its just row and row of houses...not a township developement, there is no pull factors.

dont bother my statement. Just that your defination of township and mine is different.

My bad, I did not study the master plan, just hear say fr friends. It is indeed a township dev.
UFO, u think it's still worth to consider the phase 2? May I know what is the initial price for phase 1?

I studied the corner/ end lot of Temasya Glenmarie, I&P selling very high premium for end/corner lots, no wonder Alam Impian's corner not popular. Usually for investment purpose, intermediate units are easier to let go.

Jet kor, sound like u also vested in Pentas?

the 23 unsold units are all corner/ end lots? or some intermediate?

Can try foreign banks such as Citibank/ UOB and etc, the way they calculate is different from the local banks

so fast launching Pentas 3? i tot they still have some Pentas 2 remain unsold???

In fact i agree with spydermind's comment on building the affordable home, to me, 20x80,22x80,24x80 all are almost the same maybe by 2 ft difference. WHat spydermind means is lacking of affordable home to bring in the crowds, for example Setia Alam, when it was first started, it did not build Duta Villa luxury home, instead, they build many affordable phases of 18x65, 20x65', 20x70', then 22x75', even for the semi d/cluster home, they have 30x55, 34x75, and 40x85 different price range cater for different income group. They also have Eco Park to cater for high end sectors

I was once mentioning abt the INP isnt a township development, and suddenly i got the protest from the AI investors, what i meant is u need to build the infrastructure, town planning, facilities and ammenities 1st to attract ppl to move in. For the case of Setia Alam, from day 1, SP Setia is building different type of schools, such as Sek Kebangsaan, SRJKC, SRJKT (Tamil - perhaps they are the only developer in the world outside INDIA that build tamil school), Tenby international school from the very beginning. Many parents concern abt the kids schooling when it comes to the choice of places to live. Not to mention Setia Alam has Tesco from the 2nd year of VP, and has the longest Pasar Malam in South East Asia (if u can call it commercial), now building the Setia City Mall. This is call township planning.

From what i know abt I&P, is just building row and row of houses, in terms of amenities, developer is more kan cheong in finding a good location for mosque/surau than other facilities. I agree with UFO in the extend that Marketing is very important, that not only including how to sell their products but also how to position themselves as township developer and getting feedback from the customers (ppl like u and me - home stayers or investors).

Maybe we shd not have high expectation in INP, they were only formed in 2009, and 100% owned by PNB, means a GLC. No surprise if it is managed as one of the GLC like telekom and TNB, how u expect these companies to be efficient?

It's a chicken and egg question. I quoted Setia Alam becoz it build amenities 1st. Then it became the center of gravity.
GLC such as Petronas is gifted becoz of the natural resources they hv. U shd compare with other similar petrol company such as Petrol Saudi, for a fair comparison. Or maybe compare Air Asia vs MAS, Public Bank vs Bank Bumiputera. The latter lost big time before it became CIMB.

agree..after SA, this could be a next best things, is the price still RM250psf as claimed by Jet kor?

waht is the sales status of Pentas 2 and 3?

to cater for future populations as the investors said.
build amenties (mosque and islamic school) and then make it a gravity to attract more ppl move in. Seems a good move, and INP know what are their target market/ etnics...

My personal choice, as a non muslim i will try to avoid near mosque, not because of the noice only, also during the prayer time (whole month of Ramadan and during Friday), many cars triple park, quadruple parks, it will affects the traffic, can't move at all, problem to go out or come back to hse, affect the living routine.


The subsales purchasers could be another Muslim or Non Muslim who do not mind the problems that i mentioned earlier. If for own stay, less hassle. If for investment then try to avoid any investment that will limit your potential market/ narrow focus group.

No need to debate abt this issue, we just have different preference.

I am staying in a Taman where my hse is 3km away from the mosque, but the routine is i need to pass-by the said mosque b4 going to the main road, so when the traffic jam happened due to the prayer time, i need to slow down the car, stucked and can't U turn, i can in fact take longer alternative ways but sometimes forget it is Friday or Ramadan Month.

Actually not only cars that coz the jam, also the hawkers outside the mosque selling drinks, ice cream, Nasi campur, pisang goreng, lots of ppl crossing the roads despite red lights, plus the triple/ quadruple parks cars also. A disaster.

No offends to Muslim.
Since it is 1 Malaysia and developer has the intention to attract all etnics to the development, we shd not only building mosque, but also facilities for other religions to reflect our multi racials society.

How many units of Pentas 2 are left? are they bumi allocation units?
Pentas 3 any bumi allocation?

malaysian building society berhad. They are an EPF subsidiary that can receive deposit and giving out loan, not governed by Bank Negara, so not subject to the LTV 70% ruling for 3rd party

landed property is not a 100% recession prove. When recession happens, the locationx3 plays an important role, take example, a mature area like BU/TTDI compared to new area like this Pentas series, which area is better in weather the storm? perhaps you can judge by yourselves.

To me, try to invest within your meant, not to go extend to swapping your credit card, go for MBSB as you no more can get 90% loan and etc.

RM250psf is a good price, the catch is we also need to look at the absolute price of RM850K for Pentas 3, u r looking to sell at min RM1.0mil after 2 years, who will buy a RM1.0mil non gng link house in new untested area in the turbulant and uncertainties time?

Matured area landed is better and more conservative bet to keep your money (as store of value) during the turbulant time, matured area landed prop can have better appreciation opportunity also after the storm.

my conclusion is check the subsales available and compare which offer is better.
End of the day, it's your own money, and you are the only one that liable for your investment. There is no 1 size fits all investment strategy