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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, 25 August 2011 | 0240 | UDI v. ARS

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post Aug 22 2011, 07:48 PM

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when some of you lot say
give wenger some time, or willing to wait

whats your definition on this?
1 day wait or wait until the transfer window close

cause it seems like, EG:
Person A say, i will wait 20th August
Person A say, where is the transfers? fucuk wenger 21st August

transfer window ends at 31st August,
please wait it out okay?
otherwise...sighh, fine go on b****ing about it


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post Aug 22 2011, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 22 2011, 07:42 PM)
Talk cock again..Everytime says we got money, we got money, we got money....Now kaka is available, why AW never intend to buy him?
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u sound like casa. the defeat is last 2 days. y u so upset? org lain rilek je.
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post Aug 22 2011, 07:57 PM

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Kaka is not young and to buy him would cost massive $$$$. A loan deal is more appropriate.
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Aug 22 2011, 07:51 PM)
u sound like casa. the defeat is last 2 days. y u so upset? org lain rilek je.
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Im upset because we are turning into 2nd class premier league team already (believe it or not). This might be some reasons that we cant see (or maybe this is the decision from arsenal board). We used to pay big money on experience players (Pires, ljungberg, petit, reyes, or even gallas...etc). Look at our current transfer policy, beside laici, who else is older than 21 years old.
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:06 PM

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9 more days to go until window shut. i believe AW r burning the night oil to bring more players in.
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:06 PM

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Also, we have lost 4 captains for the last 7 years

1.) Vieira
2.) Henry
3.) Gallas
4.) Fabregas

Since 2004, we have changed 4 captains after Tony Adams retired. I don't know why we cant keep our captains at all...maybe they like $$ more than football
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 22 2011, 08:06 PM)
Also, we have lost 4 captains for the last 7 years

1.) Vieira
2.) Henry
3.) Gallas
4.) Fabregas

Since 2004, we have changed 4 captains after Tony Adams retired. I don't know why we cant keep our captains at all...maybe they like $$ more than football
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we need a loyal player who ready to give everything to bring the club forward and willing to fight for his team mates.
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 22 2011, 07:42 PM)
Talk cock again..Everytime says we got money, we got money, we got money....Now kaka is available, why AW never intend to buy him?
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Dengan risiko berbunyi seakan-akan rekod yang dah pecah, saya percaya bahawa struktur gaji di kelab kamilah yang menghindari aktiviti tingkap pemindahan musim ini.

Memang tidak munasabah jika wang yang diperolehi daripada penjualan Cesc, Clichy dll hilang begitu sahaja. Arsenal merupakan sebuah syarikat yang diaudit oleh auditor parti ketiga. Oleh itu, saya yakin tiada penyelewengan telah berlaku.

Untuk menjawab soalan saudara pula, saya rasa harga jualan Kaka di pasaran sepatutnya berada dalam lingkungan GBP25-35 juta dan besar kemungkinan, harga ini boleh di bawa berunding lagi jika Real benar2 desperate untuk mengusir Kaka keluar dari Madrid. Namun begitu, dengar khabar, gaji mingguan Kaka adalah dalam lingkungan 150k-200k dan ini menjadi masalah untuk AW.

Saya juga tidak konfiden AW akan meminjam Kaka kerana saya pasti Real akan memperuntukkan klausa 100% gaji beliau dibiayai oleh Arsenal.

Minta maaf ya, jika saudara aladdin berpendapat bahawa saya bercakap ayam jantan (talk cock).

QUOTE(unpredictable soul @ Aug 22 2011, 07:47 PM)
pls wenger, at least sign one quality central defender, time is running out now, either gary cahill or scott danns
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Seperti hujah2 saya di atas, saya rasa AW memang ingin membeli pemain yang berkualiti. Tetapi, cuba saudara fikirkan... Scott Dann merupakan belakang tengah (centreback) yang beraksi untuk pasukan yang kecundang ke divisyen bawah musim lalu. Gary Cahill pula hanya mula beraksi dengan cemerlang musim lepas, selepas beliau dijual oleh Aston Villa. Mungkinkah AW berpendapat bahawa pemain2 ini tidak merupakan pemain kualiti dunia (world class player) yang dapat meningkatkan lagi prestasi Arsenal secara keseluruhan. Mungkin AW rasa bahawa pemain2 seperti Koscielny lebih kurang sama sahaja kualitinya, dan juga pemain muda seperti Miguel berpotensi untuk mencapai tahap yang sama ataupun lebih hebat daripada Scott Dann.

Namun begitu, saya musykil kenapa AW tidak membeli sahaja Per Matersacker yang pada pendapat saya amat berkaliber.

(I'm laughing my a$$ off typing in BM. Even though I'm half Malay, my BM sucks bad!)
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:15 PM

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bukankah Per Mertersacker masih mahu tinggal di kelabnya? kita disini tidak nampak dan tidak tahu apa yang terjadi dibelakang tabir. hanya membaca di dada-dada tabloid dan laman sesawang tentang itu dan ini. tidak semua perkara itu betul dan tidak semuanya salah. itu hanya spekulasi sementara kita juga tidak tahu akan struktur didalam kelab kita. mungkin AW sudah bekerja separuh mati untuk mendapatkan pemain yang terbaik untuk kelab, tetapi sekadar hanya untuk membeli semata-mata untuk mengikut kata peminat dan akhbar, itu bukanlah polisi AW.
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:19 PM

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your BM hebat la, thumbup.gif
oh damn i miss high school
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:21 PM

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Org tau kita ada duit.. Takkan org nak jual murah? Pemain tau kita ada duit, takkan nak mintak gaji murah?

Lebih penting kita naikkan gaji rvp, arshavin, walcott, jack, vermy, kosc, song dan lain2. Kalau pemain baru masuk tp gaji 2x lebey dr rvp, tak ke dia akan rasa pekehal lak neh?

Lu pk la sendiri....
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:30 PM

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Talk cock again..Everytime says we got money, we got money, we got money....Now kaka is available, why AW never intend to buy him?


His resell value's very low, and very bertentangan with AW's principle. And beside I think there's a rumor we'll get him for a season on loan, cuz he's not really in Jose's plan this season. Such a bad thing for a Ballon d'Or winner.

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Lebih penting kita naikkan gaji rvp, arshavin, walcott, jack, vermy, kosc, song dan lain2. Kalau pemain baru masuk tp gaji 2x lebey dr rvp, tak ke dia akan rasa pekehal lak neh?


Naik gaji susah jual maa, (look at Almunia).

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we need a loyal player who ready to give everything to bring the club forward and willing to fight for his team mates.


We gave them captaincy to tie them to the club (as in someone's tapping our best player ye know).

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9 more days to go until window shut. i believe AW r burning the night oil to bring more players in.


Remember when we get Arshavin ; a few hours before deadline finished. (There's also a rumor that it's already past the deadline, but that can be arranged, right tongue.gif).
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QUOTE(Quick` @ Aug 22 2011, 08:19 PM)
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:32 PM

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I hope we will lose a few more matches so that the so called "fans" will switch to other clubs. I think the club will eventually play better without them.

This post has been edited by ProbMan: Aug 22 2011, 08:33 PM
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:34 PM

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I hope we will lose a few more matches more so that the so called "fans" will switch to other clubs.


Kenot, then who'll buy t-shirt ?
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QUOTE(ProbMan @ Aug 22 2011, 08:32 PM)
I hope we will lose a few more matches so that the so called "fans" will switch to other clubs. I think the club will eventually play better without them.
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:39 PM

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pasukan menentang Udinese:

---------------scezcny----------------
--------?-vermaelen-?-sagna--------
walcott - song - ramsey - gervinho
--------------arshavin----------------
-----------------rvp-------------------

up front got no prob, but the defence is so-so. we need a goal 1st then play counter attack wilth pacey theo n gervy. 2nd half add ryo for total counter attack!
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post Aug 22 2011, 08:40 PM

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Wilshere should be back for the next game against Udinese

Nasri still 50/50 situation now

Djourou also should be ok to partner Vermaelan

Hopefully we will see a better performance now.

Now i am so much more relax to see Arsenal defending compare to attacking.

If and only if Fabregas still play for Arsenal, i wonder eh what would we end up this season.
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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Aug 22 2011, 06:26 PM)
Lihat contoh  SAF, dia cakap "NO" dengan PSG yang cuba membeli Berbatov walaupun penyokong-penyokong MUFC tahu bahawa Berbatov adalah "tidak berguna", malas dll.

Kita tidak boleh jadi Feeder club lagi!
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Namun, Man Utd tidak teragak-agak menjual Beckham, Keane ataupun Ronaldo. Kita jual pemain pun, Arsenal tetap kuat.

Bukan masalah menjadi feeder club, tapi kepentingan Arsenal mesti didahulukan. The club is bigger than the man.

QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 22 2011, 07:42 PM)
Talk cock again..Everytime says we got money, we got money, we got money....Now kaka is available, why AW never intend to buy him?
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Who says Kaka is available? Some gossip column based on unsubstantiated claims and conjecture?

QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 22 2011, 08:01 PM)
Im upset because we are turning into 2nd class premier league team already (believe it or not). This might be some reasons that we cant see (or maybe this is the decision from arsenal board). We used to pay big money on experience players (Pires, ljungberg, petit, reyes, or even gallas...etc). Look at our current transfer policy, beside laici, who else is older than 21 years old.
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Ljungberg was plucked out of the Swedish leagues and unproven in any top league, Reyes was a big money signing with potential (think Alex Chamberlain) and Gallas was part of the Cashley deal.

Apart from Pires and Petit, a lot of these buys weren't for 'experience', nor were they 'big money'. Gervinho is experienced as well, winning Ligue 1 (something Pires never even achieved, and Manu did only once). So, in your books, Gervinho would be quite close to Pires' or Petit's signing.

QUOTE(Zan81 @ Aug 22 2011, 08:10 PM)
Dengan risiko berbunyi seakan-akan rekod yang dah pecah, saya percaya bahawa struktur gaji di kelab kamilah yang menghindari aktiviti tingkap pemindahan musim ini.


Setuju. Walaupun khabar anging tentang gaji Kaka hanya war-war semata-mata, anggaran tersebut besar kemungkinan tidak terlalu jauh dari kebenaran. Agak susah dipercayai sekiranya Kaka yang dibeli dengan harga yang amat tinggi seperti itu tidak mendapat gaji yang tinggi berserta sebahagian daripada bayaran pemindahannya.

QUOTE(Zan81 @ Aug 22 2011, 08:10 PM)

Namun begitu, saya musykil kenapa AW tidak membeli sahaja Per Matersacker yang pada pendapat saya amat berkaliber.

(I'm laughing my a$$ off typing in BM. Even though I'm half Malay, my BM sucks bad!)
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Dalam hal ini, Arsene sudah menjelaskan bahawa dia lebih mementingkan pengalaman Premier League kerana dia percaya bahawa gaya permainan di Premier League amat berbeza dengan liga-liga lain. Itu antara sebab kenapa kebanyakan khabar angin yang mengaitkan kita dengan Centreback melibatkan pemain-pemain yang kini bermain di England (Samba, Cahill, Jagielka dll.)

Selain itu, Arsene ternyata lebih gemar dengan defender yang berkemampuan memulakan serangan melalui passing mereka dan pada pendapat saya, Mertesacker kurang ampuh dari segi itu.
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I think we'lll not be calm until next Wednesday! Hngghh! With Nasri still 50/50, Udinese on Wednesday, crock list full of the hopeful players and how many players would come in and left at the end of the day. It's like a snowball of anxiety, it keeps getting bigger and bigger. I wonder how Arsene Wenger could even sleep tight during this time around?

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