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 When you have to choose between ..., ... further studies and a good job

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TobbyChan
post Aug 15 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 15 2011, 08:34 AM)
TS,

There are AGE DISCRIMINATION in Malaysia.  So, unless you are looking for a job that NEED your Phd, why would ANYONE hire a 30 years old fresh grad with NO EXPERIENCE??  In fact, your CV / Resume will be thrown to trash can without a look because people will ASSUME that you want high salary.

THINK carefully...

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I second this.

Unfortunately what I've observed in Malaysia, people with PHD tends to become an academician towards the end. Position for researcher not to say none, it is there, but very limited. If you are planning to be a lecturer or academician, I guess PHD is a way to go.

PHD is also my dream. I have been working for almost 2 years now in oil and gas industry and I tried hard to get a sponsorship but so far no luck. smile.gif
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post Aug 15 2011, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(seanwc101 @ Aug 15 2011, 12:19 PM)
The old thinking I'm talking about is they might think study until phd level will guarantee to get a better job and salary. This is not always the case.
I think you should start thinking of self-funded phd.  smile.gif
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PHD is not cheap biggrin.gif

For TS, towards the end I think it depends on what you want to do in future. Think carefully.

For me, PHD is my dream and something I really want to do for myself. And after that lecturing will be good eventho I am more to research area. But even with PHD it doesn't hold you to do research at the same time right? You can apply for research grant and try to do the research you want to do.

Just my two cents. smile.gif


TobbyChan
post Aug 15 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(seanwc101 @ Aug 15 2011, 01:58 PM)
That's what some people told me. But to apply the work experience in phd is another issue. If I chose to work 1st, I'll try to do part-time phd in the future. Can't do full-time because I might have commitment to pay car and house loans.
That's true. Come to think of it, one of the factors I can't decide to continue phd or work 1st is because I'm not really sure what I wanna do in the future. Hmm, I supposed to have a good planning already since I'm already 27 this year  sweat.gif 

What you mean by "even with PHD it doesn't hold you to do research at the same time"?
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Yeah, I know what you meant, now I already have commitments, cars etc. But I think as long as no babies involves then it will still be ok tongue.gif

I mean even if you have your PHD, even you lecturing, you still can do research. It is not all about lecturing only. There is a lot of grant out there for you to apply and do research based on your interest. Means you are lecturing and do research at the same time. And you have your students to support you in your research? smile.gif


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post Aug 15 2011, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(seanwc101 @ Aug 15 2011, 02:29 PM)
Yes, lecturer job is not just lecturing but also involve in research, admin work, etc. especially in IPTA. For IPTS, lecturing will be the top priority though. But it seems like not easy to get hired in IPTA for non bumi. IPTS will be the best bet but to tell you the truth, I don't really into teaching as I feel I'm not good in giving a "speech" in front of audience (students).  smile.gif  Academic research is fine to me though.
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yeah, so I guess you just need to focus on your priority now? think carefully weather you want to work or just continue PHD. Both comes with pros and cons smile.gif

Good Luck TS

 

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