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post Dec 21 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(ToshibaM100 @ Dec 21 2012, 01:39 PM)
Can this be use as to improve fuel consumption? If can, how much can save? better than vs?
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please read the thread. you can read, can you?
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post Dec 23 2012, 11:54 PM

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Someone researched this product already

http://www.ehow.com/info_12229435_sprint-booster-work.html
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post Dec 24 2012, 08:34 AM

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I feel although Throttle controllers offer no power gain, however enhancing the throttle to achieve greater respond will improve lap times.

Imagine the time you need to depress 2/3 of the pedal & wait for your car to respond whereas with a throttle controller you needed only a fraction of the time to do that.


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QUOTE(drexchan @ Nov 4 2011, 10:55 PM)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphoto...774676221_n.jpg 
Why driving harder is not the same as what you can gain from using ETC in Sport mode? It's all about 'throttling rate' - the slope of the throttle graph (above).

The ECU reads how aggressive the pedal is depressed and interpret this as 'throttling rate', or pedal deflection rate. Higher throttling rate triggers aggressive ignition timing advance, thus improving the power output of the engine in response to the footwork.

The sensation of the relationship between footwork and engine behavior, is called throttle response. Good throttle response is described as getting satisfactory engine response while being light footed.

Being heavy footed without modifying the throttle graph may achieve the same throttling rate. However, this doesn't make the throttle more responsive, you are just driving it harder.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphoto...368542449_n.jpg 
Why "throttle off-set adjustment a.k.a. PDT" (famous among campro users) is different from a proper ETC (electronic throttle controller)?

What's "throttle offset adjustment"? Forcing the ECU to learn a lower V as 0% pedal depression. Result is that, at 0% actual depression, ECU is reading it as 'being depressed at a certain %". At any deeper depression, the ECU reads higher.

1) Effect is minimal for a problem-free adjustment
2) Can only reduce throttle lag, not the signal profile.
2) Greater effect comes with draw-backs.
3) No on-the-fly adjustment

This is a factory default 'trick' for the service engineer to solve unstable idling, not a S.O.P. to improve the throttle response.

JUST LIKE ADJUSTING THE CABLE FREE PLAY.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphoto...072129914_n.jpg 
The mechanical-equivalent of electronic throttle controller (ETC) is an undersized throttle pulley, NOT by adjusting the throttle cable free play.
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post Oct 6 2019, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(drexchan @ Nov 4 2011, 10:55 PM)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphoto...774676221_n.jpg 
Why driving harder is not the same as what you can gain from using ETC in Sport mode? It's all about 'throttling rate' - the slope of the throttle graph (above).

The ECU reads how aggressive the pedal is depressed and interpret this as 'throttling rate', or pedal deflection rate. Higher throttling rate triggers aggressive ignition timing advance, thus improving the power output of the engine in response to the footwork.

The sensation of the relationship between footwork and engine behavior, is called throttle response. Good throttle response is described as getting satisfactory engine response while being light footed.

Being heavy footed without modifying the throttle graph may achieve the same throttling rate. However, this doesn't make the throttle more responsive, you are just driving it harder.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphoto...368542449_n.jpg 
Why "throttle off-set adjustment a.k.a. PDT" (famous among campro users) is different from a proper ETC (electronic throttle controller)?

What's "throttle offset adjustment"? Forcing the ECU to learn a lower V as 0% pedal depression. Result is that, at 0% actual depression, ECU is reading it as 'being depressed at a certain %". At any deeper depression, the ECU reads higher.

1) Effect is minimal for a problem-free adjustment
2) Can only reduce throttle lag, not the signal profile.
2) Greater effect comes with draw-backs.
3) No on-the-fly adjustment

This is a factory default 'trick' for the service engineer to solve unstable idling, not a S.O.P. to improve the throttle response.

JUST LIKE ADJUSTING THE CABLE FREE PLAY.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphoto...072129914_n.jpg 
The mechanical-equivalent of electronic throttle controller (ETC) is an undersized throttle pulley, NOT by adjusting the throttle cable free play.
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Nice explanation. But how to get know my car whether can support or not? Any trick to figure out? My car is Myvi Icon 1.5 se year 2016
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post Oct 6 2019, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 24 2012, 08:34 AM)
I feel although Throttle controllers offer no power gain, however enhancing the throttle to achieve greater respond will improve lap times.

Imagine the time you need to depress 2/3 of the pedal & wait for your car to respond whereas with a throttle controller you needed only a fraction of the time to do that.
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it will be the same if you floor the throttle. the only difference is how much you press vs the actual when you set from eco to racing, it is the sensitivity that plays.

actually with this gadget, you can drive normally, but the car will feel very responsive (Racing mode) or very lag (Eco mode), no need to change your driving style. but if you change your throttle input style, it will be the same.
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