after budget 2007.
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they are lowering it even further.... btw some newer REIT are offering like 8-9% now do check it out smile.gif

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