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post Aug 12 2011, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 12 2011, 04:01 PM)
If can get cheaper than here in KL also OK lah. But better make sure it is original, if not somebody's geoduck is gonna end up in his mouth.  whistling.gif
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whose mouth? laugh.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 08:08 PM

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Today just Service my car just changed:

1. lub
2. filter
3. auto transmission oil
4. Belt. (This is the one that cause the tak tak tak sound during my cold start)
5. Clean my Throttle body.
6. Tune my car.

After tune, my car fuel peddle become softer lol. Pickup improve. When start my car, the rpm boost to 2k then come down to 1k.

Lastly the worker told me. "kalau makan minyak datang balik ya" =.=
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post Aug 12 2011, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 12 2011, 09:12 PM)
swift my wife drove one lo doh.gif


Added on August 12, 2011, 8:14 pm

how much u clean the throttle body and tune the car?

xan:where can tune my car oh at KL?
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Rm90 to clean the throttle body. tune is free. LOL
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post Aug 12 2011, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 12 2011, 09:32 PM)

Which sc you went?
Serdang SC?
Sam, your PE can't tune at serdang sc..
I asked the technician already..
The tuning for my batch only  smile.gif
what is throttle body?
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bro i am from melaka la. doh.gif


QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 12 2011, 09:34 PM)
RM90 clean throttle body is ok lo..so bad my PE cant tune one lo sweat.gif wat is ur car mileage nw?
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45k KM tongue.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(roy2005 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:15 PM)
My temperature is always slightly below 90 for my PE, what are you guys readings?
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:34 PM)
after cleaned, performance cantik?
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banyak cantik oh. After he tune lagi cantik. Btw you know how they clean the throttle body? I just share for the one who don know. they take out your air filter box and hose. take out your spark plug and put in 2nd hand one. then one technician sit in the car another one use 3 bond car spray and spray into the throttle head. then the one sit inside keep revving your car. wait until white smoke come out from your exhaust. Then done.

The purpose they use 2nd hand Spark plug is to protect your SP. after the cleaning the 2nd SP head was so black. I asked them why? thy said because the spray will cause the SP the short circuit so better use old SP. over all i am very satisfied with their service. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(miriel10 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:50 PM)
Interesting. Where do you do this? hmm.gif
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GT One auto near Taman Merdeka junction. Behind pasar borong. LOL i go there for every 5k service. laugh.gif
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post Aug 13 2011, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 13 2011, 12:29 AM)
mana ada buat? lepas siap pickup cantik kah?
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they tune my car. got pickup la.

QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Aug 13 2011, 02:18 AM)
Sorry to barge in like that guys, but I just happen to come across this post. Just some clarification note here, I do it for half the price and this is not related to any advertising alright.

Putting a used spark plug in before performing threebond is pointless. I really do not understand how do you 'short circuit' a spark plug, when the function of a spark plug is to PRODUCE SPARK BY SHORT CIRCUITING the positive electrode to the ground, to produce spark.
The black plugs would be a result of carbon residue from the throttle body, intake manifold and intake valves and will clean up over time after a few cycles of the engine running.

I have NEVER faced any problems with these 'shorted plugs' before in my 1000 cars of cleaning smile.gif.

No offense alright guys, just clarification.
Cheerio  thumbup.gif
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oh thanks for the info. The mechanic told me is to protect my own SP. i can see the throttle head are very clean. When they open i saw a dust ring around it. shocking.gif after cleaning all shining already. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 13 2011, 02:30 AM)
It's alrite. As long it's purely for information sharing and not bashing, we're alright with that.

I have very little idea of how the throttle body cleaning process is carried out.. Perhaps the mechanic use his own spark plugs to prevent carbon residue buildup on the client's spark plugs? Maybe he's the perfectionist type of mechanic that wants everything to look clean & shiny before putting back all the bits together? wink.gif What are the effects of carbon residue collecting on the spark plugs anyway?
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They cleaning by revving and spraying the 3 bond spray through the throttle head. They told me it also clean the throttle body.
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post Aug 14 2011, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Aug 14 2011, 12:46 AM)
Hi all, I have a few questions regarding PE. Hopefully experts here can clear my doubt. notworthy.gif

1) If I were to maintain my car's warranty, do I need to send my car to Proton SC for 15k km service (i.e. 25k, 35k etc)? I noticed they cop at the back of my service booklet for my 15k km.

2) Does changing to performance air filter and spark plugs void my car's warranty? How about using own lube (assuming the proton SC allows me to bring own lube)

3) My PE is one of the earliest batch (I bought when it's just launched). One morning I couldn't start my car. After trying a few times (step on gas pedal and let off, then crank), it worked...the rpm was low..and engine chocking like no air. I stepped on the gas pedal and it's OK afterward...but the "check engine" icon on the dashboard lightened up. I drove to an authorized SC immediately and they diagnosed the ECU. They told me to go main Proton SC to upgrade my ECU firmware. Anyone of you faced this problem before?

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1. have to send to SC to maintain your warranty. your warranty cover until 50k. so you have to go back until 50k. If you got extended warranty until 175k provided by alliance insurance then you need to go back to SC until 175k. Service it outside will void your warranty. The booklet can change once it finish. Don worry. laugh.gif

2.No because it is wear and tear item for Air filter and Spark plug. For lub will void warranty. But most of us here don care. Some of us bring our own lub also. Don use cheap lub can already.

3. I am driving Persona not Elegance. Try check your crank sensor and ask them to check your ECU also. PE got ECU bug and need to flash to newer firmware. Go main Proton SC at your state and upgrade. Upgrade time i think is 2hours if no internet break down.

Hope this help you. brows.gif


Added on August 14, 2011, 9:23 am@dorinyeah, my supplier friend said the best price he can give for Castro Magnetec is RM88 each if i buy a carton. A carton got 6 bottles.



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post Aug 14 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 14 2011, 10:31 AM)

Castrol Edge ada?  brows.gif
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sorry bro, for fully syn he only supply mobile and shell one. laugh.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 14 2011, 02:56 PM)
I have made an accidental but great discovery.. Will post it later soon about my finding.. biggrin.gif


Added on August 14, 2011, 1:57 pm
Mobile new brand ah? hahaha..
think so. why? you interest? how much you got out side? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 14 2011, 03:26 PM)
Install mild/street cam lo..slightly higher than normal cam..
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Is it the like adjustable cam pulley? hmm.gif

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 14 2011, 06:59 PM)
Got. The stig la. sweat.gif

But all the powerslides that u see, is genuinely his skills. I knew this cos my fren went to the TG test track when he was studying in UK and saw Jeremy there powersliding a Holden. laugh.gif
252? Of cos need ACP la.. and of cos got improvements la.. sweat.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 14 2011, 07:44 PM)
ACP = adjustable cam pulley sweat.gif

I thought we went thru these abbreviations before? brows.gif Until Nasi Lemak, Char Koay Teow, Tom Yam all came out? brows.gif

Do u know what's a camshaft? hmm.gif A hi/mild/street-cam have slightly different degrees on the lobes that pushes the inlet & exhaust valves as to advance/retard the valve timing.


Added on August 14, 2011, 6:44 pmC'mon & lubricate my camshaft, baby.. brows.gif
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oh that time i din join you all. sweat.gif but cam shaft not cheap. LOL auto change adjustable cam pulley good meh? hmm.gif i tough good for manual only.
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post Aug 14 2011, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 14 2011, 08:08 PM)
Ok.. Ini macam senang kasi lu paham.. sweat.gif

Camshaft = good for manual cars. For auto, might face problems during installation & car might not be able to idle smoothly after installing, & engine may choke all the time.

ACP = Can be used for both manual & auto, but the effects are very minimal unless paired with hi-cams.

Ada paham? sweat.gif
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i see. Then no need to install lo. laugh.gif since camshaft might let the engine hard to idling.
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post Aug 14 2011, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 14 2011, 08:28 PM)
Idle at higher rpm lo. Around 1.2-1.5k RPM. FC also go up. But WHP gains high lo..
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FC goes up! lagi can forget. Gain too high WHP buat also no use. If always drive at city. then your wallet sure gonna vomit blood. tongue.gif
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post Aug 15 2011, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 15 2011, 09:16 PM)
Haha.. Bring RM 50 can d lah. brows.gif
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From Rm50 can gain to RM5000 oh. LOL last time i brought my GF there and it was her 1st time there. So i gave her RM50 to gamble. within 1 hours she earn back Rm800. shocking.gif That 2day 1 night free. LOL
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post Aug 15 2011, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 15 2011, 09:30 PM)
The prob is RM50 also i dont have..

Ok talking bout the discovery i made somewhere around last week...

As we all know that Caltex is very good for high speed driving (above 3.2k RPM) and also gives a very smooth and quiet engine.. smile.gif

Esso gives the best overall balance of power and economy.. The low end torque (below 2.5k RPM) is slightly better than Caltex, giving faster acceleration in traffic jams and slow moving traffic, and better FC than Caltex.. biggrin.gif

Petronas is very good for driving below 2.8k RPM.. With the best FC among all petrol brands, but its low end torque and high end power is lacking compared to the above 2..  hmm.gif

So what I did the other day was I went and mixed 55% Petronas with 45% Caltex.. Voila, I have never got a better town driving FC that that!! My FC was consistently below 8L/100km... Rarely above it.. and on highway cruising at around 120kmh it was only 7.6L/100km.. But the best thing about it is the engine is very very smooth, and the acceleration was the smoothest and the best i ever experienced..  icon_idea.gif

After that i did the same mixture for Esso and Petronas.. Engine was rather smooth but not as smooth as Caltex + petronas, but low end torque was lacking, I had to shift down whenever i wanted to accelerate a bit faster or go up a small hill.. But the FC was even better! I was averaging around 6.4L/100km when travelling a 80kmh.. and in my normal daily routine of going around town and old klang road i got an FC of 7.5L/100km..  shocking.gif

As u all know the best FC i had doh.gif  so far is with Esso and with the same routine im only able to achieve around 8.2-.8.5L/100km at best..

So u all go try it and give some feedback.. See if it suits all car..

Btw the Castrol Edge Sport 0W-40 engine oil is really good.. Even better than Magnatec.. My engine is very quiet and smooth.. The IAFM like issue was gone, so that means its the tappet noise that was actually creating all the havoc under the bonnet. Cold engine start didnt have any problems at all too.. All those standard dashboard rattling is gone and the car now feels very noisy due to wind and tire noise instead of the engine and rattling.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif
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wo that was a good info you have there. Too bad my friend don provide castro edge. Damn only mobil. Dono mobil oil good or not. hmm.gif Just service my car need to wait next service only can try.

how about Eneos lub and Sumo lub? good? Saw got a lot performance shop selling it.
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post Aug 15 2011, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 15 2011, 09:47 PM)
Mobil has quite good review for continental cars.. But not sure if its good for our car..
Eneos quite ok lah.. No bad review.. All good ones so far.. Honda is using Eneos as its approved engine oil..
Sumo also not sure.. The brand is too fresh..
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I see. So how much did you get your castro edge? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 15 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 15 2011, 10:25 PM)
Yup. Get RapidStop.. It will solve the problem.. smile.gif
Most people with B-line and M-line persona will have braking efficiency problem
Dude.. Make sure after 5k you change the engine oil..
The engine oil inside the engine will reduce during first 5k mileage..
Make you keep checking the engine oil level..
Btw, I got good news! New persona will come with 1.6L CPS with turbo  smile.gif
Just adjust the height and dont adjust the left or right
If not, you will regret  smile.gif

btw, this is the photo of engine condition on PE 1year old..
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This is the photo of engine condition on my car 2years old
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you wash your engine regularly? rclxms.gif
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post Aug 15 2011, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 15 2011, 11:56 PM)
brows.gif u say le?
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 12:07 AM)
Abalone lo..brows.gif
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wa big win today oh. laugh.gif LOL upgrade already. So 159 coming? brows.gif

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