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TheNameX
post Aug 12 2011, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 12 2011, 11:48 AM)
I fail to see the difference of priority and rotation that u guys seem to keep talking about.

If a spell/skill has high priority, of course i'm gonna spam it and make sure it's on CD the entire time. So to me it's the same thing. Not sure what u all talking about.
Just because u have more buttons to spam now doesn't make it less of a spamming frenzy.
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What so hard to understand woh ?? I better elaborate with example before you tell me understand your england and GTFO. tongue.gif

Rotation -> If doing A followed by B and C will give you maximum DPS output, then you die die by all means also must do A followed by B and C. In other lay man term, you follow the protocol from A to Z.

Priority means you prioritize a certain skill/skills, by making your own call based on your current situation. An example is DK rune system,

Let's take Blood DK, in a raid tanking a boss. All 6 runes are on cd, one of the frost and unholy runes is about to ready at the same time, and the boss is about to hit you hard with his predictable skill and unfortunately, the debuff (frost fever and -10% attack dmg) on the boss is also gone and my damn Outbreak is on cd still. So, would I spent the almost ready frost and unholy for a Death Strike to shield myself for the predictable attack, or should I spent them to reapply the debuff on the boss (dont forget there's always this GCD around) ?? It's your call really and here's where the decision need to be made and thus sum up, welcome to the Cata's priority system.

Maybe for DPS class such situation aint so obvious, I dont know since I failed horribly at DPS (trash tanking me instead when I play DPS, comment from guildies sweat.gif ) and I know Blizz pretty much failed as there are a couple of class still maintain or has become as few buttons class haha..



Lucifer96
post Aug 12 2011, 05:32 PM

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Rotation's fixed. For warriors, there's an optimal opener, the rest's on priority based.
Priority's based on your own judgement. Like what you've mentioned. Better dps skills normally equates higher priority, but that doesn't include something retarded than say, sneaking in a cs in between last 3 hits of boss... it's still up to your own gauging in the end.
intothefantasy
post Aug 12 2011, 08:52 PM

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yea basically like affliction warlocks..we have an optimal opener

shadowbolt > haunt > bane of doom > corruption > unstable affliction

this would be a rotation if u wanna call it but then is an opener only..after unstable affliction cast..is all up to priority...which is u must see which dot is going to finish and refresh them asap but then u might find a situation where haunt is going to expire together with unstable affliction...so i must know my priority of the spell 1st..which to cast between haunt and unstable affliction...so i basically would go for haunt then only unstable affliction...


another example would be when the target is 25% health or below..we need to execute drain soul where will give us the best dps...but then we still need to refresh our dots by following priority where sometimes nightfaill procs...which give us the ability to cast a shadow bolt without casting time..means instant cast..but then shadow bolt is not that important in our priority list...so we can ignore it 1st and refresh other dots such as haunt and bane of doom..but then drain soul has higher priority then shadow bolt which mean we can just ignore the night fall proc and continue drain soul after refreshing our haunt and bane of doom.

this is priority means if i am not mistaken biggrin.gif

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Lucifer96
post Aug 13 2011, 09:56 AM

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Best dps spec for warlock atm is demo. Might wanna use that instead brah.

Was topping on Ragnaros 10 with 21~22k dps for most tries.
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post Aug 13 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Aug 13 2011, 09:56 AM)
Best dps spec for warlock atm is demo. Might wanna use that instead brah.

Was topping on Ragnaros 10 with 21~22k dps for most tries.
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imho for rag demo is the best but then i still prefer using afflic for certain fights in fl and i do use demo for certain fights as well...but then my example above is to explain abt priority example and i hope this wont end up a thread regarding warlock best spec etc
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post Aug 13 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Aug 13 2011, 09:56 AM)
Best dps spec for warlock atm is demo. Might wanna use that instead brah.

Was topping on Ragnaros 10 with 21~22k dps for most tries.
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Huh ?? I thought aff lock is the best spec now ?? They are among the top3 DPS spec now according to raidbot.com
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post Aug 13 2011, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Aug 13 2011, 11:54 AM)
Huh ?? I thought aff lock is the best spec now ?? They are among the top3 DPS spec now according to raidbot.com
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Fight dependent. Simcraft Results
Fights like say, Baleroc, it would top without a problem at all. Heavy movement fight like perhaps lord rhyo or even shannox, it sorta suck balls.

It lacks severely for on demand burst tho. Which is something I'm not quite comfortable with. I spent 2 weeks with it, I had my fun, but I think in some sense, affliction and even destro bring more to the table.

As for rag, I'm actually quite apprehensive about how good demo is on that fight. I mean I use to think it's gonna be useful on seed phase for AE, but when I look at the damage meter, it's not actually as much as I thought it'll be. Without felguard, son of flame can't be taken down fast enough neither, which kinda bugs me.

All in all, but to personal preferences on it.
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post Aug 13 2011, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 12 2011, 11:48 AM)
I fail to see the difference of priority and rotation that u guys seem to keep talking about.

If a spell/skill has high priority, of course i'm gonna spam it and make sure it's on CD the entire time. So to me it's the same thing. Not sure what u all talking about.
Just because u have more buttons to spam now doesn't make it less of a spamming frenzy.
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World of Warcraft used to revolve around skill rotation for optimize/maximize DPS, this recently has turned untrue thanks to Cataclysm introduction to mastery. Mastery turn the skill spamming into more priority oriented rather than being dull rotation.

Vanilla WoW

A > B > C > D > burn rage > rinse and repeat

Cataclysm

A > D > B > burn rage > proc > C > random skill mash

This is to turn gaming to be more fun and challenging, thats all about skill.

for Status priority, especially for melee plate wearer in PVE environment. trying to reach 8% Hit is of utmost importance, next is to reach effective Expertise of 26. This is true to all end-game raid condition. Since the introduction of Mastery, stacking up Mastery rating is prioritize over other status. reforge needless stats such as excess Hit and Expertise into Mastery. Other important stats such as Crit Rating, Attack power (note that 1 STR award plate wearer 2 AP).

This post has been edited by Yue: Aug 13 2011, 12:58 PM
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post Aug 15 2011, 11:00 AM

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For warrior make sure
Get 8% Hit, 26 Expertise. After that Strength > Crit > Hit > Mastery > Haste

rotation
Colossus smash, bloodthirst, raging blow, cleave.. slam only if bloodsurge

and before attack make sure buff with Battle shout, death wish or recklessness for another extra damage and crit

 

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