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prophetjul
post Aug 2 2012, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 2 2012, 02:47 PM)
Do u know  AXreit got unrented properties ( one building complex  )  for more than a year when trading at  rm one ?

BT time  it was rented out , it was towards  rm 2.

Which one u prefer , rm 2.9 for stable incomes ?
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Of course one would have the pie and eat it.......

i am just alluding to the concept of REITs investment.

Added on August 2, 2012, 3:16 pm
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 2 2012, 03:08 PM)
Frankly I read one report that UK props are giving above 8% returns ( read  through my  tablet , such unable to attach the report )

Many investors or big funds are pouring money into these areas.

Our EPF, Thaji or Sime or PNB are active there also.
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If thats the case, those are goos returns. BUT now that UK is in 3 qtrs of negative growth(recesssion),
are these returns sustainable?
Not to mention that the sterling may depreciate if wnother qtr of negatove growth occurs alto that
is highly unlikely with the Olympics happening.

i like SGD because the divs distributed is net of tax....ie no tax.
What i see is what i get! biggrin.gif

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post Aug 2 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 2 2012, 03:19 PM)
No harm to follow the abcde , one step at a time.

In fact , I talk ( personally ) to Wong Sifu since he diversifies  to overseas reits.

Sori for sounding out too opening , may try PM next time notworthy.gif
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No probem, matey.

We are all here to learn thumbup.gif

Wheres Wong sifu? biggrin.gif

i am not investing any in Eurozone yet, that includes UK.......
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post Aug 2 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 2 2012, 03:26 PM)
UK is not part of Eurozone  hmm.gif

Do not which part, maybe one part and not the other part.

They have their own money printing without approvals from German.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurozone
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They are not part of the Euro.....BUT when Europe sneezes....UK gets blown as well nod.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 08:46 PM

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Of Risk Management

a) i invest overseas to diversify out of Msia and ringgit. i see devaluing ringgit in future. i believe SGD is a very stable currency

b) i invest in SG becos i feel regulators are less corrupted. More transparency

c) i invest in S-Reits because thers no tax on the divs and better returns. How many Msia Reits delivers at least 7%? After tax?
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post Aug 3 2012, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 09:48 PM)
Me - after SGX, i'm still waiting for EquitiesTracker on AU / ASX data + still searching for some useful historical track records. At this rate, dunno when i'll be prepared enough to even sniff at A-REITs  cry.gif
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Its perplexing at this e-age we cant easily find data for any xchange! blink.gif

But i think the returns on AReits may not be so nice compared with SG

Added on August 3, 2012, 7:36 am
QUOTE(asambuffett @ Aug 2 2012, 10:15 PM)
few years back we can get more than 7%..now with the price increased - cannot anymore  wink.gif ...
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Few years ago i am getting 14% yield for my Panamy! biggrin.gif

But as i have mentioned i am in SReits because some of the yeilds are still around 8%, NET....unlike MReits, thers
still 10% tax.....our gomen luvs their taxes! mad.gif

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post Aug 3 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 3 2012, 12:24 PM)
Just a clarification - S-REIT tax free for NON-RESIDENT only. Similar with A-REIT  drool.gif
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wongsifu

i think distributions from SReits re tax exempted for INDIVIDuals.

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REIT distributions out of rental income: individuals tax free, foreign corporates corporates taxed at 10% WHT and taxed local corporatescorporates20%


http://www.gf.com.au/Pieter_de_Ridder_Asia.pdf
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post Aug 3 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 3 2012, 01:13 PM)
I am interested in investing in S-REITS.. can u share with me how to do it?
U are right..should diversify.
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get a stock broker who does cross border trading.

As for SREits info....here

http://sreit.reitdata.com/

http://sreitinvestor.blogspot.com/2009/11/...dpu-and_13.html
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post Aug 7 2012, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(kbandito @ Aug 7 2012, 09:44 AM)
IGB REIT Prospectus:
http://www.sc.com.my/main.asp?pageid=1194&...=&linkid=&type=
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Looks like IPOs has no public subscription interest in mind

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Public offer of 34,000,000 Offer Units, representing 1.0% of the total Units to be
issued upon Listing, for application by the Malaysian Public via balloting; and

The Institutional Offering of 469,000,000 Offer Units by the Offeror, representing
approximately 13.8% of the total Units to be issued upon Listing subject to the Clawback
and Reallocation, is available for application by Malaysian and foreign institutional
investors and selected investors.
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post Aug 10 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 10 2012, 10:39 AM)
I think it;s still worth it....believe me...
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believe you?

Your only postings seems tobe pumping IGB Reits............. hmm.gif
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post Aug 10 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 10 2012, 11:18 AM)
I was also just wondering what additional data/info katesamsung has, saying "it's still worth it to buy now", price "now" was at RM9.05

Was it Panamy or Gark (sorry ar boss - i'm getting old & foggy), who analyzed and posted RM9 as the break even point.
At RM9.05, not only no +ve spread but...
Can share ar katesamsung - on your personal reasoning/logic?  notworthy.gif
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Its Rm9.18 now........guess there are lotsa SUCKers nowadays
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post Aug 10 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 10 2012, 02:59 PM)
Since u say like this...then u find out urself...y i say so....

Invest or not...up to u...I didnt force u.....I just share info what i have study......
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since you say "believe me", why dont you tell us in by qualifying and quantifying

why you say so? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 14 2012, 01:44 PM)
60% PNB funds and longer term FD (5 years)
25% Short term FD (1 month to 1 year)
2.5% REIT + stocks
2.5% Bond
5% Cash
5% Downpayment + repayment for 2 properties

I have very low risk appetite but am trying to diversify into stocks/REIT but I will keep them maximum 5% now, and will increase to 15% once there is a huge discount in the market.

Any comment?

a portfolio for retiring......... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2012, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 14 2012, 02:54 PM)
I know.. too conservative right? Can you share your portfolio?  I have very low risk appetite. Looking at stocks crashing make my heart very weak... that's why don't dare to buy shares at this time. KLCI looks a bit too overvalued.

I read that you invest in Singapore REIT, better than Malaysia?

Hi S2S

Instead of looking at MY portfolio maybe you should answer these questions

a) Age
b) Retiremnet
c) Targets between now and retiremnet
d) Risk appetite
e) Present evaluation of the mkt

Its not wrong to have a low risk appetite. Only means you may win/lose less!
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post Aug 14 2012, 03:21 PM

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In 2009 LippoMalls REIt went from 0.70 to 0.18.............

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=D5IU.SI&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=
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post Aug 14 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 14 2012, 03:30 PM)
that's 75% drop ONLY mar hehehe not 90% like what FunnyBone poked tongue.gif
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'Paper' Loss oni mar............. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 14 2012, 03:57 PM)
Don't scare me too la. I just started to invest in REIT.

Added on August 14, 2012, 3:58 pm

a. Thirties
b. By 40 ?
c. 2 million
d. very low
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Next between 30s to 40....since you have low risk App,
you must have an egg of very near 2mil by now.....otherwise

a) Cant retire by 40
b) Work harder now to save more- Double shift
c) Take hi risk...
d) Defer retirement


In a NUT shelll

Added on August 14, 2012, 4:09 pm
QUOTE(aronteh @ Aug 14 2012, 03:59 PM)
That is enough to many pee in their pant tongue.gif Until today have not recover leh. Still at 0.42 brows.gif
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Yes, its still underwater....thats the stock market.
Hoepfully with a REIT, you still get those dividends to alleviate the pain...

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post Aug 14 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 14 2012, 04:13 PM)
OK, I can't retire by 40. sigh.....
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40 is too young to retire....... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ShiftVQV6 @ Aug 14 2012, 04:16 PM)
all sifu here...

how big is the fund size to built a passive income of rm1000 per month?
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At 6% yield, RM200K ONLY.........

Added on August 14, 2012, 4:23 pm
QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 14 2012, 04:17 PM)


OK it is too young to retire.

Do you put lot of money into REITS?
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Not much


Some of my retirement funds.....only 3% of my investment port so far...

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post Aug 15 2012, 08:19 AM

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Looks like every Ali Ahmad and Ismail wants in on REITs! smile.gif
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post Aug 15 2012, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Aug 15 2012, 08:29 AM)
Now only I know the Malaysian equivalent for 'Tom, d*** & Harry'  brows.gif
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Thats the IDEA! thumbup.gif

Added on August 15, 2012, 8:37 amWhy's d*** D***?

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