TS,

There are AGE DISCRIMINATION in Malaysia. So, unless you are looking for a job that NEED your Phd, why would ANYONE hire a 30 years old fresh grad with NO EXPERIENCE?? In fact, your CV / Resume will be thrown to trash can without a look because people will ASSUME that you want high salary.

THINK carefully...

Dreamer

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Added on August 15, 2011, 8:38 amseanwc101,

If NOT, why people do IT?? That is COMMON SENSE..

For FUN?? A person could use that TIME and MONEY to travel around the world or do something else...

And, please DO NOT give me BS about wanting to learn more. At this day and age, a person could self study almost everything. The ONLY DIFFERENCE is you get a piece of paper by going to a university.

Now, if a person is NOT CAPABLE of self study, that person has NO BUSINESS doing a Phd.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 15 2011, 08:38 AM

Hi,

1) We are talking about phd here.

2) I am Engineer with 20+ years of working experience. Most learning by engineering do not need instrument.

Dreamer

krizalid88,

IT/Datacom / Telecom...

Dreamer

blackangel,

Kiddo, unless you are FIRE (Financially Independent Retired Early), aka you do not need to work for a living, you are using 2 to 3 years of your PEAK earning years that never come back. Hence, a person needs to THINK CAREFULLY whether it is worth it.

<< I have no personal issues against you but I want to point out that what you say is irresponsible and may give negative impact to potential phd candidates.>>

What are your SELF INTEREST in this?? Now, who is the IRRESPONSIBLE person here??

I am telling people that there is SIGNIFICANT COST in getting a Phd and you may NEVER get the payback?? Meanwhile, you tell people that they should do their Phd for FUN??

Who is the IRRESPONSIBLE person here??


<<I guess you don't really know how much it costs to do a sophisticated research especially in Sciences like BIO/PHY/CHE or even nuclear engineering. >>

This is such a STUPID statement. Who say that a person MUST do those research while doing their Phd?? Who say that people cannot do those research in their jobs??

Let's me throw down a challenge for YOU. How much working and research experience that you REALLY have?? I had worked for 20+ years across 10+ years. Many of the people that I worked with have Phd plus 10 to 20 years of experience.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Apr 8 2013, 10:23 AM

blackangel,

<< In my case, if I were to do a phd, it will be my passion and that may not suit your judgement of cost.>>

That means you had not done it. And, NO first hand experience with people that had done it and the price that they pay for that.

<< Whether you like my opinions, I am okay. Btw I am 25 going 26 this year. I am open to all possibilities.>>
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That means you had not worked long enough to realize that you have LIMITED working life and earning power.

<< Life is not just about earning a good pay check or settling down with a family>>

Which means you NEVER face the problem of not having enough money to feed yourself and your family yet.

<<* If there was not this man Dr. Donald E. Knuth who suggested the best way to represent algorithm efficiency by using asymptotic analysis, many people would have had no idea how efficient their program algorithms can be.>>

Which is a bunch of BS... If a person is as SMART as Dr. Knuth, by all mean, get a Phd. Is a person that SMART?? If not, example like Dr. Knuth is IRRELEVANT to that person.

My judgment is IRRELEVANT. My POINT is VERY SIMPLE. Make sure a person know the time and cost associated with getting a Phd. Make sure that it is worth it,

In summary, you have VERY LITTLE experience and exposure on various people that CHOOSE to get their Phd and not getting their Phd. Plus, what are their outcomes 5 to 10 years down the rod.

Dreamer