Not g+g, i think he means consensus for option to form community in the future only ..

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Added on September 17, 2011, 9:42 pmnk bro, you signed?

This post has been edited by 1ullaby: Sep 17 2011, 09:42 PM

Was at the sales office around 11.30am, it is closed. Brought my family for a site. Noticed they used sand bricks for the house, no more red bricks, cost cutting?

Signed, cant remember the content exactly. U remember or not?

I think the lawyer din let me sign leh ..

i'll ask her next time .. good to noe theres such thing tho tnx

Went to the site yesterday and my conclusion is IA really ada potensi. Good place for ownstay or investment.....

Pentas 25'x85' will be BBB......if buying, one need to queue on first come first buy basis or get invitation letter and qualify for balloting? views appreciated.

What I heard last pentas launched before raya was need to register your name on the queue chair on wed morning. This mean next wed morning pls go there register if u interested. Queue on launch date too late.

tx. register on wed and waiting in queue till launch date or come later during launch date? if the former, then it will b impossible for me to camp there in the queue? don;t understand why I&P not using balloting without burdening the prospects...

got ada way other than camping overnight?

Not the lawyer, the inp personnel should given u to signed when they asked u to sign the offer letter before the snp.

I c, thks!

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Added on September 18, 2011, 10:12 amunfortunately thats how it is, actually i&p launch in numerous small launches hence the preference.

perhaps getting (hiring) someone to queue on your behalf? heard from a buyer that for the first few days should be day time queueing only ..
but would be better to assume that queueing might start before wed just to be safe..

This post has been edited by 1ullaby: Sep 18 2011, 10:12 AM

bro, tx for the info.

can pm the hiring contacts for someone that will queue for a fee?

another question - 1 queue number only qualifies for 1 unit..if want to buy 2units, can?

really think G+G acronym is super misleading. Maybe we should say G+G Strata or G+G Indi (Individual)

Consent letter

Hi Jet, there was my observation and understanding of I&P queue based on Pentas previous launch. The staff there will request you to queue after you manage to get a seat number. However, the truth was there was many people did not actually queue, they managed to get back their seat on Sat morning. The fact is your name also will be registered on log book. I&P may want you to come and queue to show that their properties is hot selling. In short, the most important thing for you is to register your name on Wed morning. And came on Sat morning prior 830am. In between the time, you only require to go and chk once a day to make sure nothing chg on your seat.

No such thing of G+G Individual

Types :-
1. G+G - Strata (DMC)
2. F+G - Individual (DMC)
3. F+G - Individual (No DMC)
4. G w/wo normal wire netting - Individual

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Added on September 18, 2011, 1:02 pmIn fact 99% of the new project launch are 1st come 1st basis, I&P never ask us to queue, I disagree with some people blaming the developers too "cruel" asking potential buyers queue like beggar, wat do we expect fr developer? balloting?
It happened in Bdr Kinrara
BK5 4C7 20x70 - 180K (2000) - balloting, some buyers accused developer to defraud or play dirty tricks to call their preferred buyer.
Permai - 380K (2006) - balloting - buyers make noise again
Desiran - 492K (2009) - 1st come 1st basis - Queued 7 days
Sentosa - 462K (2009) - 1st come 1st basis - Queued 11 days (a few late buyers threatening the developer to bring the issue to the Ministry of housing)
Sapphire - 530K (2009) - balloting - buyers make noise again accusing developer scam (tipu)

Note : I know many lucky draw competitions are indeed very dirty.

assuming ;
if Pentas intermediate selling price..
1. 1.0 mil - Queue? - of course no
2. 900K - Queue? - of course no
3. 800K - Queue? - may be for special unit like corner / end lot / facing filed
4. 700K - queue 4 days perviously
5. 600K - queue 10 days perhaps

Look at TTDI Alam Impian previous launching, some buyers already queued 4-5 days ahead, my friends wanted to queue also, I say no need as the price isn't attractive, end up after launching day still plenty of units available.

I would say Pentas is like a New Proton Perdana 2.4 litre selling 75K.
I dun like Proton at all but I will buy still

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Sep 18 2011, 01:17 PM

tx for the tips....

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Added on September 18, 2011, 1:24 pmstill the same for me...balloting is better and less hassle for buyers

queuing is good for developer as they will have enuff time to adjust prices depending on the length of the queue...this may not happen to I&P but i know some developers took advantage of it

This post has been edited by jet2020: Sep 18 2011, 01:24 PM

Many of time developer also dunno there will be a queue, it is very subjective, every house buyer / investor appraise value a property differently, there are also some developers try to goreng theirs' own project by placing false sold stickers, it is not very effective now.
In recent years, buyers are smart enough to judge a property price by many ways...

Balloting is good but not very famous tactics used by developer, if balloting is not successful, then it will tarnish the sale of a certain property. look at I&P BK8 Qaseh launched 2010 Oct in B. Kinrara, there are bout 2000 registrants for the new superlink offer 117 units only, however only less than 40 people turn up for the balloting day, it is very embarrassing during the launch day. The project was stuck since then until lately offer discount to boost up another 10 units, still not encouraging.

The problem is to do with rising in land cost and building material, developer finds harder & harder to build cheap house anymore (I mean landed), developer can only apply balloting system when they are selling 10%-15% lower than mkt value, are they willing to do so??

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Sep 18 2011, 01:54 PM

dev used balloting for projects below mkt value...not true lah. DPC and Setia Alam had switched to balloting sometime ago. So far no complaints heard as long as the process is done fairly and in transparency.

Kenot compare orange to apple....

New house and old house has a gap always, it is very hard to explain as too many variables to determine the intrinsic value of a property.
Many house buyers always hope that developer can quote the new selling price equivalent or lower than the old house (per square feet price), it is impossible (but if it does, then is a gift, better grab )

In any Taman, new house and old house has a significant gap in price, normally the new design will feature better in facade, layout and concept, this will bring additional 10%-50% on to the house price, DPC, Putra Heights, Sg Long, Kinrara are some exmaples.
Invest in new house is in fact invest in TIME, investor buy TIME, new house will be delivered in 24 / 36 mths time, if no major crisis happen, it is likely that property price will rise in accordance to land price and material cost.

If surrounding old phase is trading at RM200/sf, then normally I foresee that a new launch house (better facade and layout) shd possess a 20%-30% more, thus if developer sells anything not more than 15% of the current mkt price (old phase), I think it is still a bargain.

P/s : DPC Mansion is totally different in class, best in location, facade and design, fair value for it is 40% above old phase price (per sf price)

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Sep 18 2011, 02:45 PM

I think so, but those launches are big ler, and they have the whole "sales momentum" thing going on for them. Sudah matang dan berjaya ma.

Perhaps future phases of alam impian it will get an introduction?

starting price about 762k. they are having raya event tomorrow...probably by wed can start to queue...anybody can anticipate the respond?