Wow.. this discussion is really nice. Had a good time reading from head till bottom. @papacatastrophe you can be a good philosophy teacher lol
Although I do not agree to everything that you guys said, but then who will?
There are really too much things waiting us to learn... what we are discussing here might not even make sense to ourselves in the future if we continue to learn more.. What I am trying to say is that... what's the point of standing so firm on our own standings... because after all, we are only human, what we know right now is so limited... no point being so serious or butthurt about anything...

Not sure if any of you can understand what I am trying to say because I am really bad at writing..