Hi, just got back to WoW.... heard there is a good website for builds, rotation and stat priority etc...
www.noxxic.com... looks pretty solid too but just wondering if anyone has been using it and if it's safe.

elitist jerk or mmo champion

elitist jerk is kinda crap...
go to warrior dps thread and they never mentioned anything about stats priority/rotation. It's basically just an ongoing discussion and i'm not gonna read all 30 pages.

Also, from which website can i view dungeon/raid's loot?

This post has been edited by King83: Aug 10 2011, 11:10 AM

Your ignorance doesnt mean EJ is a crap website. I can get what you asked by just visiting the warrior forum within 1 minute, even I never visit the warrior subforum before, open your eyes BIGGER.

And, obviously you do not read ALOT, if you do, you wont be asking funny question like what's warrior's rotation. The game mechanism has changed from rotation to priority play when Cata released so that 3 button class will not exist, or at least that's what the dev is trying to do.

Wowhead.com has all loot info you need.

First, brush up your english before replying.
I didn't say EJ is totally crap like what u're implying. They still have good info on protection wars, just not for dps.
Hence i said "kinda", which means pretty, not entirely.

2nd, it's easy to say you found it in 1 minute without providing the source eh? Very convenient of you to not provide source and still claim it is there.

3rd, read the f***en title of the thread, if you cannot answer a simple question with yes or no, GTFO. You have no business to be here.

take your elitist attitude elsewhere because really,
after reading your reply a second time, it is evident you know nothing about anything.

I asked about if noxxic is safe for viewing, u came in and tell me to read EJ.

I asked for warrior stats priority, again u came in and give irrelevant answers about cata not being rotation specific.

If you don't know something, then just shut up and let someone else answer.
It's ok to not say something if you don't know it.

and Wowhead does have every loot in the game, but it doesn't sort it by instance/raids which you would have gotten from my question earlier if you understood plain english.

This post has been edited by King83: Aug 10 2011, 01:35 PM

http://www.maxdps.com/ for gear checking
u looking for pve/pvp build?

pve mostly, thanks.

i though it still can,
says firelands raids drops
http://www.wowhead.com/zone=5723

ZA dungeon drops list
http://www.wowhead.com/zone=3805

or single bosses drops, Alysrazor as example
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=52530

you can also sort/filter it for 2handed sword or helm gear.
even heroic or non heroic drops

This post has been edited by Imbecile: Aug 10 2011, 02:09 PM

in WoW also you can view loots.
press Alt + J or Shift + J for ingame Atlas Loot.

atlas loot is the add on right?

blizz copycat the addon and implement it as ingame atlas loot lol

Who need this when we got addon and dev? lol?

Oh my, such a hot temper person you are. If my words offended you, I apologize first. I doesnt spoon feed you doesnt mean I'm an elitist, get things right pal. However, if you insist,

http://elitistjerks.com/f81/t110350-catacl...before_posting/

I can see clearly there's the stat priority you need, and the "rotation" that you are seeking under each spec. The thread itself is pinned on the warrior forum.

Again, I dont quite understand what do you mean you cant get what loot based on instance when I can do this,

An example of all loots you can get from BWD

http://www.wowhead.com/zone=5094

It even tell you which loots is from which instance boss.

Reread your own opening post again,



You asked for website for rotation and stat priority and you deny it, or after few months play I'm still too nub to even understand the term rotation and stat priority (if yes, bash me please ) ?? I know not any dedicated warrior forum but EJ still serve the WoW community well and still the best reference site on numbers crunching, at least that's to me. And I admit I did not answer to your question to build website, you can try askmrrobot.com, the calculation is based on EJ stat weighting, or you can customize one to your own preference. Build websites are pretty safe as WoW armory is open to public, as long as you are not required to sign in with your Bnet account (which is not necessary at all for maxing out the numbers)

my dps dk is two button only. frost strike obliterate frost strike obliterate frost strike obliterate frost strike obliterate frost strike obliterate only stop to refresh diseases or howling blast when that free hb thing procs. and once in a while click trinkets or cooldowns.

mindless. the only fun i have in the game is jumping on that fat worm's head to chain it to the spike on the floor.

www.manaflask.com class guides by ensidia..

EJ is still the best tho if you want to know in-depth about your class + running sims on your gears. If you have intention to raid in semi or hardcore guilds, understanding your class is much more important for max dps in any raid situation. Hunting around for simple priority/rotation/gear/chants wont bring you far.

Use the ingame loot, atlastloot addon or wowhead.

personally i would use EJ, wowhead class forum and mmo-champ for my class reference...and then use chardev to play with the simulator for my dps

Yea... that's what I heard about arcane mage also. Well... it seems Blizz has failed again

i miss ret pallies spamming 2-3 buttons

I fail to see the difference of priority and rotation that u guys seem to keep talking about.

If a spell/skill has high priority, of course i'm gonna spam it and make sure it's on CD the entire time. So to me it's the same thing. Not sure what u all talking about.
Just because u have more buttons to spam now doesn't make it less of a spamming frenzy.

This post has been edited by King83: Aug 12 2011, 11:53 AM

What so hard to understand woh ?? I better elaborate with example before you tell me understand your england and GTFO.

Rotation -> If doing A followed by B and C will give you maximum DPS output, then you die die by all means also must do A followed by B and C. In other lay man term, you follow the protocol from A to Z.

Priority means you prioritize a certain skill/skills, by making your own call based on your current situation. An example is DK rune system,

Let's take Blood DK, in a raid tanking a boss. All 6 runes are on cd, one of the frost and unholy runes is about to ready at the same time, and the boss is about to hit you hard with his predictable skill and unfortunately, the debuff (frost fever and -10% attack dmg) on the boss is also gone and my damn Outbreak is on cd still. So, would I spent the almost ready frost and unholy for a Death Strike to shield myself for the predictable attack, or should I spent them to reapply the debuff on the boss (dont forget there's always this GCD around) ?? It's your call really and here's where the decision need to be made and thus sum up, welcome to the Cata's priority system.

Maybe for DPS class such situation aint so obvious, I dont know since I failed horribly at DPS (trash tanking me instead when I play DPS, comment from guildies ) and I know Blizz pretty much failed as there are a couple of class still maintain or has become as few buttons class haha..

Rotation's fixed. For warriors, there's an optimal opener, the rest's on priority based.
Priority's based on your own judgement. Like what you've mentioned. Better dps skills normally equates higher priority, but that doesn't include something retarded than say, sneaking in a cs in between last 3 hits of boss... it's still up to your own gauging in the end.

yea basically like affliction warlocks..we have an optimal opener

shadowbolt > haunt > bane of doom > corruption > unstable affliction

this would be a rotation if u wanna call it but then is an opener only..after unstable affliction cast..is all up to priority...which is u must see which dot is going to finish and refresh them asap but then u might find a situation where haunt is going to expire together with unstable affliction...so i must know my priority of the spell 1st..which to cast between haunt and unstable affliction...so i basically would go for haunt then only unstable affliction...


another example would be when the target is 25% health or below..we need to execute drain soul where will give us the best dps...but then we still need to refresh our dots by following priority where sometimes nightfaill procs...which give us the ability to cast a shadow bolt without casting time..means instant cast..but then shadow bolt is not that important in our priority list...so we can ignore it 1st and refresh other dots such as haunt and bane of doom..but then drain soul has higher priority then shadow bolt which mean we can just ignore the night fall proc and continue drain soul after refreshing our haunt and bane of doom.

this is priority means if i am not mistaken

This post has been edited by intothefantasy: Aug 12 2011, 08:58 PM

Best dps spec for warlock atm is demo. Might wanna use that instead brah.

Was topping on Ragnaros 10 with 21~22k dps for most tries.

imho for rag demo is the best but then i still prefer using afflic for certain fights in fl and i do use demo for certain fights as well...but then my example above is to explain abt priority example and i hope this wont end up a thread regarding warlock best spec etc

Huh ?? I thought aff lock is the best spec now ?? They are among the top3 DPS spec now according to raidbot.com

Fight dependent. Simcraft Results
Fights like say, Baleroc, it would top without a problem at all. Heavy movement fight like perhaps lord rhyo or even shannox, it sorta suck balls.

It lacks severely for on demand burst tho. Which is something I'm not quite comfortable with. I spent 2 weeks with it, I had my fun, but I think in some sense, affliction and even destro bring more to the table.

As for rag, I'm actually quite apprehensive about how good demo is on that fight. I mean I use to think it's gonna be useful on seed phase for AE, but when I look at the damage meter, it's not actually as much as I thought it'll be. Without felguard, son of flame can't be taken down fast enough neither, which kinda bugs me.

All in all, but to personal preferences on it.

World of Warcraft used to revolve around skill rotation for optimize/maximize DPS, this recently has turned untrue thanks to Cataclysm introduction to mastery. Mastery turn the skill spamming into more priority oriented rather than being dull rotation.

Vanilla WoW

A > B > C > D > burn rage > rinse and repeat

Cataclysm

A > D > B > burn rage > proc > C > random skill mash

This is to turn gaming to be more fun and challenging, thats all about skill.

for Status priority, especially for melee plate wearer in PVE environment. trying to reach 8% Hit is of utmost importance, next is to reach effective Expertise of 26. This is true to all end-game raid condition. Since the introduction of Mastery, stacking up Mastery rating is prioritize over other status. reforge needless stats such as excess Hit and Expertise into Mastery. Other important stats such as Crit Rating, Attack power (note that 1 STR award plate wearer 2 AP).

This post has been edited by Yue: Aug 13 2011, 12:58 PM

For warrior make sure
Get 8% Hit, 26 Expertise. After that Strength > Crit > Hit > Mastery > Haste

rotation
Colossus smash, bloodthirst, raging blow, cleave.. slam only if bloodsurge

and before attack make sure buff with Battle shout, death wish or recklessness for another extra damage and crit