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dillmac
post Nov 1 2011, 11:46 AM

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Hi everyone, good morning. I'm new here, as you can see from my post count, haha.

I've been following this post for the past weeks. I really want to be a successful trader, so I got a live account last week. I've been practising for almost 3 weeks before opening my live account.

And man, now I know what some people meant by trading forex is not easy. It's quite challenging, but it just makes me all jolly happy when I win some pips. That's when it starts to get ugly, I became greedy. I started putting in larger lots everytime, went against my exit strategy, then I lost. Every start of the day I will win, then at the end of the day, I will be in negative.

Currently I've lost more than 90% of my starting capital, which at first I was quite emotional about. But then I realize that I need to get back my capital. I'm still very pumped up on trading, I won't give up.

So, I've thought of some strategies. Currently, I'm trading short term, with only MACD and Bollinger Band as my guide, and also observing the price action. I also do draw lines to see where the graph is heading, mind you, I've been only using 1minute time frame. I do occasionally view 5m,15m time frame to see a bigger picture, but mainly I will use the 1m frame. I think my current strategy might have contributed to my loss.

I was thinking now, maybe I should move towards trading longer term. Longer term in my definition would be from 1-4 hours max. I like control over my trades, so I would be wary if I want to go longer. I also like to trade on a naked chart as I believe that too many indicators will only confuse and slow down my entry and exit point.

I would love to hear some advice from everyone here on a long term trade strategy. How long do you normally hold your trades? What is the average number of pips you collect before exiting? What indicators would be best to use and how to use it the best? What time frames would be best?

I hope to hear on your experience.
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post Nov 1 2011, 03:19 PM

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Back to demo. You're killing your account with spreads. Try trade m30/h1, you will see less setup but generally more solid than lower TF. Set a min TP if u always take profit too early maybe 20-60pip.

There's no best but there's you good in something you know best. Find your own edge/personality that suits you best.



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3 weeks practice & 1M frame..... man i salute you ! 

should spend more time on practice 

my piece of advice:
don't chase your loss.. concentrate on your trading plan
you might want to change your time frame...1H? 4H?
no one can tell you how to trade... it's all based on your understanding in the market and what it is telling you...meaning; hard work! read, analyse, think... etc etc

anyway... welcome ...



Thank you for the advice FxPlayboy and poks. I'm now focusing on TF of 30mins and above. It does feels more relax this way, in regards that I don't constantly see the graph making new candle sticks and going up and down too often.

I've also always come upon articles mentioning about finding your own trading style, and comments from both of you, a real trader, just made it more concrete. I will find my trading style, and I might have just found it biggrin.gif

I am now analyzing my chart, taking advantage of the drawing of support and resistance line based on past graphs. As I am typing this, I've made some healthy 57 pips on my account shorting Eur/Usd. yay! I will however not rest on my laurels.

I have this one question though, if you guys trade based on a large timeframe, perhaps more than 30minutes, how often do you check back on your trades? Do you leave it for an hour, or do you just leave the computer on and check every minute? Or is there a specific time range that one should check on his trades? Maybe very often before a news is announced we should check, no?

Thank you very much!
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post Nov 3 2011, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(sapapa @ Nov 1 2011, 04:28 PM)
There is no need to keep checking. Put tp/sl with trailing stops. Check once or twice a day.
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Got that! I'm practising with tp/sl now. Sure gets me more free time doing this. haha!

QUOTE(scar_face008 @ Nov 1 2011, 04:59 PM)

Added on November 1, 2011, 5:08 pm
3 weeks training is quiet enough, as long as you can stick to your trading plan and control your emotion notworthy.gif just gain more exp along the way. start by trading small lot. don;t jump big. this is not quick rich scheme.

as for trading which timeframe, that depends on your strategy. if you want to trade on 1m 5m use scalping strategy. don't use long timeframe strategy. if you have time, sure you can trade 24/5. but that's tiring and stressing. you can babysit your trade all the time if you have time. but i believe most here only part time and have 8-5 job.
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yeah, even if I have the whole day to trade, it'll be really tiring and the fatigue will distract my trades.

QUOTE(poks @ Nov 1 2011, 05:08 PM)
nahh....
if trading is in your blood... you'll be dead if you don't see your charts...
nowadays people got so much time and sit in front of pc.....
my terminal is always open... good practice to control your itchy fingers & stick to your plan...
it just that you only need to check your chart every 4H in my case ..
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Poks, I am also now checking price quotes on mobile. haha, so much for mobility. I can only view the price though, taking action will require some time to get to my computer.

QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Nov 1 2011, 05:42 PM)
Warren Buffet said, wall street makes its money on activity, you make your money on inactivity.

The more active you trades, the faster you die. Trust me ....
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I will keep this in mind. Thank you bulkbiz.

QUOTE(sapapa @ Nov 2 2011, 01:03 AM)
You are plain ignorance. It has nothing to do with you connection with the charts and so. If you see long-term, 1 day per check is good enough if you know what I'm talking.

You are driving on a road for 10 hours while I am only driving one hour. Who is more prone to accident?
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I would enjoy a 10 hour ride on the road with a convertible. haha. But I suppose, the more frequent you check, like for example every 5 or 10 minutes, maybe you're more prone to going against your long term target that you have set earlier. The Market does change direction pretty quickly within the short time range, but then it eventually goes back to the longer time range direction. I guess this what happened to me, thinking the graph is changing course only to find that it got back to the long term direction.



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The audusd, I think it could very well go downwards in longer term from the 30m graph. Perhaps going upwards in shorter term, but could, once breaking that 1.0205 level, goes rallying downwards. Just my view.


Anyway, thank you all for the advices. I'm honing my long term trading skills now, while deciding to check every 3 or 4 hours, checking on my mobile to be precise. haha.
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post Nov 3 2011, 05:08 PM

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Is it just me or is there a similar relationship on both this graph of AuD and EuD? The graph just seem so closely related.


p.s. : AuD is rallying upwards alright.
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post Nov 3 2011, 08:50 PM

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Wah, again, very similar pattern of AuD and EuD graph.


I hope Mr. Rime gets to lock in his profit.


I have a question, do you guys take advantage of retracement? Or do you purely take on trend?
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post Nov 3 2011, 09:08 PM

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hmm... since I see that AuD & EuD is quite similar.. and looking that EuD already going down quite a number of pips, AuD is still up there, turning it's way downwards.

Does this mean that AuD is lagging somehow, so from the graph of EuD(on a downward graph), we could take advantage of it and use it on AuD(shorting AuD)? What do you guys think? better, lets see the result later.

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post Nov 4 2011, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(sapapa @ Nov 3 2011, 09:17 PM)
Eur/Usd and Aud/Usd is nothing related. Do not use it as an indication. Just because it happens once doesn't mean it happen again. The trick is to see denominator which plays a big role in these.
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Alright. I'm still observing and studying the graphs' relationship. I've got the same movement/result on both graph as what I've posted previously. AuD did retrace downwards following EuD. However, like you said, do not use it as an indication, perhaps not just yet.

And what do you mean by denominator? is it resistance?

QUOTE(poks @ Nov 4 2011, 02:20 AM)

eurusd & audusd ... 70% of the time you will see it show same setup and movement...
i refer to eurusd, audusd & usdcad to make my decisions....
just try looking at these guys before making trade.. they do give clues...

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Ah, thank you for the tips poks. I've just seen UsCad graph. it does have a similar movement to EuD & AuD. It's just that as UsCad goes up, the other 2 will go down, since the pairing itself is the opposite. haha. great!
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(odin140 @ Nov 16 2011, 12:29 PM)
Can anyone recommend a site to learn? Friends are interested about it. The very very basic stuff. No knowledge on forex at all. But keen to learn. Hope pros here can guide abit.
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learn at babypips schoool http://www.babypips.com/
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post Nov 16 2011, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(odin140 @ Nov 16 2011, 02:22 PM)
Normally you guys trade based on which platform? Mt4 and using what company? I not it's not appropriate to type out here, but im really curious as different company offer different type of rates right? Does the rates and commissions vary from firm to firm? Or it doesn't make much difference?
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You can look for fx broker at forexpeacearmy at http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/ . Read background of company and choose who you trust.

The brokers charge through price spread. Some brokers will have large spread, some tight, it depends on their liquidity provider.

QUOTE(mr.rime @ Nov 16 2011, 06:10 PM)
so fast reached my tarfet 1.018...should hv wait anther 1hr...bt nvm...good for now...how u guyz...so silent sice mon....
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wah!! that was some nice rally Mr. Rime. Everyone must be trading hard, haha.
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post Nov 16 2011, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(mr.rime @ Nov 16 2011, 07:00 PM)
dillmac,....yes,was trading within my forecast.....now in again at long 1.0125....target 1.018...SL 1.008
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ah, I was shorting with EuD. Now waiting for it to break the 1.3480 level before going long.

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post Nov 16 2011, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(mr.rime @ Nov 16 2011, 08:21 PM)
i long double my volume of 1.012 at 1.01....n now all sell off at 1.013...around +50pips...
now waiting for anther round...will onli in when i see something...update later....
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Looks like graph reversing downwards for EuD. Suppose it will be the same for AuD?
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post Nov 24 2011, 07:18 AM

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I believe there might be a small upwards rally today for EuD, perhaps until the 1.34xx before another decline. Just my view. I'm still going to wait however, can't seem to find concrete direction at this hour.

I have a question for you guys, how is trading day like in December? Will it be the same, as in the volatility and execution speed? Should we be extremely careful during the holiday season?

I find that trading on a friday is quite slow. That was when I was trading with a 1m timeframe. But looking at past fridays' daily frame, the low to high candle bar height is quite decent, almost as equal as other days if not better.

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post Nov 29 2011, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(mr.rime @ Nov 29 2011, 12:59 AM)
i short aud 0.992...missed the long since morning...most analyst say it will bear...what do u guyz think?....im vy uncertain...sad sad...rumourssss
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Perhaps it will still be bear. Maybe these few days will be correction? I will trade with caution though.
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post Nov 30 2011, 12:25 PM

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I'm wondering, how much of your capital do you guys put to trade at any one moment?
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post Nov 30 2011, 08:35 PM

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Everyone, I have a question! How much "Forex learning fees" you guys had to pay/spend before having made a consistent return?

I'm almost reaching the limit of my capital funding. I've learned a lot. Especially patience..... Patience is really important, and I've been really impatient and went in very aggressively. And now it's really painful, but I also learn to not let emotion get control, so this pain I take in as an important lesson.

I'm willing to put in my final capital and trade really carefully and patiently. I just need to know, how much money did you guys 'spend/pay' and perhaps how long did you guys trade before reaching the positive.

Thank you for your kind advice =D
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post Dec 1 2011, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(mr.rime @ Dec 1 2011, 11:08 PM)
ok..im in for aud short now.......1.025....let see what happen later


Added on December 1, 2011, 11:37 pm30min profit 30pips...good enough with this uncertainty....take have of my trade profit...keep going on!


Added on December 1, 2011, 11:41 pmanother 10pips within minutes....stop all trade and profit it 1st .....

take the profit before they take ours.......

waiting for anther right time...
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Great Mr. Rime!!! I dont know why, but I'm all smiling =D haha. Must be excited with your profit run. I'm back to demo now, test my new strategy.
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post Dec 2 2011, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(mr.rime @ Dec 2 2011, 12:00 AM)
what happen dillmac?...but whatever it is,yesterday was a bad day if ppl goes short from early stage....out of control if no SL done.....i vekieve its on bullish trend...dat y i dun dare to go short for too long....

amyhs88, u come in on a bad day...im just lucky enough..or elsei will b the same like u,...good luck!
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True, I was totally lost yesterday. My trade was all over the place and I went against my principle. Like I said, I'm almost reaching my capital budget for now, so I want to make sure that my latest strategy that I have refined works before continuing on real account.
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post Dec 2 2011, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(mr.rime @ Dec 2 2011, 12:12 AM)
this happen most of the time when trade are not goin our expected way and especially much more away frm our expectation...that the time we need to control n stick back to our principle.....
i migth be saying the right way here, qhen times come, i sometime lost also..but 1 thing i learn...know how to letgo n come back again LATER,not right away....stay away n get some refeeshment is good......
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Thank you for that advice Mr. Rime. I seem to always jump in again after a profit run. Not so healthy move. Practising discipline on demo now, sure does take a long time to be very discipline.
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post Dec 2 2011, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(amyhs99 @ Dec 2 2011, 01:13 AM)
If i know how to let go i wont lose that much today..  sad.gif


Amy, maybe you would like to trade small lots first to get your rhythm. Have you practised beforehand? maybe you can have a read at babypips.com so you can learn patterns of graph and candlestick and so on.

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post Dec 5 2011, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(Lzhiwei @ Dec 5 2011, 03:10 AM)
i do not have a cc card. so how im going to transfer the money?
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Check if the broker you're using accept debit card. Sometimes, companies that accept credit card also accept debit card. Else, use a bank wire.

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