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AdrianA
post Oct 19 2005, 04:46 AM

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I read somewhere that dividends actually makes no difference in the end to your investment. I think it says that if they were to give you some bonus units, shares, etc, the price of the stocks/unit trust will decrease base on how much dividends that was given. So in the end, there is no increase in your investment. Is this true?

Oh btw, where can i find more info about ASW? And how can i invest in it? Seems like its quite a strong trust fund.
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QUOTE(AdrianA @ Oct 19 2005, 04:46 AM)
I read somewhere that dividends actually makes no difference in the end to your investment. I think it says that if they were to give you some bonus units, shares, etc, the price of the stocks/unit trust will decrease base on how much dividends that was given. So in the end, there is no increase in your investment. Is this true?

Oh btw, where can i find more info about ASW? And how can i invest in it? Seems like its quite a strong trust fund.
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You go to http://simpanduit.com/. Talk the the Bantuan Online at the very right conner. He can assist you 101%.
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post Oct 19 2005, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Oct 19 2005, 04:21 AM)
Hmm, then about stock...

Where do you actually go and look for stock??

I meant ppl kept on talking about looking at the stock/company's profile and etc... How do I start looking for a stock? IMHO, there are soooo many companies listed ....

*I'm not trying to invest in any now, just wanted to know how to start .... LIke where to look for info and how to evaluate the stock and etc smile.gif
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I am not so sure how to go about looking for the best stock. I am still learning. I have never invested before.

From what I heard, you should choose the stock of companies in the industry which is currently on an uptrend. That means that industry is going to prosper in the future. You need to read up a lot to know what industry is going to be hot. Sometimes, you'll have to make your own prediction based on what you researched.

However, some people advise that we should not be concentrating only on one industry. They use the term "diversification". You should spread your investment across several industry. Preferably, choose industry that is not related to one another. The idea is to reduce your risk. When one industry fails, you can cover your losses from the profits you make from another industry which is prospering. But personally, I have doubts about how to go about diversifying... If one lose, one win, then we get nothing right? Haha!

In choosing a company, you need to ensure that it has a good track record. You don't want to buy a company that is making losses for the past 10 years and is on the brink of bankruptcy. Choose a company with steady and growing profit.

Correct me if I am wrong. I am still learning... Don't take my words too seriously...
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post Oct 19 2005, 11:18 PM

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from what i hear, outlook for share market and bond market in M'sia not so good. so if want to invest in shares/unit trusts - must be prepared to leave ur $$ there for a while if the markets really turn bad. so better to invest spare cash, not life savings.

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post Oct 20 2005, 01:40 AM

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Erm, yes, frankly speaking.... Most veteran investors don't really look too much on Malaysia's share market....

The reason behind it's because alot of listed companies are run by not so honest business people ...

That is one of the reason why I changed my mind about increasing my investment in mutual fund smile.gif
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post Oct 20 2005, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Oct 20 2005, 01:40 AM)
Erm, yes, frankly speaking.... Most veteran investors don't really look too much on Malaysia's share market....

The reason behind it's because alot of listed companies are run by not so honest business people ...

That is one of the reason why I changed my mind about increasing my investment in mutual fund smile.gif
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Hi,

http://flagship4.vanguard.com/VGApp/hnw/Fu...&FundIntExt=INT

I am not very smart and hardworking as far as invetsment is concerned. For those people that are outisde of Malaysia and can invest in this. This is what I invest: VSMGX

One mutual fund that is allocated to 4 mutual funds. It is divesified to 2,000 US stocks, 3,000 US bonds, and about 200 stocks around the world.

Dreamer
vincecyc
post Oct 20 2005, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Truth Practitioner @ Oct 18 2005, 09:49 PM)
If you want to invest in long-term, you can invest in mutual fund or stock market. Both can be long-term investment vehicle. However, you still need to time your investment to make sure that you get in when it is low and get out temporarily when it has reached its peak.

I don't believe in short term investing of share. It is very difficult to time your investment for short term, though not impossible. Furthermore, playing short-term share trading means you will have more transactions. With more transactions, you have to pay more fees to your broker.

FD and Bonds are very safe investment vehicles, but their return is very low. Your return may be eaten up by the higher inflation rate. Still, you can use them as a vehicle for your "emergency fund". Your fund here will not depreciate at all, unlike mutual fund and stock market.

Vince, I am very interested in investment. I am a business student now. What is the qualification to become an investment consultant? I am planning to take up CFP in the near future. What are the prospects like in this career?
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nice to hear that, good move,
being a investment consultant
i can posible earn an huge income a month equal to my 1 years income,
of course there are an incubation period b4 u can reach this level, but i already know lot of people reach this level that why i join.
because i believe that if i want different result i must do somethings different.
and beside helping people to grow their money fight against inflation, you get to know a lot of people, that the beuty of it, riches, wealth, miracle, opportunities and more only came throught people
you only can became an investment consultant at least 21 above.

let me share with u 1 things very important, alot of people/consultant out there just like to recruit new people under them, but think about this can they train you to success, dun let their nice car trap you.
success is not just money, it more than that.

and career opportunity is good but it is only business opportunity that can make you rich and success.

hope you success and god bless you.

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post Oct 20 2005, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(AdrianA @ Oct 19 2005, 04:46 AM)
I read somewhere that dividends actually makes no difference in the end to your investment. I think it says that if they were to give you some bonus units, shares, etc, the price of the stocks/unit trust will decrease base on how much dividends that was given. So in the end, there is no increase in your investment. Is this true?

Oh btw, where can i find more info about ASW? And how can i invest in it? Seems like its quite a strong trust fund.
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There are unit split and divident in UT (unit trust)

UNIT SPLIT
unit split is where there give free unit to unit holder, but since there are more unit in circulation, NAV/unit will drop, result in selling and buying price drop,
but when added up your total Amount in there is still the same, but when the prices go up again, you got more unit and you will get more

Divident
divident is where and fund issue bonus to unit holder, since the use to fund money to give to you, the total fund NAV will drop, resulting selling and buying price drop,
but when added up your total Amount plus bonus in there is still the same, but when the prices go up again, you will get back your ori amount plus bonuses

this two aproach normally use to lower the selling prices so that more investor will invest into it since prices drop.


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post Oct 21 2005, 09:05 AM

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Oversea investment is a good steps to take but where can we start?
vincecyc
post Oct 21 2005, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 12 2005, 02:46 AM)
Hmm..i did write it be4 i said this statement. Its in page 5.....hehe... smile.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=200069&st=80

Its the TIME.....

Anyway....my story...
me, not much knowledge in investment and also dun dare to buy any investment.
But...i did buy 1 share, YTL WB at 92cents for the fun of it.....and it went down to 60cents within a month!...so oredi lost RM320 but i didnt sell and didnt bothered to look at it for a year coz disappointed at my stupidity or so i tot! after a year...when i finally look at my shares, it went up to 1.20! meaning made profit of RM280....which is around than 30% profit for 1 year if i sell..which i did!

My fren.....who bought unit trust at RM5000......and kept topping up every month.....couldnt even get wat i got for less than 1k in a year's time....and worst thing is, his unit trust kept depreciating in value and its taking its own sweet time to climb.......

the morale of my story.....
eventho MF seemed less risky, the time for it to go up n down is taking like foreva! Whereelse Shares, if chosen properly, even if go down, will go up again with lotsa patience....at a faster pace. So to me, MF is risky and costly. Shares.....seemed risky, but actually is not. Coz the TIME i use to get back my money, i could have use the profit to top up more instead of my own money! Btw...Unit Trust also invest in shares ma....i believe u know how to do the cal, else u wont be investing in shares in the 1st place?

hehe...sorry if i m wrong...just my point of view....me not good investor...chicken  sweat.gif
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yes i understand your friend situation, i think your friend is the right person i looking for, i specialize in helping people to turn around their investment portfolio, i looking for people who invested but losing money or not happy with their investment, i have a way to do it, ask your friend to call me and we meet up and further discuss abt it.

Vince
my contact is 017-6727668

or give ur friend contact i will call,
any one intersted to know more can call me,
the choices is simple
know a way to earn more and fight Against inflation or
you can put your money in bank and let the money virus eat up ur money
inflation is money virus.
cheer vince
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post Oct 21 2005, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Assassin @ Oct 21 2005, 09:05 AM)
Oversea investment is a good steps to take but where can we start?
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I have been following an article that appears every weekend (either Saturday or Sunday in The Star) on investing in foreign country. It seems that there are certain funds that let you put your money in foreign countries' investment vehicles. However, I am not sure whether we can invest as individuals.
(Correct me if I am wrong)
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Hi i am new here.
I have a few questions need to ask
If i have just ventured into the working world, and i would like to put aside some amount of money every month into an investment where can i go?
I saw something called Premier Value Savers from Maybank. Anyone can comment on that?
I don't have that much of RM10k to dump in an investment and wait for it to grow as i know it will take ages just to get a good profit.
Anyone have any recommendations?

Vince u from dj?might want to learn more from u or shud i just give a call? thumbup.gif
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post Oct 21 2005, 09:29 PM

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Malaysia market has been drop sharply these few days.... very bad outlook.... hopefully the market will regain its composure in short time. My unit trust din escape the trend as well.... sad.gif
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post Oct 21 2005, 09:53 PM

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Any reputable companies to recommend?
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QUOTE(Akane Soma @ Oct 21 2005, 08:24 PM)
Hi i am new here.
I have a few questions need to ask
If i have just ventured into the working world, and i would like to put aside some amount of money every month into an investment where can i go?
I saw something called Premier Value Savers from Maybank. Anyone can comment on that?
I don't have that much of RM10k to dump in an investment and wait for it to grow as i know it will take ages just to get a good profit.
Anyone have any recommendations?

Vince u from dj?might want to learn more from u or shud i just give a call? thumbup.gif
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Well you can talk to the banks about that. Personally I'd say blue chip stocks are one of the safest long-term investments. Not a bad return (considering the alternatives) but you have to hold it long term.. treat it as a sort of retirement fund. Also real estate is good -- if you get a good area you can get pretty good rental income.
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QUOTE(Truth Practitioner @ Oct 21 2005, 08:13 PM)
I have been following an article that appears every weekend (either Saturday or Sunday in The Star) on investing in foreign country. It seems that there are certain funds that let you put your money in foreign countries' investment vehicles. However, I am not sure whether we can invest as individuals.
(Correct me if I am wrong)
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Well sure you can if you know them well enough.
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post Oct 22 2005, 06:59 AM

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hi guys,
as the thread title suggests, i'd like to know how people make personal loan? where do they apply, from finance or banks? i see this loaning scheme is quite the same with the quick cash option that we usually see nowadays. any difference in between these 2 scheme?
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post Oct 23 2005, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Truth Practitioner @ Oct 21 2005, 08:13 PM)
I have been following an article that appears every weekend (either Saturday or Sunday in The Star) on investing in foreign country. It seems that there are certain funds that let you put your money in foreign countries' investment vehicles. However, I am not sure whether we can invest as individuals.
(Correct me if I am wrong)
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And even if we can invest oversea, it need a huge amount of money maybe 10k above. Local market not so good now, very hard to invest.
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post Oct 24 2005, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Assassin @ Oct 23 2005, 09:51 PM)
And even if we can invest oversea, it need a huge amount of money maybe 10k above. Local market not so good now, very hard to invest.
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Yeah, if you were to invest overseas on your own, you need to have a huge capital. But I think there are a few funds available catering for such need. They pool all small capital together to invest abroad. What funds? I have no idea... Maybe someone can enlighten us here...
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post Oct 24 2005, 01:06 PM

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I have read "The Armchair Millionaire". The authors emphasized so much on the effectiveness of "dollar cost averaging". Basically, the idea is to set aside a fixed amount of money to the stock market every month regardless of the market condition. This will work if the market is on an uptrend in the longterm. That's the case in US.

What about KLSE? Is it on an uptrend in the longterm, say 10 years? What is the average yearly increase? Can the average beat other return rates from other vehicles like bond and FD?

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