most weekend i go to hike Bukit Ah Pek (Bkt Wangsa),.. Nearest Waterfall in KL...





can camp here:


but always full on weekend



last time i use to cook with cap ayam fire starter,..


but lately i just bought a camping stove with normal rm5 butane canister,... my camping equipment is already complete...


PS: to hikers, pls make a habit to pickup bits of rubbish on ur way out in a plastic bag tie outside ur bag,... normally me and my friends do it, to persevered the only nature park we inherited,... There's no Bandaraya going to pick up rubbish in the jungle.... thank you,...

This post has been edited by randyhow: Aug 15 2011, 03:52 PM

thats why we need to re-educate them,... normally if i see another gang hiking, if they throw rubbish, i wud just pick it up and put into my rubbish bag (if dirty then wash with water fist), right in front of them.. they wub normally startle and a bit malu 1,.. i wud smile to them and tell them it's okay,... just a few gram on my back, i can carry it out... then they wud chat with u,... tell them how it help if every1 adopt this habit....

the wrong way is this: u saw some1 throw rubbish, u scold them,... they angry, they won't learn,...

i sometimes bring tin food too... it's easy cooking....

1) Sarawak,... wanna go some day.. but wanna go kk 1st... highest of SEA..

2) i go in by puchong near a shoplot with 99mart,... i tried to find the pool, but half way dark liao, mission fail,... i got record my trail,... see i can find or not,.. later post it here..

3) broga... near semenyih right?.. light hike only right?... as well go nuang,... more kaw kaw

4) gasing hill -kindergarden hike

5) i went there for mountain biking....

Okay found my Ayer Hitam Trail liao,... starting from puchong...



but at the end dark liao, and no torch light, reverse back,... last 30 minutes out, had to use handphone as torch light to come out,..... out at 8.00 pm....

yup it's private land belong to the UPM,... u can go legally by another entrance where got guard and register there i heard some1 said,... but haven't explore there yet...

i'm using ReliRescue for winmo 6...

http://www.logelog.com/utils/

i think Android or Iphong shud got equivalents Apps... but i'm still using ancient artifacts...HTC Touch 3g..

i think u shud try to search Apps for hikers,.. and GPS battery consumption is high, mine the software got energy saving feature but still 3 hours only... for long hike better bring extra battery or battery extension for ipong (got sell at LYN)...

for ayer hitam i think u can register at the guard house on the main entrance,... i go in by puchong is illegal 1,...



this line blocking is on the max climb, max altitude location,.. (but i doubt it is max though, my GPS not that accurate)....

nite hiking is very cooling when u sweat, sometimes i took off my shirt,.. but Nuang got Nike(pacat)....

random tips: hiking with slow but long pace are more tiring than fast short pace, especially when climb or descend slope...

i used to organize a camping party with about 30-40 ppls,.. but 4x4 trips not hiking at Kuala Kubu Baru (near the water dam),.. we brought amplifier, big speaker, pasar malam generator , booze and party in the jungle,... 1 gal birthday, we lite up the whole river with candle (it 's very beautiful), she so touch she cry that nite,...it's quite fun with many ppl,... but for hiking i prefer smaller party, cos making sure every1 is safe is quite a hassle (there's some who scare to touch moss or dare not to cross river), and co-operate-ability among members sometimes is pain in the ass (some who like to act like boss)... sometimes i prefer solo for hiking,.. but for 4x4 u need at least 1 assistant...

tips: do squat at gym can strengthen ur leg muscle, and leg cramp usually is due to lack of salt,.. bring along some salt..

u never heard of rave party b4?... it's fun...

pollution?... do u know in the jungle oxygen level is >21% and in the city is <20% oxygen?,.. the plant in the jungle are hunger of CO2 and the power generator is smaller than a car engine,.. the CO2 generated wud be clean by the plant lesser than 1 day,... do u know that agriculturist pump in CO2 to their plant for healthier crops?.. our CO2 generation is miniscule than a kapcai generate in the city..

use this type of gas?




if use this type i'm not interested

i'm currently using this


it is easier to find this cartridge and it is cheaper...

ermmm... how is using generator in the jungle is wrong?.. those living outside power grid kenot use generator too?

camp fire pollute more,..



u saying camp fire is wrong?... then don't ever bbq..

how is using generator burning forest?... when i said i'm burning ur house?...

explain...

i'm not ur daiko,.. feel ashamed to have a brother like this.. grow up,.. we're sharing fun here,.. u looking for fight..

okay forget 'bout that bozo...

contrary to him,.. camp fire is very nostalgic to campers...

Camp Fire

Fire is the vital survival for any campers,.. the story of camp fire goes long ago,.. after caveman discover use of fire, the relationship with campfire begin,... at 1st they warm themselves on cold,.. then they figure it scared away predators,..after they figure out that they can cook with fire, they can eat and digest more things.. this make them smart b'cos of better nutrient,.. caveman appreciate fire and sometimes worship it,..

ancient ppl not only utilize fire,.. they celebrate around them, (proof: watch tribal ceremony, mostly around camp fire),.. i remember as a scout, we modern ppl also like to tell story, play games, sing song or play guitar around campfire,.. Jamborees is always the most exiting event in my scout's day...

if the weather is not wet, i'll always look for fire woods (i seldom chop wood, picking from ground shud be dryer, freshly chop is hard to burn)..

here the video how to build a campfire (kiddies knowlegde but a lot of adults dunno)
just basic tinder, kinder, and fuel



this 1 is harder

i'm a responsible camper,.. all the member help clean up,pick-up rubbish and drive it out with 4x4,... even when hiking i bring out rubbish,... remember i mention b4, it is a good practice to bring along extra plastic for rubbish?..

ghost?... u believe too much on campfire scary story,.. there's too much myth about the jungle, some said don't bring eggs, it attract ghost,... don't bring pork, u'll anger the spirit,.. i don't believe all those, i sometimes brought luncheon meat,... nothing happen to me,..

it is the beast that u shud scared of,.. if there's loud noise, it will scared them off,.. and clean up all ur cooking and keep ur food seal tight (either in plastic bag or container) to avoid scavenger,... but i doubt there's really any big predator nowadays,... i heard Ayer Hitam Puchong got Jaguar, but dunno how true it is,.. for save guard, get a long pole, and sharpen the end, that can ward off some animal,..

nope u r wrong,... the connection between the fire and the canister of my stove are more longer than campinggaz blueuet stove... and heat don't dissipate into canister, instead the canister is cooler when u using it,.. don't believe me,.. touch ur stove canister after few minutes using it, it got cooling droplets around it like outside of ice water glass..

i'm been using it for years,... it cheaper and saver than those blue thingy,.. beside mine don't have to use up all my gas,.. it can dissemble and assemble easily,.. else those blue thingy once fitted on u had to use all the gas up b4 u can dissemble it (unless some got a valve there)

can u tell me what is drip rings?... tanks...