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TSlowlowc
post Aug 14 2011, 09:16 AM, updated 15y ago

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My house has a yard like this which i'm going to use as laundry area. As I don't want rain splashing in making the grille rust and rust stain on the wall later, I wish to add normal swing window to it. What will be the estimated cost? Its size is about 11'4"x3'8". Beside it, there's a grille door, what should I do with it to waterproof the grille door area? These grilles came originally with the house. Thanks.

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post Aug 14 2011, 09:21 AM

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normal swing window= around RM20-24/sq feet, so just multiply the window size to ur own preference (2x4, etc)

finishing work, bricks/cement/etc = aroudn rm 700-900 i think

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post Aug 14 2011, 09:25 AM

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A rough estimate for glass and aluminium cascade windows.
Should cost you RM 24-26/sq feet. Thus taking RM25/sq feet as standard:
RM25 X 11.5' X 5' = RM1437.50. - Rough estimate only.. biggrin.gif
I might be wrong but this is what I experienced.
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post Aug 14 2011, 09:40 AM

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Sorry, gave wrong height just now. It's 3'8" height not 4'8". Thank you kuchingfight and phoenix69. So, judging by the pricing u alll gave, I should estimate around 1200 for windows. How about workmanship?I am planning to let them install right on top of the cement so hopefully can lessen hacking and cement works, possible? I have an alarm sensor there, so donno will kena its wiring o not.
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post Aug 14 2011, 10:45 AM

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Depend the current area have enough sitting for the aluminum, if not you may need to hack the grill out, or maybe add some brick/concrete to let the windows sit on.

Usually calculation is round up. 3.5 or 3.8 use 4', 4'8" use 5'
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post Aug 14 2011, 10:49 AM

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Few things that you need to consider.
1. Is the laundry area located on the ground floor (landed property) or in a condo (above ground floor)?
If yours is on the ground floor, they can easily install from the outside. Else they will have to take out the grill to be able to install the window if your place is not on ground floor.
2. Is the plastering around the grille opening perfectly square? Cos the window will be square and if the present opening is not, then there will be gaps at some of the edges.
3. Normally the windows frame will be installed with some portion embedded in the plastering. Avoid water seepage and also there will not be any gaps between the frame and plaster.

As for your concern about the alarm wiring. Mostly the alarm wiring are running on the inside and connected to the grille. You will be installing the window on the outside. So, the chances of damaging the wiring is very slim.
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post Aug 14 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 14 2011, 10:45 AM)
Depend the current area have enough sitting for the aluminum, if not you may need to hack the grill out, or maybe add some brick/concrete to let the windows sit on.

Usually calculation is round up. 3.5 or 3.8 use 4', 4'8" use 5'
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I'll take a picture of the extra cement area outside the grille and upload tml plus measurement.

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 14 2011, 10:49 AM)
Few things that you need to consider.
1. Is the laundry area located on the ground floor (landed property) or in a condo (above ground floor)?
Ground floor landed property.
If yours is on the ground floor, they can easily install from the outside. Else they will have to take out the grill to be able to install the window if your place is not on ground floor.
2. Is the plastering around the grille opening perfectly square? Cos the window will be square and if the present opening is not, then there will be gaps at some of the edges.

If you mean the edges whether comes up to a square, I believe yes. But if mean whether the cement area if perfectly 90 degrees to the grilles, I think no. It's slightly slanted. Better if I take a pic tomorrow.

3. Normally the windows frame will be installed with some portion embedded in the plastering. Avoid water seepage and also there will not be any gaps between the frame and plaster.

As for your concern about the alarm wiring. Mostly the alarm wiring are running on the inside and connected to the grille. You will be installing the window on the outside. So, the chances of damaging the wiring is very slim.

Which means as long as they don't remove grille or hack the inside, should be okay right?

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post Aug 15 2011, 12:31 AM

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Better ask the windows guy come over and check, they can advice better.
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post Aug 15 2011, 12:52 AM

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There is this shop 'kaca and aluminium' who gave me a quote at RM20 psft. His shop is in damansara uptown. Sorry i can't recall the name of the shop. It's in the same row as a lot of lighting one and maybank. Beside the shop is a thai restaurant.

Maybe u can check it out. I did ask him whether can come do measurement or not. He said 'price OK or not 1st? OK then only we come talk about measurement'. ha ha ha...
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post Aug 18 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(@Adele @ Aug 15 2011, 12:52 AM)
There is this shop 'kaca and aluminium' who gave me a quote at RM20 psft. His shop is in damansara uptown. Sorry i can't recall the name of the shop. It's in the same row as a lot of lighting one and maybank. Beside the shop is a thai restaurant.

Maybe u can check it out. I did ask him whether can come do measurement or not. He said 'price OK or not 1st? OK then only we come talk about measurement'. ha ha ha...
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Wah the guy so 'chuen' only talk about measurement after ok wit price. In the end did u get him to do?

Sorry all, only manage to go to my house yesterday but my camera no battery! So haven't take a pic of the area.
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post Aug 18 2011, 05:38 PM

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i did mine, 25 x 25 inch - rm 620.
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post Aug 18 2011, 07:55 PM

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Lowlowc..ya nowadays ppl do business all super rude one. Ask abit also cant.. haven't survey other shop yet but it seems his price so far is reasonable. I used his service before for frame work. if his price cheapest will let him do otherwise won't ...haha coz sure bad service
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post Aug 18 2011, 08:54 PM

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I also entire house windows from few windows supplier, they too tell me per sqft price ask me calculate myself. If accept only go measure and discuss detail. That is very standard practice. I don't think is rude.
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post Aug 18 2011, 09:34 PM

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Avoid Sliding Windows for outside facing windows. shakehead.gif
The sliding groove collect debris. - (repeating myself here) tongue.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(@Adele @ Aug 18 2011, 07:55 PM)
Lowlowc..ya nowadays ppl do business all super rude one. Ask abit also cant.. haven't survey other shop yet but it seems his price so far is reasonable. I used his service before for frame work. if his price cheapest will let him do otherwise won't ...haha coz sure bad service
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Adele, their bad service is in attitude or follow up? Attitude still can bear, but if very slow then I dont think can endure?


QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 18 2011, 08:54 PM)
I also entire house windows from few windows supplier, they too tell me per sqft price ask me calculate myself. If accept only go measure and discuss detail. That is very standard practice. I don't think is rude.
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I just notice, from what mentioned here it seemed like the window seller will provide installation? When I first ask this topic, I tot installing window only done by contractor.

QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Aug 18 2011, 09:34 PM)
Avoid Sliding Windows for outside facing windows. shakehead.gif
The sliding groove collect debris. - (repeating myself here)  tongue.gif
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Don't worry, won't repeat the mistake that happens to my old house at hometown. Every 2 days have to vacumn.
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post Aug 18 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 18 2011, 08:54 PM)
I also entire house windows from few windows supplier, they too tell me per sqft price ask me calculate myself. If accept only go measure and discuss detail. That is very standard practice. I don't think is rude.
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I only asked if price include installation and is it they will come n measure the exact size, the person replied 'u confirm the price OK 1st la only ask this, if price not OK ask is useless'

wanna ask more clearly cannot meh?

lowlowc, i haven't ask him to do windows yet so i don't know.


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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Aug 18 2011, 09:34 PM)
Avoid Sliding Windows for outside facing windows. shakehead.gif
The sliding groove collect debris. - (repeating myself here)  tongue.gif
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aren't all windows facing outside? what do u mean by outside facing windows?.. i dont understand...

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post Aug 18 2011, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(@Adele @ Aug 18 2011, 10:00 PM)
I only asked if price include installation and is it they will come n measure the exact size, the person replied 'u confirm the price OK 1st la only ask this, if price not OK ask is useless'

wanna ask more clearly cannot meh?

lowlowc, i haven't ask him to do windows yet so i don't know.


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aren't all windows facing outside? what do u mean by outside facing windows?.. i dont understand...
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Adele, I think he meant any windows that open to exterior of the house should be swing type, not sliding type. Cos sliding type has tracks and collect dust like crazy. Some house has stupid design like room windows opens to kitchen.

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post Aug 18 2011, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(@Adele @ Aug 18 2011, 10:00 PM)
I only asked if price include installation and is it they will come n measure the exact size, the person replied 'u confirm the price OK 1st la only ask this, if price not OK ask is useless'

wanna ask more clearly cannot meh?

They only do exact measurement when price confirm. Anyway few i ask round the measurement. If you have 5.5', is 6' so calculation is not hard. You need to provide the opening, if not they maybe extra charges. If your wall is already plaster they also highlight installation may not look nice.
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post Aug 18 2011, 11:22 PM

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lowlowc and phoenix69..many thanks for pointing that out. I almost wanted to install sliding windows. Now gotta change it. TX! save us all some trouble n money smile.gif

weikee, what does 'provide opening' and 'already plaster' mean..?
Sorry .. i dont un..
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post Aug 18 2011, 11:45 PM

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Provide opening = enough space for the windows. Or they may charge you removal of the grills or old windows.

Plaster = After brick work, you need to put cement to make it like normal wall, this is call plastering.

Usually window frame are install after brick work, because they need to mount the windows frame holder / bracket to the brick, then the wet work contractor will do plaster. This look nicer. If you have already plaster they may need to hack and put the bracket and plaster back. So this may not turn out to be nice and may charge you extra.
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post Aug 19 2011, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 18 2011, 11:45 PM)
Provide opening = enough space for the windows. Or they may charge you removal of the grills or old windows.

Plaster = After brick work, you need to put cement to make it like normal wall, this is call plastering.

Usually window frame are install after brick work, because they need to mount the windows frame holder / bracket to the brick, then the wet work contractor will do plaster. This look nicer.  If you have already plaster they may need to hack and put the bracket and plaster back. So this may not turn out to be nice  and may charge you extra.
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Oh no, I'm certainly going to get charged with the second one. Other than the one in Damansara Uptown, are there any recommended windows installer?

 

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