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 Balance Transfer, What is it actually???

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shiroikun
post Mar 8 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 8 2012, 11:42 AM)
Need advice:

Say my MBB Amex statement balance on 3/3/12 is rm900.
but the current balance is RM3000 (8/3/12) (inc. statement bal of rm900).
Can I still do a BT to Citibank by phone (only need to provide acc# and amount) for the amount of RM3000 instead of RM900.
Due date to pay MBB is 23/3/12.
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Yes you can. Just tell the citi banker to help you BT RM3000
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post Mar 8 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(shiroikun @ Mar 8 2012, 12:01 PM)
Yes you can. Just tell the citi banker to help you BT RM3000
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Thanks will do it after finding out the T&C of the CitiBank 0% BT.
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post Mar 8 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 8 2012, 11:17 AM)
Well, I would categorized BT into three types:

1. 0% Balance Transfer which no interest is imposed thru out the duration nor any admin fees.

2. Reducing Balance where interest is imposed on balance outstanding. E.g. HLB BT and Citibank Ready Credit.

3. Upfront Interest Balance Transfer where you are imposed interest upon approval. E.g. AmBank. This is the most expensive of the three above.

When there is upfront interest, the effective interest will be much higher. For example, the AmBank 8.99% upfront interest is equivalent to effeective interest of 16.38% p.a. Click here to AmBank site to read more.

Same thing for AMFlexi-Pay, interest is charged Upfront and therefore the effective interest is higher.

If you really need to utilize your credit card's credit facility, get a credit card with low interest (there is actually no such card) like Affin or Maybank 2 AMEX where the interest rate is less than 10% on a reducing balance. Best go for 0% and don't pay a sen of interest.

Click here to read my previous article at My Credit Cards where I have shown that Upfront Interest of 8% is no difference from credit card's 17.5% interest.
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blink.gif Thanks for the Info Gen-X,

From the request form I procure via this link amtransfer I thought it was a reducing balance.

what the best option for me if I want to use balance transfer method to prolonged my payment plan with special interest rate. is it wise of me to do so? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(inderaz @ Mar 8 2012, 01:05 PM)
what the best option for me if I want to use balance transfer method to prolonged my payment plan with special interest rate. is it wise of me to do so?    sweat.gif
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what cards you have now? How much? How Long? These 3 question you need to know first.

If you have read previous posts, PBB and AEON offering 6 month 0%. BSN too if not mistaken.

If you don't have above cards but can settle your debt in 6 months - HLB reducing balance is a good option as the more you pay earlier the less interest you 'll be imposed. If you can only afford equal installments, then maybe AMBAnk 6 months at 4.99% ok lah.

For BT above 6 months:

STEP 1 - keep your credit cards in the drawer until you settle your debt in full. Use cash and you'll sure spend less.

STEP 2 - figure out how much you can repay for the next few months - very important because if you fail to make payment required, you will end up paying 18%.

STEP 3 -compare BT plan monthly payment versus what you can afford from STEP 2 using this calculator and see which one actually charges more interest.

Reminder - STEP 1 is a must else good luck to you and you can forget about STEP 2 and STEP 3.


And when you do settle all your debts in FULL, start afresh by reading my article Introduction to Credit Cards for Beginners tongue.gif

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post Mar 8 2012, 08:30 PM

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amy bank have 0% interest currently? would appreciate if pros here could tell. or at least better offer if no 0% interest..
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Feb 10 2012, 03:48 PM)
Citibank got 0% 6 months balance transfer thing...I just did for one...plan to do again before end of promotion 29th Feb 2012
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bro, I also got apply this 0% BT promotion on feb 2012 and my statement came already.
The BT amount is mix with my normal retail transaction. I dont know how much I should pay in order not to get penalty charges.
So, I called up the CS and the shit Yestin give me the answer is the only way to avoid penalty charges is I need to pay full amount.
Means I need to pay full of my retail transaction + the BT full amount.
What the fu*k question? what is the meaning of 0% 6months BT ?
do you have any idea ?


Added on March 9, 2012, 8:52 am
QUOTE(l3iTi @ Feb 17 2012, 11:43 PM)
Not sure on this...since i've been reading that some of the cc holders get the offer by receiving phone call from CS....
so i just try luck by approaching them instead....let me receive another call from them tomorrow first....i'll update here again...

Updated on 11.06am 18 Feb

The officer named Mark called. Double confirmed with him that the BT 6mths I'm having is 0%.

Updated on 11.35am 18 Feb

Another officer called in to process this. Give me hear the T&C, re-verify the amt, the account #
Ta daa.. "BT will be completed in 5 working days. However we will expedite it for 3 working days."
Info gotten --> 5% min payment, u must settle the total BT in 6th mths.
                --> the BT info will appear in Mar'12 statement
                --> payment that you made will be clear by hierachy. Eg --> You deposit $ into your cc account, it will be clear in sequence as --> Finance Charges, Retail Charges, EPP then only BT

So i consider i already get this 0% 6 mths BT to CitiBank cc  icon_rolleyes.gif

Updated on 20 Feb

BT details being reflected in my e-statement....very efficient....
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Bro, I also got applied this 0% 6-months BT with reducing balance.
The call centre staff, En. Wafi confirmed with me that I just need to pay 5% of BT outstanding amount in first 5 month, then 6th month pay in full.
And my statement already arrive. The problem is the BT amount is mix with my retail transaction which mean in one same statement.

And yesterday and today I just call the call centre and you guys know what is their answer?

They inform me even now i pay minimum amount, I still will kena financial charges this month.

My feb 2012 statement:
- normal transaction is total RM200
- The bt amount is RM20K

based of my understanding, I just need to pay RM200 in full + the RM1000 (20K * 5%) = RM1200 (it can avoid financial charge)

But, what the CS told me was even though I pay minimum payment, I will still got financial charge unless I PAY FULL???

what was that ? fu*k....then what is the meaning of 0% BT ??????

This post has been edited by v2_vehooi: Mar 9 2012, 08:52 AM
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post Mar 9 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Mar 8 2012, 11:58 PM)
bro, I also got apply this 0% BT promotion on feb 2012 and my statement came already.
The BT amount is mix with my normal retail transaction. I dont know how much I should pay in order not to get penalty charges.
So, I called up the CS and the shit Yestin give me the answer is the only way to avoid penalty charges is I need to pay full amount.
Means I need to pay full of my retail transaction + the BT full amount.
What the fu*k question? what is the meaning of 0% 6months BT ?
do you have any idea ?


Added on March 9, 2012, 8:52 am
Bro, I also got applied this 0% 6-months BT with reducing balance.
The call centre staff, En. Wafi confirmed with me that I just need to pay 5% of BT outstanding amount in first 5 month, then 6th month pay in full.
And my statement already arrive. The problem is the BT amount is mix with my retail transaction which mean in one same statement.

And yesterday and today I just call the call centre and you guys know what is their answer?

They inform me even now i pay minimum amount, I still will kena financial charges this month.

My feb 2012 statement:
   - normal transaction is total RM200
   - The bt amount is RM20K

based of my understanding, I just need to pay RM200 in full + the RM1000 (20K * 5%) = RM1200  (it can avoid financial charge)

But, what the CS told me was even though I pay minimum payment, I will still got financial charge unless I PAY FULL???

what was that ? fu*k....then what is the meaning of 0% BT ??????
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If you refer to your BT T&C, all payments will first be applied towards payment of BT before any retail transactions. It is still 0% for the BT, just that because you had not paid yr retail transactions, you are being charged interest. And as mentioned by many forumers before, once you do BT, keep the card lock up and do not use it until the BT has been settled tongue.gif

This post has been edited by tgeoklin: Mar 9 2012, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Mar 8 2012, 11:58 PM)
Bro, I also got applied this 0% 6-months BT with reducing balance.
The call centre staff, En. Wafi confirmed with me that I just need to pay 5% of BT outstanding amount in first 5 month, then 6th month pay in full.
And my statement already arrive. The problem is the BT amount is mix with my retail transaction which mean in one same statement.

And yesterday and today I just call the call centre and you guys know what is their answer?

They inform me even now i pay minimum amount, I still will kena financial charges this month.

My feb 2012 statement:
  - normal transaction is total RM200
  - The bt amount is RM20K

based of my understanding, I just need to pay RM200 in full + the RM1000 (20K * 5%) = RM1200  (it can avoid financial charge)

But, what the CS told me was even though I pay minimum payment, I will still got financial charge unless I PAY FULL???

what was that ? fu*k....then what is the meaning of 0% BT ??????
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you bt a total of 120k for 6 months or total of 20k for 6 months?
if total of 20k for 6 months, your monthly repayment for the bt will be EITHER
1) 20k/6 = 3333.33 OR
2) 20k/6 x 5% = 166.67

if total of 120k for 6 months, your monthly repayment for the bt will be EITHER
1) 120k/6 = 20k OR
2) 120k/6 x 5% = 1000

it depends on the tnc of your bt when u sign up, both still 0% but (2) is definitely better
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Sometime i feel that they offer 0% BT is to tie customer coz of $50 gomen tax
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post Mar 9 2012, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Mar 8 2012, 11:58 PM)
bro, I also got apply this 0% BT promotion on feb 2012 and my statement came already.
The BT amount is mix with my normal retail transaction. I dont know how much I should pay in order not to get penalty charges.
So, I called up the CS and the shit Yestin give me the answer is the only way to avoid penalty charges is I need to pay full amount.
Means I need to pay full of my retail transaction + the BT full amount.
What the fu*k question? what is the meaning of 0% 6months BT ?
do you have any idea ?


Added on March 9, 2012, 8:52 am
Bro, I also got applied this 0% 6-months BT with reducing balance.
The call centre staff, En. Wafi confirmed with me that I just need to pay 5% of BT outstanding amount in first 5 month, then 6th month pay in full.
And my statement already arrive. The problem is the BT amount is mix with my retail transaction which mean in one same statement.

And yesterday and today I just call the call centre and you guys know what is their answer?

They inform me even now i pay minimum amount, I still will kena financial charges this month.

My feb 2012 statement:
  - normal transaction is total RM200
  - The bt amount is RM20K

based of my understanding, I just need to pay RM200 in full + the RM1000 (20K * 5%) = RM1200  (it can avoid financial charge)

But, what the CS told me was even though I pay minimum payment, I will still got financial charge unless I PAY FULL???

what was that ? fu*k....then what is the meaning of 0% BT ??????
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Care to share which bank's 0% BT are you referring to ?
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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Mar 8 2012, 11:58 PM)
bro, I also got apply this 0% BT promotion on feb 2012 and my statement came already.
The BT amount is mix with my normal retail transaction. I dont know how much I should pay in order not to get penalty charges.
So, I called up the CS and the shit Yestin give me the answer is the only way to avoid penalty charges is I need to pay full amount.
Means I need to pay full of my retail transaction + the BT full amount.
What the fu*k question? what is the meaning of 0% 6months BT ?
do you have any idea ?


Added on March 9, 2012, 8:52 am
Bro, I also got applied this 0% 6-months BT with reducing balance.
The call centre staff, En. Wafi confirmed with me that I just need to pay 5% of BT outstanding amount in first 5 month, then 6th month pay in full.
And my statement already arrive. The problem is the BT amount is mix with my retail transaction which mean in one same statement.

And yesterday and today I just call the call centre and you guys know what is their answer?

They inform me even now i pay minimum amount, I still will kena financial charges this month.

My feb 2012 statement:
  - normal transaction is total RM200
  - The bt amount is RM20K

based of my understanding, I just need to pay RM200 in full + the RM1000 (20K * 5%) = RM1200  (it can avoid financial charge)

But, what the CS told me was even though I pay minimum payment, I will still got financial charge unless I PAY FULL???

what was that ? fu*k....then what is the meaning of 0% BT ??????
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That's why I prefer BT that creates a new account number (e.g. CIMB, HLB and some of MBB plans). Up to today I still don't understand the hierarchy thingy, so better I avoid it.

Or like tgeoklin said, make sure there is no outstanding balance before doing BT and no new transaction until BT settled.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Mar 9 2012, 12:43 PM)
Care to share which bank's 0% BT are you referring to ?
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He is refering to CitiBank 0% BT.
After knowing his experience, I decided not to do the CitiBank 0% BT. Too much unnecessary worries.
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Citibank 0% BT is so "dangerous".
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 11 2012, 09:43 PM)
Citibank 0% BT is so "dangerous".
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Just called my leng lui CS and she said no interest will be charged. I made payment %% of BT and full payment for retails side...

Guess need to keep track of the payment..lol
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Mar 12 2012, 04:42 PM)
I made payment %% of BT and full payment for retails side...

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You mean you pay 5% of the BT and full payment for retail transactions to avoid any fees and charges?

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 12 2012, 05:25 PM)
You mean you pay 5% of the BT and full payment for retail transactions to avoid any fees and charges?
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mind to share which bank has the 0% interest BT for now?
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UOB's BT 0% program from New-To-Bank may cause me to pay Finance charges for retail spends. .... still getting UOB CS and UOB card agent to clarify for me.

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Mar 16 2012, 11:04 AM)
UOB's BT 0% program from New-To-Bank may cause me to pay Finance charges for retail spends. .... still getting UOB CS and UOB card agent to clarify for me.

vmad.gif mad.gif
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Lesson learned - only go for BT where new account is created or you won't be using the card for your transactions.

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 16 2012, 11:18 AM)
Lesson learned - only go for BT where new account is created or you won't be using the card for your transactions.
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I'm going to get it fixed so that I can use the UOB ONE Card + Enjoy BT flexibility.

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