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> Dispute against: NicBB` (Lee Wai Kuen), money received but never send out item

atah
post Aug 2 2011, 06:53 PM, updated 7y ago

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Forumer you are complaining against: NicBB` (click here for his profile)

Item being sold/bought: Jusco Vouchers

Original thread link: HERE (with screen captured below, before he removes it)

Date of transaction: 22 Feb. 2011

Details of the complaint : I will make it simple, in points form below.

- Seller agreed to sell me the vouchers worth RM500 at RM400.
- Both agreed to use postage as he's outstation.
- Both agreed 50% payment before seller send out the item, and balance 50% after I receive the vouchers.
- Bank in RM200 into his Maybank account on 22/2/2011 at 10.35pm (I have the receipt, will post it up later).
- Seller told me he will send by Kangaroo Express.
- After about 1 week, seller called me and informed me that the parcel was returned to him. Agreed to COD as seller claimed that he will come over to my area once his car is repaired.
- Since then many excuses are given by the seller: next week, next week, and next week again and again.
- Seller seldom online here in Lowyat, so I gave him the benefit of doubt that he's busy. Therefore I didn't create any dispute case here. sweat.gif
- But found that he's active back since few weeks ago.
- Given final warning to seller 2 weeks ago via SMS as well as PM, but no reply from him eventhough he's online most of the time.
- Therefore decided to create this dispute thread as the 1st step of my actions, before proceeding to the next steps.
- Seller has also asked money from another forummer (KaWaii-Eshop). Will ask him to show proof here as well.
- In this seller's thread (HERE), he claimed that his item was sold to someone but turned out it's not. Seems another scam case.
- Seller is posting actively again (HERE). Seems like he has many phones for sale. hmm.gif

Therefore I would like the moderator to put a 'Dispute' tag on him until this case is settled, to prevent more victims just in case! mad.gif

I would like to propose 3 options for seller to close this case:
1) Refund my RM200
2) Send me Jusco vouchers worth RM250 (as per original agreement)
3) Send me Jusco vouchers worth RM500 and I will bank in RM200 to seller (as per original agreement)

I demand seller to contact me and solve this case within 1 week from today, or further actions will be considered.

I reserve my rights in regards to any further action.


Update on amount 'cheated' by him:
1) atah -> RM200
2) KaWaii-Eshop -> RM100
3) telomasen88 -> RM750

Hopefully no need to extend this list anymore.


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atah
post Aug 2 2011, 11:36 PM

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Thanks for all the comments.

Already posted on some of his posts. He was online just now a few times but still didn't bother to reply here.

Will give him 1 week before the next action.


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post Aug 2 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(StrawberryGirL @ Aug 2 2011, 11:39 PM)
he last active at 10.53pm today

but no sign of coming here and explain.. 
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Yes, you are correct. Not only on 10.53pm but already online here a few times after I posted this thread and PM him about it. I'm sure that he has read the PM as well as this thread.

Maybe mod can check his IP, whether he's in KL or JB/Seremban as he claimed.

atah
post Aug 3 2011, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Aug 3 2011, 04:04 AM)
Details has been added
He is quite active in ps3 gaming tournament. And judging from his IP and his previous posting, i believe he is located around Cheras, KL.
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Many thanks Apis for the info. He told me the vouchers are won from some gaming competition as well.


Added on August 3, 2011, 5:40 pm
QUOTE(telomasen88 @ Aug 3 2011, 04:05 PM)
here is an update about him..

Lee Wai Kuen
IC - 910421-14-6415

house phone number - 03-92822691

i think i may be scam also for his stupid Iphone....he said later he'll COD with me in Cheras this Sunday...If he scam we should just bring him to police and saman him..


Added on August 3, 2011, 4:19 pmi think if u call the phone house his parents will answer....
can get his parents to get involve also smile.gif
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Great. Possible to get the address as well?

BTW, do you meant you have also bank in some money to him for the iPhone?



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post Aug 3 2011, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(telomasen88 @ Aug 3 2011, 05:45 PM)
Exactly..done 50% of the payment..he's gonna super die like seriously if he gave me other excuse..well I don't have the address..if possible can ask TM to track his number to his home address..
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Too bad, same trick, 50%......

Anyone here work in TM or other telcos? Can help to track his address?
-> 03-92822691
-> 017-2304724
-> 016-2812122

atah
post Aug 3 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(telomasen88 @ Aug 3 2011, 06:06 PM)
so TS...what will be ur next action? got his IC number...but donno right or not....
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As I mentioned above, I'm giving him 1 week from yesterday to solve this. I have a plan for next step, will let you know if there's no reply from seller within 1 week.


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post Aug 4 2011, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(BigEGO @ Aug 4 2011, 01:51 PM)
Just revealed his name and account number.
This time it is CIMB.
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Wow.... dupes now doh.gif doh.gif

Seems that he's now really into 'turbo' mode on trying to trick people.

Since we have 2 bank accounts now, any bank officers can help to get the address?

I would suggest, once we have the address, we shall organise a 'trip' to his place.


Added on August 4, 2011, 3:08 pm
QUOTE(telomasen88 @ Aug 3 2011, 06:52 PM)
yup...ASAP....go police better smile.gif


Added on August 4, 2011, 11:00 amany update....im super furious la weyh....aiyoooo
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What was the response when you called the house number?



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post Aug 4 2011, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(telomasen88 @ Aug 4 2011, 03:10 PM)
i have the culprit statement saying he's a scammer to me...
now im damn pissed off....

"telomansen88 u arleady know that i scam u , now u want the refund a not? i pay u back byinstallment is it ok? if not i think i cant take up Rm750 at once for u"

what r we supposed to do now?
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I don't mind if he pays back in installment, but must get him to reply black and white here in this post.

I have updated the title of this post to include his name, since now it's proven that he's a 'pro' scammer.

I will also update the amount of each of us got cheated, what's your amount?

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post Aug 4 2011, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(telomasen88 @ Aug 4 2011, 03:15 PM)
RM750....im so gonna make sure he's dead man...
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RM750 sweat.gif sweat.gif

That's a lot!


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post Aug 4 2011, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(telomasen88 @ Aug 4 2011, 03:21 PM)
tell me about it!
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My next step is to file to the Tribunal for Consumer Claims, as it's considered a legal offense if he still don't want to pay back:

http://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php...id=52&Itemid=38

But we will need his address to deliver the tribunal claim documents to him.

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post Aug 4 2011, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Aug 4 2011, 04:18 PM)
i don't understand why you took so long to realize it's a scam. You should have posted it 1 month after you trade with him cause it would have avoided other victims from falling into his trap. You might have the patience but if a trade take 1 month and still not complete yet definitely there is something wrong. No need to be nice and give seller so many chances. Posting here doesn't means he is 100% scammer. This thread is for sellers and buyers to talk it out and clear things up. Having being able to tag a suspicious seller could avoid a lot of other victims and this is the most important reason to post about a dispute here. Getting your money back is secondary. At least this is what I see.
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That's exactly what I'm doing here. The main reason I created this thread was because I noted the seller was very active posting in the past few days. The seller was dormant for the past few months. This thread is to avoid other people from falling into similar traps. You might be right that getting back the money is secondary, but for RM750 it's not a small matter.


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post Aug 4 2011, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Aug 4 2011, 05:19 PM)
There you go. Thanks to my source. Details as per IC given.

Lee Wai Kuen
IC - 910421-14-6415
Address : 29c, 2-2-6, jalan palong, taman miharja, 55200 cheras



Should anyone having doubt whether this fella is guy or girl, plz see his throat/gullet.  tongue.gif
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Nice work there Apis. It's time for the next step mad.gif



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post Aug 6 2011, 05:08 PM

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Seller contacted me yesterday and offered to refund RM100 (50% only). I have rejected it and asked for full refund. But seller has been quite since then doh.gif


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post Aug 8 2011, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(telomasen88 @ Aug 8 2011, 12:10 PM)
Will do biggrin.gif
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How did u contacted him? I can't seems to get through his phone. PM also never reply.


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post Aug 10 2011, 02:45 PM

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Seller PM me yesterday, promised to refund on the 25th this month. The reason given was he has just refunded RM800 to someone. I hope that telomasen88 has got back his money.

Seems like I have wait for 2 more weeks hmm.gif


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post Aug 11 2011, 08:55 PM

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I've PMed kobEj0rdan about this thread. Hope that he'll clarify here.

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post Aug 11 2011, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(kobEj0rdan~ @ Aug 11 2011, 10:18 PM)
True i ask u bout it,but then he is damn good in kelentong org.haih i admit dat im so stupid dat time or maybe he got jampi o pukau me when he call.hehe who knows
Hes not yet refund to me.
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So who's the guy he claimed he has refunded the RM800? hmm.gif

I have PMed him to tell the truth, or else more people here will take further actions.


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post Aug 11 2011, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(kobEj0rdan~ @ Aug 11 2011, 10:38 PM)
Atah..dis guy is damn good in kelentong people.he promise me n telomasen to refund us by cheque.3 days waiting..haram takda.
800 ringgit dat he say.i believe also he kelentong.he just want us to keep waiting..
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Maybe you are right. Will give him last chance until he reads my PM. If no reply from him, I will update here and we shall take the next action.

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QUOTE(kobEj0rdan~ @ Aug 11 2011, 10:51 PM)
I bank in 800..huu yeah.my bad.nasi sudah jadi bubur 800 for a lesson
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Don't give up. We will get back our money.

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post Aug 11 2011, 11:02 PM

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I would suggest we file this case to the Tribunal for Consumer Claims. In preparation for this, please download and fill in the required forms here:

http://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php...id=71&Itemid=65

Since we have all his details, it will be easy to proceed with this.


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