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robeng
post Jul 29 2011, 11:49 AM

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change the coach..raja's strategy is damn stupid..what for played crossing far and high?!
never see japan play ar? or at least play PES?
we are not strong and got advantage physically..
we asian averagely 160-180cm..
how on earth we gonna fight in air with them (foreigner)?
play short pass, 1-touch, make it accurate and fast..that's how japan,china play..! that's modern football!
and i only see safee played like that..no doubt his decision to play in indon is right..

i just so disappointed with the strategy..player all ok EXCEPT muslim and that sub-striker!
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jul 29 2011, 11:51 AM)
yeah... short passes and triangle. most basics of skills.... come on la... i see safee played that yesterday but it's already too late.
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short pass, through pass..that's where our player lacking of. this is how team with not-physically advantage play football like barca, japan, china, korea.
there's no need to dribble too long (we are not messi or CR), and long pass from def to fwd (safee is not tall like adebayor/torres/drogba/kuyt etc)
long pass only need when u crossing the ball from winger to penalty box.
this is super basic modern football practiced by most of the football team nowadays.

if only gobal play PES or thinking like Gen-X/Y.. sweat.gif
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(ooorait @ Jul 29 2011, 12:04 PM)
wooowww... shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
changing the coach?? no man.. i completely disagree with this.
he have the right to choose the tactics.. he knows better than us. critics got limit dudes..
come on la. sometimes he got the tactics wrong.. and sometimes the players didnt play up to what he planned..

we have the base now.. dont destroy it now..
its like sacking AW from arsenal..
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then raja should re-evaluate his tactical and strategy for upcoming match.
for me, all player has the ability needed, it just raja always use long-ball which is completely not suit with our player.
our pass, our play all are predictable. def -> kunalan/rambut perang(dunno what his name) -> safee OR def -> safee.
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jul 29 2011, 12:11 PM)
well... that one also a lot of people calling for his sacking. hahaah

but u are rite that the coach has the rite to choose the tactics... however... WTF with the long balls ? too many times yesterday we lost out when the ball is in the air. 1-2 step, pass... run... pass... run.... easier said than done? just play patiently and  hold the ball... u can't do shit if u don't have possession... rite?

movement and basic passing are lacking in this team
. strayed passes and long balls.... haih...
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this is what i mean..no point play long-ball if we can't win in the air..
the worst thing is, we use this same tactic and strategy during 1st leg in Singapore last week.. doh.gif
raja just make easy for singapore to read our game..even commentator @ 831 also said that.. doh.gif doh.gif
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post Jul 29 2011, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jul 29 2011, 03:38 PM)
Only u think so..  this is a forum i think his louzy and i think you are more louzy to be even call fan! dumb like u is why we dont progress..balik kampungla!
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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jul 29 2011, 03:40 PM)
Rajagoba said using the other keeper was an experiment.. on a world cup game? LOL! and got trash 5 times u call that the best coach..stupidity has its limit and we saw one today!such fan is why malaysia football is doom!
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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jul 29 2011, 03:48 PM)
Singapore is just a very small country with limited talent.. with bunch of foreingers who are not fighting for the country..
I reckons its a shame what Rajagobal did for that 5 time concede!
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QUOTE(gry @ Jul 29 2011, 03:48 PM)
Kalau dah reti nak guna players sama je, baik tak payah call ups pemain lain. Asyik2 Mahali, Asrar,Muslim,Fadli, Amar. Dah takde orang lain ke. Kita perlukan gol tapi masukkan gurusamy dan masukkan fakri. Ashaari tak pakai, Badrol tak pakai. Yang peliknya, apa yang best pada amar rohidan sampai confirm main setiap game.

Tak payah bagi banyak alasan, coach memang tak buat home work. Ramai lagi deserved main skuad malaysia, JKT, Azuan Roya,Daudsu, Marzuki, Norhafiz, Subra, tapi diorang ni tak dipedulikan oleh coach pasal bagi dia yang terbaik adalah pemain2 pilihannya
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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jul 29 2011, 03:56 PM)
Why you guys is asking a merry go around question?

I said if its just an experiment,
if his only keen on Asian cup
wtf everyone wanted to even watch that game last night ..since its just an experiment.Thats bull shit! he has let the nation down n thats the fact..

Come on..credit where its due its when he lead the team to Asean cup ..well done.. but mistake where its due too.
He cant do 'experiment' in such competition and that is letting the nation down and betray the support..Juz admit is his mistake and responsibility ..correct it and move on!
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QUOTE(gry @ Jul 29 2011, 04:06 PM)
what's wrong with u? it not about selera besar and need to support our neighbour. This is about fact that we lose last nite because of our own mistake. We gave our opinion because we love our national team. Singapore not a good team but we still lose to them?

do u follow malaysia league? how many games that Fakri Saarani was played this season? we lose to taiwan, liverpool,arsenal and singapore (5-1) but still our coach used the same set of players. We need goal last nite but we didnt use our offensive players like ashaari and badrol. I dont know why it hard for coach to use Ashaari or Badrool even though they are amongst best players in our country.
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+9999999 to all above.

Most of forummers (especially with HM avatar) here just can't accept criticism. what yuki and gry said and meant is so true.
No need to compare yesterday game with past performance or achievement. (Why don't u compare with Mokhtar Dahari era?)
I believe we should brain-wash raja first before we can talk bout player. He is the mastermind.
We have to give critics to him when our HM showed poor performance.
It is nothing to do with loyalty to national team. We critics because we love HM!

Takkan kalah pun nak puji? takkan kalah pun tak boleh kritik langsung? Then, trust me, Malaysian football will go nowhere.
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post Jul 29 2011, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jul 29 2011, 05:09 PM)
kritik boleh, tapi kalau sampai nama player pun tak kenal pebenda nye
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apa masalahnya kalau tak kenal nama player? ada kaitan nama dengan strategy? dengan tactical? dengan basic skills? dengan teamwork?
what so important with names? typical malaysian, never see the bigger picture. all small2 things like name too important until all strategy/tactical/basic skill left behind also nvm...this kind of mindset that make our football, nation, even our country not progressive..
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post Jul 29 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jul 29 2011, 05:20 PM)
kalau tak kenal nama player macamana ko nak tahu kemampuan player?

aku nak tanya ko, apa beza rio ferdinand dgn johny evans

sbb ko kenal 2-2..maka ko akan tahu kualiti dia..

paham?
ni ada comment contradict gila.kejap marah safee sali sbb tak geti buat bicycle kick, lepastu kata safee sali main bagus.
ni ape? lawak batistuta ke?
URUGUAY DOES NOT HAVE THE MOST QUALITY PLAYER IN THE RECENT COPA AMERICA, BUT THEY WON THE CUP  #FACT
MALAYSIA DOES NOT HAVE THE MOST QUALITY PLAYER IN THE RECENT AFF CUP, BUT WE WON THE CUP #FACT
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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Jul 29 2011, 05:23 PM)
another prodigy coach... happy.gif

What you said is true...

tp kalau strategy tiptop... nama player tak tau = player punya kemampuan pun tak tau tak guna gak.... so all things important... but first has to know who is the player then info pasal kemampuan player akan ikut... once all of this dah compile... baru boleh plan nak improve player / plan strategy / plan tactic / plan training menu... happy.gif
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QUOTE(hazardcradle @ Jul 29 2011, 05:24 PM)
LOL..kalau dah tak tau nama macam mana ko nak tau dia punya kemampuan..kalau ko bagi skill dan tactical tapi tak kisah player mana buat, baik ko panggil budak milo je main. different player different capabilities la bro. strategy ngan tactical tak jadi gak kalau player tu tak mampu nak buat semua tu.
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guys,apa pentingnya aku tau nama diorg? buat apa aku tau kemampuan dia? bukan aku boleh set strategy pun. bukan aku coach.
raja coach. korg tau nama diorg, tau kemampuan diorg, korang boleh buat apa? nothing right?! doh.gif

and ppls who give their criticism to Raja here hoping taht he admit his fault and improve the team coz HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS HIS PLAYER WELL!

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post Jul 29 2011, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jul 29 2011, 05:33 PM)
Komen ada fakta cam gry post tu amat bagus. Dia menonton liga dan mengetahui potensi pemain pemain di dalam liga, tapi kalau komen yang masuk, terus membantai pemain tanpa kenal siapa mereka dan apa mereka buat, baik tidak perlu.
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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jul 29 2011, 05:37 PM)
ko baca balik apa aku post ni sebelum ko sambung argument ni..aku malas nak discuss argument baru kau kalau ko x jawab argument aku dulu at the first place
ni lah TYPICAL MALAYSIAN (koh koh koh sarcasm mode),
macamana ko nak kritik ABC player ni bagus player tu tak bagus taktik tak kena dan lain lain kalau ko tak tahu pun apa benda ko tgh cakap.
bila <insert name> contradicting himself, it makes me & others confused
BTW u can clearly scroll on this thread where i criticize RG selection on fakri & asrar.
'TYPICAL MALAYSIAN' *sarcasm*
am not saying criticizing is a problem
am just making a statement that BLINDLY CRITICIZING IS A PROBLEM
sorry for my poor english
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ini aku setuju +999999. yang <insert name> contradicting himself tu, mmg dia tersilap la.
aku cuma tak setuju bila kita kritik, ada forumer2 yang bagi reply "wah,bagus u apsal tak apply jadi coach HM?, cakap senang, next HM coach la, bla bla bla..' then when ppl kritik PM Najib, why semua orang yang kritik tu tak apply jadi PM?" is this make sense?
that's kind of reply not helping at all. we shud support each other and please, learn to accept criticsm..
if u guys always think and said, RG can do anything coz he know his player, it's like he got total power/mandate to do anything he like with HM..
for me, he is just our football leader..if no good,then we critics, if not improve..then we vote, it's time to leave..
he shud hear Malaysian voice also as he carry the biggest responsibility of the HM..it is all about maruah..
i think this wouldn't be so damn huge feeling/talking today if we were lose to other asia county which is not our neighbor.period.

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post Jul 30 2011, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jul 30 2011, 10:29 AM)
We lagi pelik with you.. according to your dumb s thinking,everyone who give opinions here have to be a coach in order to give our view or we canot criticize..how much else bodoh a fan like u can be?
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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jul 30 2011, 10:34 AM)
His sarcasm makes him looks completely out of order..
He canot stop people here who still think that is entirely Rajagoba mistakes..
So if im not a coach i cant give my view? sarcasm or not thats a complete idiot way of thinking..

Sack Rajagobal i said!
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+9999999.. this is an open forum..everybody can give his/her own view..we have to learn to accept criticism as well as compliment..no need to fight each other..our mentality has to be changed..

QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Jul 30 2011, 12:40 PM)
'bodoh sombong'?

I've been following the NT/HM since '91 and basically its the same vicious cycles over and over and over and over again. Malaysian != confidence. Once little hope given then the team easily prosper. Too much hope, easily loose against weaker teams.
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+99999999, this is so true.
*bold part* i believe most of forummer here are still young..never know history on early 90's era..like u and me..
this is why i insist of RG shud be sacked, due to it's poor strategy and tactical, not bcoz of our player (the same team won AFF & SEA)..

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