batusai.. actually is the marketing strategy lah.. the chipset & concept r same just got extra this & missing that nia! 4 words send to u LPPL!

How many laptop u've switched in the past 6 months?

batusai my concept is stress GPU rather than stress CPU!

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Added on August 10, 2011, 5:30 pmi won't OC CPU cos i found out my cpu temp r not stable than GPU ever since i change new heat-sink! due to TP.. if u the condition of TP damn ok i think OC CPU/ram/hdd/ssd/etc should not a big deal at all!

This post has been edited by ngkhanmein: Aug 10 2011, 05:30 PM

there is absolutely no proof to say OC will shorten the life-span of your chip. it produces more heat, yes, but if you system can take it, there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

how do you know if your system can take it? monitor the temperature! if you are constantly getting 90C or so, please dont OC.

if not, there is really nothing to worry about.

all these unknown fear of OC are senseless. tell me how a chip/laptop will have shorter life-span if the temperature is still low after OC?

anyway, again, if you don't know what u are doing, please dont OC...

I have some real good laptop history to start with for the past years..

idk, But as far as switching em, as long as I dont rugi but I get extra performance. Who would mind?

Based on this page which is the details of Asus N45SF main board Can I say it support SATA III?
Intel® HM65 Express Chipset
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chi...ipset-hm65.html

You sound as if overclocking has no effect on systems at all. I've done it the correct way but I did not get any problem but unfortunately, GPU burnt happened to my friend. It depends on luck you see. Your system is designed to run on its on temperature. Therefore, they tend to set a safer margin for users. Only advanced users tend to breach it and maximize its potential. There is a risk in doing so and its lucky you have not had problem.

The way I see it. Overclocking stress the chip more for the way its designed. When they limit it to that core clock, I'm pretty sure something is done on the chip itself. Marketing strategy. I dont understand why they would wanna roll out lower end graphics when they're all based on the same chip and capable of achieving higher end speeds. From factory chips are produced and not all are identically same. Im sure AMD or Nvidia did testings on the chip before assembling it and setting up their clock speeds. And from there, I see good chips get to handle higher clock speeds while not-so-good ones get lower clock speeds. And from there comes out the variant.

I did some OC on GTX260m on G51VX before. I end up having artifacts and GPU failure. Bluescreen everytime I tried to play game. But lucky again its still under warranty. You might say Im not doing it right? But I have had stable performance and problem free until 1 month plus later it started. I guess its just my bad luck again.

Like you've said.. How do I know if my system can take it? While same question goes to you.. How would you know if your system can take it? and how long can it last?

For me, I guess its more of a luck.. if you OC but you dont get problem. Means you've got a good hardware. Whereas some people just get faulty laptops upon purchasing

@ngkhanmein

rather then laughing your ass off to my stupidity, why not provide some useful info for me to learn eh?

p/s: you have agreed to transfer 2k for me right?

Lee can be witness for it. lol.
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This post has been edited by Batusai: Aug 10 2011, 06:05 PM

lol.... so many pages already... ==

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Added on August 10, 2011, 6:51 pmi guess it's sv lol

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Added on August 10, 2011, 6:52 pmlol bro tj's B1

This post has been edited by simon3041: Aug 10 2011, 06:52 PM

How can it got burnt if watch over the temperature?

This is precisely what I tried to explained. Those lower end chip is the SAME chip but with lower default clock and voltage. It's hard to design a new chip and expensive to manufacture different chip for each model. So, all chip with same SP are basically same chip. They do the testings like you say, higher quality chip will run at higher speed. Keep producing the same chip with same nanometer (nm), the process became mature. More % chip will be able to run on higher frequency. But will nVidia or AMD simply stop producing 540M and produce only 550M? No, they will still produce both.

That is why some lower end card can run at higher frequency and stable.

Artifacts and BSOD are indication that you should not run it at that frequency. Lower it. Why it was OK 1 month ago? Beats me, graphic drivers? Games? Temperatures? Voltage? People are getting artifacts, BSOD even if they not OC.

tj... oc it... wahahaha

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Added on August 10, 2011, 7:26 pmlol... 900 is a big number...

This post has been edited by simon3041: Aug 10 2011, 07:26 PM

Its around 80 degrees IIRC.. IDK man.. its running prolong 80 degrees causing it to burnt? bad chip? You tell me

I dont see cases where GPU is burnt right away after overclocking. It only happens after usage..

Even producing the same chip with same nm, the chips will not be perfectly tuned to the speed wanted. Therefore, they tone down to lower frequencies which leads to lower end graphics. But when you OC, do you risk having the chip over-work and result in problems?

Artifacts and BSOD did not occur for the first month. Again, I have no idea why it would work for the 1st Month but fails me after that. I dont recall upgrading its drivers. Temperature wise, you should know GTX260m dont run cool? for me case averaged around 90 degrees. sometimes it reaches 100 degrees which I'll then stop gaming. This leads me to thinking that OC does have prolonged effect, its just a matter of time when it start showing problems. Like wise People do get artifacts, BSOD even they dont OC. Luck is not on their side. Unfortunately, I OC-ed my GPU and problem arises. I guess you cant really blame me for that. Its becoming a subjective matter for different users.

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Added on August 10, 2011, 7:32 pm@cowithgun

I think its kinda pointless we argue.

We had different experience and our thinking is kinda diff. No point telling each other whos right or wrong? We both have our own stand.



This post has been edited by Batusai: Aug 10 2011, 07:32 PM

lol yo bro.. i guess tat's typo.. i think it's sv... the red words written is GT540M lol... 55sf reached malaysia? i mean to say retail?

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Added on August 10, 2011, 7:39 pmtoo bad to be true.. i7 one cost 3699...

This post has been edited by simon3041: Aug 10 2011, 07:39 PM

aiks, i tot of getting this over dv6...ended up dv 6 is still the most value for money..i7+6770 cost 3000 vs i7 +gt555m +external subwoofer

lol i must say.. personally i vote for dv6.. shhhhh.. lol... although i am asus N series's die hard fans... HD6770M, i7, 2usb 3.0 ports, 750 GB HDD....

lolx.... hp dv6 is worth if can find witout beats... lolx...



the 55sf expensive cz... the dang bluray!!!

lol... why bring blue ray? i dont need tat... in fact, not using my ODD tat often lol...

15.6" drove me away from dv6 lol

lol... 300gram diff in weigh and subwoofer for 45/55sf might be 100gram at least?

well sub woofer i think i will put in room only la lol. well 300 grams can differ a lot especially u have to bring it from morning 8 to 5 wei lol

i found it 2 days ago in jb pc fair....2999 without beats solo~
can be found in lowyat plaza i think